Ques. for the Authors esp.

[lightsaver]

Is it 'hotter' for you to write about the unattainable lover? OR, is it much more appealing to you (not your potential readers) to write about a love affair or romance that is attainable or in fact real.
Personally, as a non-author and fan of erotic literature, its more appealing for me to read about the what ifs and the have nots, etc. Esp. those longing for more when they know all they can have is a taste - if at all.
Since I am guilty of such, it helps to know I'm not as floopy as I feel (sometimes) for being a part of rather than a whole.

 

[CharleyH]

Is it 'hotter' for you to write about the unattainable lover? OR, is it much more appealing to you (not your potential readers) to write about a love affair or romance that is attainable or in fact real.
Personally, as a non-author and fan of erotic literature, its more appealing for me to read about the what ifs and the have nots, etc. Esp. those longing for more when they know all they can have is a taste - if at all.
Since I am guilty of such, it helps to know I'm not as floopy as I feel (sometimes) for being a part of rather than a whole.

The unattainable cannot be written about (ON LIT) because he/she is unattainable so to write about it would be only a tease for both the writer and reader. It can be written about and written about very well if a Lit author does not mind a Lit score of about 2.5.

However, to answer you - the unattainable is way SO HOT!

I am sorry that I cannot direct you to any good tease stories.

 

[Selena_Kitt]

The unattainable cannot be written about (ON LIT) because he/she is unattainable so to write about it would be only a tease for both the writer and reader. It can be written about and written about very well if a Lit author does not mind a Lit score of about 2.5.

However, to answer you - the unattainable is way SO HOT!

I am sorry that I cannot direct you to any good tease stories.

I disagree. I think the unattainable CAN be written about... and has. Well. Here at Lit. Midnight Confessions by RogueLurker is one such tale...

 

[lightsaver]

Score? 2.5? Yikes, math flashbacks!!
Thank you so much tho, now I am soooo glad I can't write or do math lol

 

[Liar]

Is it 'hotter' for you to write about the unattainable lover? OR, is it much more appealing to you (not your potential readers) to write about a love affair or romance that is attainable or in fact real.
Personally, as a non-author and fan of erotic literature, its more appealing for me to read about the what ifs and the have nots, etc. Esp. those longing for more when they know all they can have is a taste - if at all.
Since I am guilty of such, it helps to know I'm not as floopy as I feel (sometimes) for being a part of rather than a whole.

Can't say that I've ever given much thought as to which is which.

A good story imnsho is a series of what-ifs. What if you take this interresting character, and put her in this interresting situation? What if Bob missed the train? What if they ran out of condoms? What if a buch of ninjas with gold studded laser swords attacked? And the answer to the more mundane can often be much more surprising than the answer to the more outlandish. If that means I write about the attainable, then yeah, that's what I prefer.

 

[CharleyH]

Score? 2.5? Yikes, math flashbacks!!
Thank you so much tho, now I am soooo glad I can't write or do math lol

I am sure you can write and write well. I consider the tease an 'art', but I have yet to read one done really well on Lit (aside from my own). I have tried and I am a good writer. If you do not expect a HOT score, then write, just don't come complaining to me when you don't get a little H!

 

[pop_54]

The unattainable cannot be written about (ON LIT) because he/she is unattainable so to write about it would be only a tease for both the writer and reader. It can be written about and written about very well if a Lit author does not mind a Lit score of about 2.5.

However, to answer you - the unattainable is way SO HOT!

I am sorry that I cannot direct you to any good tease stories.

Oh I don't know Charley... Most of the crap I write is pretty damn unlikely if not downright unattainable... Even total nonsense like Uniboob and my piece of nonsense extracted from a Nano challenge... Both of those have just about hovered above 2.5... Just !!!

I do agree though that it is a suicide road to take here... I like a tease myself

 

[floweringquince]

Is it 'hotter' for you to write about the unattainable lover? OR, is it much more appealing to you (not your potential readers) to write about a love affair or romance that is attainable or in fact real.
Personally, as a non-author and fan of erotic literature, its more appealing for me to read about the what ifs and the have nots, etc. Esp. those longing for more when they know all they can have is a taste - if at all.
Since I am guilty of such, it helps to know I'm not as floopy as I feel (sometimes) for being a part of rather than a whole.

Um, I'm not sure I understand the question...?

Let's say that I have any number of hot wild fantasies about Hugh Laurie (merely a hypothetical, mind you , who is (as far as I know, anyway unattainable to me.


Do you mean:

1) is it hotter for me to write out, as if it had actually happened, my fantasy about showing up on Dr. House's doorstep with a bottle of single-malt scotch and a large box of condoms, and him greeting that gesture with the enthusiasm that I would like to think it deserves; or

2) is it hotter for me to write out what actually happened the time my real live boyfriend (who is not actually sexier-looking than Hugh Laurie, regardless of what I tell him pushed me up against the back of the door the moment we got inside the house, one hand twined into my hair to hold my head still for his ravaging kiss, while the other slid up under the hem of my blouse...


Or do you mean:

3) is it hotter for me to write about how; although Hugh Laurie doesn't know me from a parrot and we are unlikely ever to even meet; I might lie on my bed thinking about his vivid blue eyes and his beautifully formed shoulders and the way his hands move across the piano keys to play a Chopin etude, imagining that his hands are actually moving over me, that the black keys are my nipples, that the white keys are my thighs and my pussy, that Middle C is my clitoris, that he when he depresses a foot pedal a felt-covered hammer pushes against my G-spot, that he has abandoned the etude and now is lifting me onto the grand piano, spreading my legs along the concave curve of the piano lid, driving his cock into my eagerly opened pussy so hard and deep that the piano strings thrum each time he thrusts himself home within me; or

2 +2 = 4) is it hotter for me to write out what actually happened the time my real live boyfriend (whose penis is not actually bigger than the Washington monument, regardless of what I tell him were walking together in some quiet woods, and he started kissing me and caressing my breasts and pressing me up against his growing erection; and then I was on my knees in front of him, half-hidden in bed of ferns, opening my mouth as he opened his jeans...


Well, the first answer is that you can't have Option 2 (or Option 4). I'm not comfortable writing about myself as a recognizable character, and my BF wouldn't be comfortable with me writing about him, either. I may take elements of something that really happened and use them in a story, but it won't be just the way it happened.
(e.g. "Hugh Laurie and a woman who looks a lot like Elle MacPherson but just happens to be me (I look a lot like Elle MacPherson in my fantasies were walking together in some quiet woods...")

Option 1 is what I usually write. I would never have tried Option 3, thinking that it would come out dry and boring ("I want to have sex with someone hot. There's no hot someone in my immediate vincinity who wants to have sex with me.... It's the oldest story in the world."), but it came out much hotter than I had expected.
(It might have been even hotter if I knew anything at all about playing the piano, such as what those foot pedals actually do, or whether there are any Chopin etudes that ever call for Middle C

Between Options 1 and 3, I dunno. The story about me (the imaginary me who looks a lot like Elle MacPherson and Hugh and the Scotch and the big box of condoms could be pretty darned hot, too

- Quince (who has yet to be mistaken for Elle MacPherson

 

[S-Des]

If I'm understanding the question correctly, I write about what is unattainable for me. Maybe some other guy could score the gorgeous stripper, the beautiful but emotionally damaged young woman, or the hottest woman in the night club (right out the back door)...but I couldn't. I think I'm a good guy and have been told I'm attractive, but have never been someone who swept women off their feet (except for a short span when I was a lead metal guitarist with waist-length hair). Maybe if I had more self-confidence or had a better childhood (so I was more comfortable socially), these situations would be attainable. My stories so far have been an average guy finding something extraordinary. Although it happens to some men every day, it never happens to most of them (us).

Writing about an average, every day encounter with your SO could be hot, but it takes more work because the situation isn't as erotic. We all know that the person we have been dating/living with has seen us at our worst, so it loses some of the edginess. You can change the dynamic a hundred different ways, but it's always more work than telling a story about something that will forever be a fantasy to most people.

 

[lightsaver]

I am sure you can write and write well. I consider the tease an 'art', but I have yet to read one done really well on Lit (aside from my own). I have tried and I am a good writer. If you do not expect a HOT score, then write, just don't come complaining to me when you don't get a little H!

True it is an artform. As far as your generous comment on my writing ability....thank you. But uhh, have you seen how well I managed to confuse ppl as to what the point of my question was? Hell, some ppl aren't sure of the question. lmao
And I don't complain, hmmmph!
I pout.
lol

 

[lightsaver]

Um, I'm not sure I understand the question...?

Let's say that I have any number of hot wild fantasies about Hugh Laurie (merely a hypothetical, mind you , who is (as far as I know, anyway unattainable to me.


Do you mean:

1) is it hotter for me to write out, as if it had actually happened, my fantasy about showing up on Dr. House's doorstep with a bottle of single-malt scotch and a large box of condoms, and him greeting that gesture with the enthusiasm that I would like to think it deserves; or

2) is it hotter for me to write out what actually happened the time my real live boyfriend (who is not actually sexier-looking than Hugh Laurie, regardless of what I tell him pushed me up against the back of the door the moment we got inside the house, one hand twined into my hair to hold my head still for his ravaging kiss, while the other slid up under the hem of my blouse...


Or do you mean:

3) is it hotter for me to write about how; although Hugh Laurie doesn't know me from a parrot and we are unlikely ever to even meet; I might lie on my bed thinking about his vivid blue eyes and his beautifully formed shoulders and the way his hands move across the piano keys to play a Chopin etude, imagining that his hands are actually moving over me, that the black keys are my nipples, that the white keys are my thighs and my pussy, that Middle C is my clitoris, that he when he depresses a foot pedal a felt-covered hammer pushes against my G-spot, that he has abandoned the etude and now is lifting me onto the grand piano, spreading my legs along the concave curve of the piano lid, driving his cock into my eagerly opened pussy so hard and deep that the piano strings thrum each time he thrusts himself home within me; or

2 +2 = 4) is it hotter for me to write out what actually happened the time my real live boyfriend (whose penis is not actually bigger than the Washington monument, regardless of what I tell him were walking together in some quiet woods, and he started kissing me and caressing my breasts and pressing me up against his growing erection; and then I was on my knees in front of him, half-hidden in bed of ferns, opening my mouth as he opened his jeans...


Well, the first answer is that you can't have Option 2 (or Option 4). I'm not comfortable writing about myself as a recognizable character, and my BF wouldn't be comfortable with me writing about him, either. I may take elements of something that really happened and use them in a story, but it won't be just the way it happened.
(e.g. "Hugh Laurie and a woman who looks a lot like Elle MacPherson but just happens to be me (I look a lot like Elle MacPherson in my fantasies were walking together in some quiet woods...")

Option 1 is what I usually write. I would never have tried Option 3, thinking that it would come out dry and boring ("I want to have sex with someone hot. There's no hot someone in my immediate vincinity who wants to have sex with me.... It's the oldest story in the world."), but it came out much hotter than I had expected.
(It might have been even hotter if I knew anything at all about playing the piano, such as what those foot pedals actually do, or whether there are any Chopin etudes that ever call for Middle C

Between Options 1 and 3, I dunno. The story about me (the imaginary me who looks a lot like Elle MacPherson and Hugh and the Scotch and the big box of condoms could be pretty darned hot, too

- Quince (who has yet to be mistaken for Elle MacPherson

Sorry can't comment right now. Your thought process about what the hell my thought process may have been or is, has got me distracted. lmao
Thank you for your input. I am thinking on it, you brought up perspectives I had not thought about. Which is wonderful, since I am not a writer but have often wondered what writers get from their work.

 

[lightsaver]

If I'm understanding the question correctly, I write about what is unattainable for me. Maybe some other guy could score the gorgeous stripper, the beautiful but emotionally damaged young woman, or the hottest woman in the night club (right out the back door)...but I couldn't. I think I'm a good guy and have been told I'm attractive, but have never been someone who swept women off their feet (except for a short span when I was a lead metal guitarist with waist-length hair). Maybe if I had more self-confidence or had a better childhood (so I was more comfortable socially), these situations would be attainable. My stories so far have been an average guy finding something extraordinary. Although it happens to some men every day, it never happens to most of them (us).

Writing about an average, every day encounter with your SO could be hot, but it takes more work because the situation isn't as erotic. We all know that the person we have been dating/living with has seen us at our worst, so it loses some of the edginess. You can change the dynamic a hundred different ways, but it's always more work than telling a story about something that will forever be a fantasy to most people.

Ahh ok, gotcha. Thank you.
As a reader, I prefer to read about the unattainable for the reasons you mentioned. Will check out the stories you wrote along with those who were kind enough to respond.

 

[elfin_odalisque]

Isn't it a bit more complicated. I don't know what you mean exactly by 'hot'. If you mean stroke stories then unattainable is a complete no-no, obviously. But if you are talking about erotica then the answer is yes, especially in a short story format.

There are examples on other sites I can't quote because of the rules, but simply, a story that explores the fantasies and desires of a protag to the point of obsession, then leaves them facing rejection in the final resolution works well, here and elsewhere.

The only constraint here is that you probably need to insert an imagined sex scene to keep us all with you.

 

[Vermilion]

Isn't it a bit more complicated. I don't know what you mean exactly by 'hot'. If you mean stroke stories then unattainable is a complete no-no, obviously. But if you are talking about erotica then the answer is yes, especially in a short story format.

There are examples on other sites I can't quote because of the rules, but simply, a story that explores the fantasies and desires of a protag to the point of obsession, then leaves them facing rejection in the final resolution works well, here and elsewhere.

The only constraint here is that you probably need to insert an imagined sex scene to keep us all with you.

I actually did a story about the unattainable... <goes to find link>

Suddenly...

Kind of what you're talking about...
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[gauchecritic]

Looks to me like the question was about fantasy versus reality. Hence the answer would be yes. (...depending on the actual question of course)

It's hotter to read about unlikely events than about mundania. Hence the largest audience on Lit being for incest. ergo sum. j'reste valise. ipso fatso et blimmin secktra.

 

[tanyachrs]

I do my best work when I have someone attainable but not yet attained in mind.

 

[SimonBrooke]

Is it 'hotter' for you to write about the unattainable lover? OR, is it much more appealing to you (not your potential readers) to write about a love affair or romance that is attainable or in fact real.
Personally, as a non-author and fan of erotic literature, its more appealing for me to read about the what ifs and the have nots, etc. Esp. those longing for more when they know all they can have is a taste - if at all.
Since I am guilty of such, it helps to know I'm not as floopy as I feel (sometimes) for being a part of rather than a whole.

I can't speak for other people but for me there is a big disconnect between my sexual fantasies and the stories I write. In my experience sexual fantasies are seriously lacking in plot. So while I do find the erotic stories I write sexy, they're stories. They're deliberately constructed with plots, and the characters are deliberately constructed too; very few of my characters are closely based on actual real people, or even on personal fantasies of mine.

Yes, there is in real life an unattainable person for me, but there is no way I'd ever put her into a story.

 

[SimonBrooke]

j'reste valise.

Je rester ma valise, surely?

 

[Vermilion]

I can't speak for other people but for me there is a big disconnect between my sexual fantasies and the stories I write. In my experience sexual fantasies are seriously lacking in plot. So while I do find the erotic stories I write sexy, they're stories. They're deliberately constructed with plots, and the characters are deliberately constructed too; very few of my characters are closely based on actual real people, or even on personal fantasies of mine.

Yes, there is in real life an unattainable person for me, but there is no way I'd ever put her into a story.

He means me, of course

Have to say that some of my most powerful stories start out as major fantasies. Naturally when starting to write them I find I have to put a bit more detail and plot in or it wouldn't make sense, but you'd be amazed how much detail goes into my fantasies. So much that sometimes I never even get to the sex before reaching the, um... crucial point. The number of times I have got myself off thinking of the perfect dessert, a sexy dress, the right situation... <sigh>
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[gauchecritic]

Je rester ma valise, surely?

Well that's what happens when you try to guess French spelling, construction and just the language in general. (rester and valise come from two song sources and j' because I just happen to remember ma appelle.)

(and where I put the pen of my aunt.)

(and the monkey is on the branch, smoking a pipe and playing the banjo)

(and driving a bus)

 

[floweringquince]

(...where I put the pen of my aunt.)

(and the monkey is on the branch, smoking a pipe and playing the banjo)

(and driving a bus)

Now how can I combine those elements into an erotic story?

- Quince the ever-challenged

 

[lightsaver]

Isn't it a bit more complicated. I don't know what you mean exactly by 'hot'. If you mean stroke stories then unattainable is a complete no-no, obviously. But if you are talking about erotica then the answer is yes, especially in a short story format.

There are examples on other sites I can't quote because of the rules, but simply, a story that explores the fantasies and desires of a protag to the point of obsession, then leaves them facing rejection in the final resolution works well, here and elsewhere.

The only constraint here is that you probably need to insert an imagined sex scene to keep us all with you.

Yes, it certainly is more complicated. I couldn't define 'hot' for anyone, esp. writers who write erotica.. And it's definitely erotica to which I refer. Its always been a question in my head - I know that as a reader I prefer to read about that unattainable lover as I find it much more enticing. So I wondered about the perspectives of the authors. Which is why my question has wiggle room, so to speak. As I have considered it may just boil down to another human sexuality characteristic as per the individual writer and reader.
Thank you for your insight, quite helpful.

 

[lightsaver]

I actually did a story about the unattainable... <goes to find link>

Suddenly...

Kind of what you're talking about...
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Thank you for the link

 

[Seattle Zack]

The question doesn't actually make any sense, except perhaps if you're wondering who you're writing to. An "attainable" lover may be one fantasy, and an "unattainable" vixen might be another.

What do you want to write, might be a better question. Do you want to tantalize your readers with some sort of unending tease, or do you want to climax with lots of exclamation marks? As a writer, the choice is yours.

 

[bluemoonbill]

Unattainable

There is nothing that is unattainable except for that which is considered unattainable............

Everything is possible..................even if in our minds.

Wishing you all outstanding orgasms (and you know it's attainable),

Bill