Public Appreciation for March of the Penguins and Hallmark Channel

[amicus]

http://wip.warnerbros.com/marchofthepenguins/

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/march_of_the_penguins/

And to the entire crew and effort of writers, scriptwriters, directors and crew who filmed this epic on site in the Ant Arctic…

Being the cynic that I am, I expected to tune out early when the politics began. Imagine my surprise to discover not even a subtle hint or innuendo of anything the least bit political.

It was a delightful documentary with minimal narration by Morgan Freeman; the impact mainly visual and visceral.

Good job to all involved!

Amicus…

 

[Trinique_Fire]

 

[Liar]

And to the entire crew and effort of writers, scriptwriters, directors and crew who filmed this epic on site in the Ant Arctic…

Being the cynic that I am, I expected to tune out early when the politics began. Imagine my surprise to discover not even a subtle hint or innuendo of anything the least bit political.

Yep, for the most part, it's not. It's the God Squad creationists that have read too much into it and tried to make it into a political stick to swing about.

 

[TheEarl]

Yep, for the most part, it's not. It's the God Squad creationists that have read too much into it and tried to make it into a political stick to swing about.

Which causes me endless mirth, given that Emperor Penguins often form homosexual bonds and two males will often 'adopt' an abandoned egg, bringing up the chick themselves.

So, if you support penguins, you support gay adoption. <grins>

The Earl

 

[angelicminx]

Very sweet, charming, touching show. I didn't expect to watch it, as I don't watch much television, but my SO put it on and...

Well, it was captivating. I laughed, I cried. An excellent documentary.

 

[HeyNonnyNonny]

There was someone on the radio a few days ago talking about the outstanding box office success of March of the Penguins and of the Passion of the Christ. The analysis, apparently, is that these films were so successful because the fundamentalist/Christian right went to see them, and they are a huge group who virtually never visit the cinema.

He concluded that the best film possible would be one in which a penguin is nailed to a cross.

 

[amicus]

Can't help but be amused or even a little amazed, but not surprised that you did find a way, after all, to read something political into the film.

Although I suggest what you pointed out may be better defined as sociological. Men or women, isolated in military service or incarceration, often turn to each other from the very human need of social interaction.

I would think this says very little politically about homosexuality, but perhaps makes a statement about the human condition. Quite the same with the pair bonding between male and female of the Penguins, they are monogamous for the mating season unless one partner does not survive.

Just as a lifeboat, emergency setting situation, such as the Andes plane crash, consuming human flesh to survive does not place a stamp of approval on cannibalism.

There was another aspect of the film, where the female who lost a Chick, attempted to steal a baby from another female; "...but the group would not permit it to happen...", also made a sociological statement about Penguin behavior, not necessarily a political one.

The reason the 'christian right' doesn't attend movie theatres, and I expand that to include anyone rational with principles, ethics and morals, is because they/we are sick to death of the left wing agenda of gay life styles, promiscuity, enforced gender equality, violence and anti-business, anti-life philosophy expressed in modern films.

Nice try guys...but no sullied Clinton cigars for you.

amicus...

 

[Pure]

i liked the movie. the struggle for life and its continuance was impressive.

 

[Guest]

There was someone on the radio a few days ago talking about the outstanding box office success of March of the Penguins and of the Passion of the Christ. The analysis, apparently, is that these films were so successful because the fundamentalist/Christian right went to see them, and they are a huge group who virtually never visit the cinema.

He concluded that the best film possible would be one in which a penguin is nailed to a cross.

*snicker*

 

[amicus]

Pure]i liked the movie. the struggle for life and its continuance was impressive.[/[/I]QUOTE]

~~~

Mark this up as a rare example of agreement and as perhaps one of the briefest posts ever made.

There is something vague, for me anyway, with '....the struggle for life...' displayed by these creatures, that leaves me a little uneasy.

The trek, seventy miles was repeated several times, from open water to the mating grounds and done only in the fifth year of life, the falling by the wayside of the weak and old; the huddling together, constantly moving toward the center to share body heat to survive...the entire saga, just to produce one Chick between two individuals, seems somewhat inadequate to supply reason for that tremendous and difficult struggle for life and continuance.

There must be more. Perhaps in the five years of open ocean living before mating age is reached contains more of the joyeux de vive that would sustain such an endeavor.

Dunno....was left with an uneasy feeling that there was something beyond my understanding on this.

?

amicus...

 

[Liar]

I'm waiting for the sequel.

http://www.filmjunk.com/spacejunk/wp-content/images/movies/update_farcecast.jpg

 

[TheEarl]

Can't help but be amused or even a little amazed, but not surprised that you did find a way, after all, to read something political into the film.

Although I suggest what you pointed out may be better defined as sociological. Men or women, isolated in military service or incarceration, often turn to each other from the very human need of social interaction.

I would think this says very little politically about homosexuality, but perhaps makes a statement about the human condition. Quite the same with the pair bonding between male and female of the Penguins, they are monogamous for the mating season unless one partner does not survive.

Just as a lifeboat, emergency setting situation, such as the Andes plane crash, consuming human flesh to survive does not place a stamp of approval on cannibalism.

There was another aspect of the film, where the female who lost a Chick, attempted to steal a baby from another female; "...but the group would not permit it to happen...", also made a sociological statement about Penguin behavior, not necessarily a political one.

The reason the 'christian right' doesn't attend movie theatres, and I expand that to include anyone rational with principles, ethics and morals, is because they/we are sick to death of the left wing agenda of gay life styles, promiscuity, enforced gender equality, violence and anti-business, anti-life philosophy expressed in modern films.

Nice try guys...but no sullied Clinton cigars for you.

amicus...

Actually I was reading something political into the Christian Right's over-effusive approval of the film, rather than the film itself.

Nice try though.

The Earl

 

[S-Des]

Actually I was reading something political into the Christian Right's over-effusive approval of the film, rather than the film itself.

Nice try though.

The Earl

Funny, I never heard anything about any particular group's motives (and I usually hear it, pro & con). Ami's assertion about morality is dead on. I'm not taking my 6 year-old daughter to any of the movies that are supposedly "appropriate" for children these days. She loved Penguins (although was very sad when the baby died). When we got out of the theatre, we took the time to talk about how the penguins loved and cared for each other and their offspring. I thought it was very uplifting (although I personally didn't see any religious overtones in that).

I'm always confused why people try to read crap into movies. Personally, I've never given a shit what the director's (or producer's) motivation was. If I like the movie, that's good enough. If I get some deeper message (whether it was accidental or intentional on the film maker's part), that's fine too. I never understood why these messages bothered people (on either side of the spectrum). A movie is someone's vision (just like a story). Of course it will have some of their viewpoints. If they don't agree with mine, so what?

 

[Guest]

Funny, I never heard anything about any particular group's motives (and I usually hear it, pro & con). Ami's assertion about morality is dead on. I'm not taking my 6 year-old daughter to any of the movies that are supposedly "appropriate" for children these days. She loved Penguins (although was very sad when the baby died). When we got out of the theatre, we took the time to talk about how the penguins loved and cared for each other and their offspring. I thought it was very uplifting (although I personally didn't see any religious overtones in that).

I'm always confused why people try to read crap into movies. Personally, I've never given a shit what the director's (or producer's) motivation was. If I like the movie, that's good enough. If I get some deeper message (whether it was accidental or intentional on the film maker's part), that's fine too. I never understood why these messages bothered people (on either side of the spectrum). A movie is someone's vision (just like a story). Of course it will have some of their viewpoints. If they don't agree with mine, so what?

It isn't the fact that there might be an inner message that is disturbing, S-Des. It is that a certain group will seize upon that message and then use it as a tool to bash others.

Let me do some searching on this one. There was some definite buzz after this came out, I remember.

 

[S-Des]

It isn't the fact that there might be an inner message that is disturbing, S-Des. It is that a certain group will seize upon that message and then use it as a tool to bash others.

Let me do some searching on this one. There was some definite buzz after this came out, I remember.

Maybe. I didn't hear any (and I asked my sister who usually hears about it too). Even if there was some group trying to make hay about it, why does it bother anyone? People on every side of every issue do that constantly. When a kid accidently shoots himself (or someone else) anti-gun people are trumpeting it to show how bad guns are. When someone uses one to defend themselves, gun advocates are screaming that they make people safer. Since I am close to neutral on most issues, I get the chance to see both sides do the same thing (people always seem to overlook it when it is in favor of their argument).

My point was just that I don't see why anyone cares. Even if some group tried beating someone over the head...if it wasn't this, it would've been something else. Since you know their motivations already, why let it bother you (not you Sarahh, just anyone who gets upset about these things)? It's a good movie. Idiots aren't going to ruin it for me.

 

[Guest]

Maybe. I didn't hear any (and I asked my sister who usually hears about it too). Even if there was some group trying to make hay about it, why does it bother anyone? People on every side of every issue do that constantly. When a kid accidently shoots himself (or someone else) anti-gun people are trumpeting it to show how bad guns are. When someone uses one to defend themselves, gun advocates are screaming that they make people safer. Since I am close to neutral on most issues, I get the chance to see both sides do the same thing (people always seem to overlook it when it is in favor of their argument).

My point was just that I don't see why anyone cares. Even if some group tried beating someone over the head...if it wasn't this, it would've been something else. Since you know their motivations already, why let it bother you (not you Sarahh, just anyone who gets upset about these things)?

Because it was used politically.

People can believe what they wish, but when a certain group with political ambition bashes, then we should take it seriously.

 

[TheEarl]

My point was just that I don't see why anyone cares. Even if some group tried beating someone over the head...if it wasn't this, it would've been something else. Since you know their motivations already, why let it bother you (not you Sarahh, just anyone who gets upset about these things)? It's a good movie. Idiots aren't going to ruin it for me.

My point was that the group in question attempted to bash people over the head with their message of nuclear families and traditional relationships by pointing out that the penguins did it and, in doing that, actually hoist themselves by their own petard.

However, that point appears to've been wildly misinterpreted by people, so I'll stop trying to make it.

The Earl

 

[amicus]

Your point isn't particularly missed, Earl. As a matter of fact, my interpretation was that evolution, via survival of the fitest, was portrayed far more than any concept of an animal 'nuclear' relationship. Especially since it was stated that the new Chicks were abandoned and left on their own upon reaching the open sea, to never see their parents again.

amicus...

 

[Roxanne Appleby]

I never heard of it until this thread. I generally find penguins boring. Actually, that applies to most nature-fare, although for some odd reason I did enjoy those Marty Stouffer shows a couple decades ago.

 

[S-Des]

My point was that the group in question attempted to bash people over the head with their message of nuclear families and traditional relationships by pointing out that the penguins did it and, in doing that, actually hoist themselves by their own petard.

However, that point appears to've been wildly misinterpreted by people, so I'll stop trying to make it.

The Earl

And V for Vendetta wasn't interperated by some as a shot at the Bush regime? I got your point Earl. I don't disagree that some people use every opportunity to push their agenda. I was just wondering why anyone cared?

Trust me, not trying to pick a fight. You're one of my favorite posters. I'm honestly puzzled why it's a big deal, one way or another. It never is to me (no matter who is doing the talking).

 

[glynndah]

Yikes! How out of touch am I? I saw "March of the Penguins" in the theatre last year and, silly me, I thought it was simply a cool movie about penguins. I didn't realize I was being indoctrinated by that vast right-wing Christian conspiracy. Bible for the Birds, anyone?

 

[TheEarl]

Here's the thread that was started at the time about the politics bullshit, for anyone who missed it.

https://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=370190&highlight=Penguins

The Earl

 

[TheEarl]

Yikes! How out of touch am I? I saw "March of the Penguins" in the theatre last year and, silly me, I thought it was simply a cool movie about penguins. I didn't realize I was being indoctrinated by that vast right-wing Christian conspiracy. Bible for the Birds, anyone?

You missed the point. I wasn't saying anything about the film.

I haven't even seen the film!!

I was making a point over the lunaticChristian people who made a deal about the film promoting their values.

I said nothing about the bloody film!!!

I really hope I'm not this difficult to understand in real life; I thought I was being quite clear.

The Earl

 

[glynndah]

You missed the point. I wasn't saying anything about the film.

I haven't even seen the film!!

I was making a point over the lunaticChristian people who made a deal about the film promoting their values.

I said nothing about the bloody film!!!

I really hope I'm not this difficult to understand in real life; I thought I was being quite clear.

The Earl

Sorry if I offended you in any way. I was trying, obviously without success, to be funny. I did see the movie and thought it was a good one. Believe me, pandering to those idjits who see everything as pro- or anti-
Christian was the last thing on my mind. The Earl, once again, my apologies. .

 

[JamesSD]

I liked March of the Penguins. Cute, a little simplistic, and occasionally as exciting as watching ice melt, but overall, a solid, inoffensive nature documentary.

And yeah, there was nothing political about it. I mean, for pete's sake, penguins only mate long enough to raise a single offspring, then go darting off to mess around with someone else the next year!