Putting people to death

[Mike_Yates]

People are like animals. Animals that are born deformed or incapable of living are put down at birth. This should be done for humanitarian reasons for people as well. This would prevent a lot of misery and unhappiness.

 

[Wat_Tyler]

Yes . . . if this were ancient Sparta.

 

[girlsmiley]

People are like animals. Animals that are born deformed or incapable of living are put down at birth. This should be done for humanitarian reasons for people as well. This would prevent a lot of misery and unhappiness.

Are you thinking about sacrificing yourself?

 

[MissMaidenMinx]

Considering once upon a time my son wouldn't have survived his first day, I have to disagree. He is an awesome kid, and yes I'm biassed, but plenty of other people think so too. Some people just need a little more attention and care than others.
I'm sorry your parents didn't give you that care and attention.

 

[Mike_Yates]

Considering once upon a time my son wouldn't have survived his first day, I have to disagree. He is an awesome kid, and yes I'm biassed, but plenty of other people think so too. Some people just need a little more attention and care than others.
I'm sorry your parents didn't give you that care and attention.

Euthenasia of the deformed, disabled, and unfit should be mandatory.

These people go on to lead horribly difficult, miserable, and unhappy lives. It would be much better to have them put down.

You would be doing them a favor.

 

[MissMaidenMinx]

I have to say a hearty fuck you to that.

My son has autism, and is in a class full of wonderful autistic kids. They are all happy and well supported. My son is bright and talented.
Just because your life sucks, don't assume the disabled and "deformed" are miserable. Some of then are very happy and inspirational.

 

[laumar]

People are like animals. Animals that are born deformed or incapable of living are put down at birth. This should be done for humanitarian reasons for people as well. This would prevent a lot of misery and unhappiness.

So would having you put down. Put yourself at the head of the line fuckwit and prevent misery & unhappiness on the GB.


Prick.

 

[Lord_Nibiru]

Takes a hell of a leap in faith to be so arrogant as to not see a place and a future for people with disabilities (of any kind). Theres so much to discover about humanity and the universe around us, indeed what reality actually is.

There is absolutely no justification for putting anyone to death, let alone doing so based on who or what they are born into.

 

[WeedSmoke420]

i agree

 

[Kuran208]

I have to say a hearty fuck you to that.

^

Thinking something so closed minded as that people with disabilities should be taken by euthanasia is one thing. Sharing that with the public is another thing. Telling a father that he'd be better off having his son killed is another thing entirely.

If that is genuinely your belief and not the ranting that comes at the end of a bad day, then I'm sure you'll be happy in the corner of whatever hell you may believe in. The one reserved for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.

I've seen some arrogant, closed-minded things in my short time as a member of this forum, but this takes the cake.

 

[Mike_Yates]

I have an IQ of 89 and I was a special education student. Because of this, going to college or ever having a successful career could be impossible.

 

[MissMaidenMinx]

I have an IQ of 89 and I was a special education student. Because of this, going to college or ever having a successful career could be impossible.

Wah, wah, fucking wah.

Dude, if you wish you had been killed at birth, great, whatever, we don't care. To suggest that anyone with disabilities should be killed at birth is nasty and cruel. Some of the most talented people I know have disabilities. Just because you can't get past your obstacles, doesn't mean others can't.

 

[Mike_Yates]

Wah, wah, fucking wah.

Dude, if you wish you had been killed at birth, great, whatever, we don't care. To suggest that anyone with disabilities should be killed at birth is nasty and cruel. Some of the most talented people I know have disabilities. Just because you can't get past your obstacles, doesn't mean others can't.

People with low intelligence (like myself) are not successful and often lead troubled lives. College is completely out of the question.

Mental disabilities are far worse than any physical disability.

It is very important to note that in order to get a job nowadays, you MUST have at least a bachelors degree from an accredited university. Or else you might be stuck spending the rest of doing menial labor such as washing cars, cleaning toilets, sweeping floors.

For some disadvantaged people, the American dream is simply not possible..

 

[MissMaidenMinx]

People with low intelligence (like myself) are not successful and often lead troubled lives. College is completely out of the question.

Mental disabilities are far worse than any physical disability.

It is very important to note that in order to get a job nowadays, you MUST have at least a bachelors degree from an accredited university. Or else you might be stuck spending the rest of doing menial labor such as washing cars, cleaning toilets, sweeping floors.

For some disadvantaged people, the American dream is simply not possible..

Your biggest problem is not your IQ, it's your defeatist attitude.

 

[Lord_Nibiru]

Although I disagree with Mike's view it makes some sort of sense in this context. The reason for the struggles are neither lack of capability or being defeatest, but society. It is amazing how demoralising unemployment or simply not fitting in is for people, yet almost everyone I know despises their jobs to the point of depression and act completely differently to how they'd like just to fit it. So what's so terrible about being unemployed and not fitting in? Sounds great to me! The valuation the elite have put on us working for sod all in order to provide a more comfortable life for them. That is it.

Instead of taking peoples' lives in order to have a perfect society (otherwise known as fascism), or change society for all to enjoy. Hmm, tough choice. I mean that sincerely, as we'll only choose the former as it's the easy way.

 

[WeedSmoke420]

I have to say a hearty fuck you to that.

My son has autism, and is in a class full of wonderful autistic kids. They are all happy and well supported. My son is bright and talented.
Just because your life sucks, don't assume the disabled and "deformed" are miserable. Some of then are very happy and inspirational.

i got 2 cousins wit the same problem an i love them to death, their such sweethearts too.

 

[MissMaidenMinx]

i got 2 cousins wit the same problem an i love them to death, their such sweethearts too.

Kids with autism, even some adults with autism, don't understand malice and are usually very sweet even if they are generally misunderstood.

 

[HAL_9000]

Mike somehow read about "eugenics".

I doubt that Hitler invented it, but he was all for it.

However, this was before he and the Nazis (or anyone else) knew about the need for genetic variation.

The larger the gene pool, the better. An individual with one minor genetic "flaw" may also be immune to the next pandemic.

Of course the whole field has now "evolved" to the point of custom genetic design. Before birth, of course.

The ethical implications of this have yet to unfold.

 

[KarlC]

 

[Lord_Nibiru]

Mike somehow read about "eugenics".

I doubt that Hitler invented it, but he was all for it.

However, this was before he and the Nazis (or anyone else) knew about the need for genetic variation.

The larger the gene pool, the better. An individual with one minor genetic "flaw" may also be immune to the next pandemic.

Of course the whole field has now "evolved" to the point of custom genetic design. Before birth, of course.

The ethical implications of this have yet to unfold.

Agenda 21 - Eugenics is the core reason for it. It never began with the NAZIs and it certainly didn't die after them.

 

[2981notrohrm]

People are like animals. Animals that are born deformed or incapable of living are put down at birth. This should be done for humanitarian reasons for people as well. This would prevent a lot of misery and unhappiness.

I really, really, really think this is a bad idea, to be as nice as possible about it. Not to sound callous, although I probably will, but if you believe you would have been better off put down at birth, I don't see what's stopping you from taking your own life now. At the very least, it would be your decision, not that of someone who doesn't think you're good enough to live.

I'm not sure where we would define "too sick, too deformed, too disabled, too this, or too that to live." My wife has PCOS, a heart condition, and a "deformed" ankle (surgically repaired, to be exact; it looks normal but for a scar, but it hurts like hell some of the time.) You want to put her down because she's too sick and disabled to live? You'll have to get through me first. And her mother. And my entire church's congregation.

People are perfectly capable of deciding for themselves if they're too sick, deformed, or disabled, or too this or that to live, work, eat bacon, have pets, live on their own, or this or that. And for those who truly can't survive, nature takes care of that on its own, generally speaking (I refer to things such as genetic diseases, progeria, etc. where people tend not to live to the age of maturity, and for that, medical science has come a long way but can only do so much.)

There are some things I don't necessarily approve of - men in their 60s fathering children (I'm looking at you, Elton John and Steve Martin,) or those with serious genetic conditions that could be passed on knowingly passing them on (that's not to say they shouldn't be parents, but in those cases, I would highly encourage adoption,) but would I force individuals to stop these practices? It's unworkable at best. All we can do is educate, educate, educate, and hope for the best. And take care of people. If we take nothing else away from the human experience, it's that we're here to take care of one another. It just doesn't work if we don't.

OK, enough PSA. I violently disagree with you, Mike Yates. That is all.

 

[skate and fuck]

You're treading on thin ice there.

I know a person who should be killed, and probably wont. The guy who shot up the movie theater in CO. He was a genius and supposedly went insane, and now will live a natural life in psych wards. That means the taxdollars of the cpeople who are family of the people he killed are going to pay to keep him alive. Sick.

What they Should do. Chain him up 24hrs a day, naked in downtown denver. Every 2hrs, spray him with a hose for 15mins. Piping hot, but not scalding water. No towel, no nothing. He'll die of exposure and cold before too long, Im from colorado, and I'd be happy if my tax dollars paid the water bill.

 

[Mike_Yates]

I have below-average intelligence and going to college or ever having a successful career or the American dream could prove to be impossible. I was told by my high school psychologist that I have an IQ of ~89, which is inadequate to succeed in college.

 

[MagnumOpus1976]

I have below-average intelligence and going to college or ever having a successful career or the American dream could prove to be impossible. I was told by my high school psychologist that I have an IQ of ~89, which is inadequate to succeed in college.

You should run for senate.

 

[MagnumOpus1976]

I have below-average intelligence and going to college or ever having a successful career or the American dream could prove to be impossible. I was told by my high school psychologist that I have an IQ of ~89, which is inadequate to succeed in college.

Ok, here's my serious reply. Your first mistake is trying to apply a one-size-fits-all definition of "the American dream". Find your peace where you can. This has nothing to do with your career or education unless you make it so.
My Great-Grandfather's idea of the American Dream ended up being an 8th grade education, 7 acres of land in Western Kentucky, a team of mules who never failed him, and a wife and three kids who swore he was the reason the sun came up. I think, maybe, he was more correct than most of us are today.