Jubal_Harshaw
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Proof positive that nice guys finish last.
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MagicaPractica
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Guess that goes to show we should keep our porn turned down. LOL
Jubal_Harshaw
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Well that's one way of looking at it. I just feel bad for the knight in shining armor who rushed in, sword drawn, to save the fair maiden from the evil sex crazed overlord and instead ends up in the dungeon for causing masterbatus interuptus.MagicaPractica said:
RedHairedandFriendly
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*sighs. . .* snickers . . .* and *sighs again. . .*
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No word on whether or not the neighbor was naked or otherwise exposed . . . Now THAT would have been embarrassing. Not to mention nerve-wracking, considering that he was facing a man wielding a bladed weapon, all the while with his goods hanging out . . .
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You know this has Humor/Satire, Lit story all over it. . .
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No shit . . . where's Jenny? 
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She'd be an excellent one for this.
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But would Harry Dick be the neighbor, or the guy with the sword? Hmm . . .
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Could use the sword, so he's not Hairy.
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RedHairedandFriendly said:Could use the sword, so he's not Hairy.
Or Dick
*ouch*
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*chuckles*slyc_willie said:Or Dick
*ouch*
Wouldn't that be the ultimate trust. . . shaving with a sword? LOL. . .*thinks about bringing one to Chicago. *
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RedHairedandFriendly said:*chuckles*
Hey now . . .
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LMAO. . .Yes? *blinks innocently*slyc_willie said:Hey now . . .
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RedHairedandFriendly said:
Last I checked, a sword was not listed under 'sex toys.'
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I thought that is what some men call it . . . You're bringing yours aren't ya?slyc_willie said:Last I checked, a sword was not listed under 'sex toys.'
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RedHairedandFriendly said:I thought that is what some men call it . . . You're bringing yours aren't ya?
Sure . . . if you've got the sheath
(Couldn't resist)
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My sheath will be slick and ready.slyc_willie said:Sure . . . if you've got the sheath
(Couldn't resist)
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Apparently, the guy was not only wrong. He was TEN HOURS LATE for the rescue!
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Swordsman's claim disputed
Prosecutor says sounds on neighbor's DVD were consensual sex, not rape
By DAVID DOEGE and AMY RINARD
ddoege@journalsentinel.com
Posted: Feb. 21, 2007
Waukesha - The pornographic DVD that was being played in an Oconomowoc apartment doesn't square with a man's claim that he thought he heard a rape in progress before storming into the residence with a sword, a prosecutor said Wednesday.
"Does hearing the sounds of consensual sex under these kinds of circumstances indicate that a crime may have been occurring? Obviously, the Oconomowoc police thought not," Waukesha County Assistant District Attorney Kevin Osborne said.
As for kicking in the door while armed with a sword, Osborne said, "Was that a reasonable response? It's reported that he pounded on the door and kicked it in before the man had a chance to open it. That doesn't appear to have been a reasonable reaction to me."
Osborne said the decision to file the charges against James W. Van Iveren over the Feb. 11 incident primarily boiled down to his reported beliefs and actions being unreasonable.
"If he disagrees, we can take it to trial," Osborne said. "That's why we have trials."
Van Iveren's neighbor, Bret Stieghorst, said Wednesday that he believed Van Iveren was doing what he thought was the right thing in kicking in the door to his apartment and didn't care about the charges that were filed, except damage to property.
"He did kick in my door, so he should get charged with that," said Stieghorst, 33, who works full time and is a student at Waukesha County Technical College. "But he really didn't do anything except what he thought was right. I don't know what I would have done in that situation."
But if Van Iveren was attempting to rescue what he thought was a woman in danger he was "obnoxiously late," said Stieghorst, who said he watched the movie between 1 and 2:30 a.m., but Van Iveren did not burst into his apartment until about 11:30 a.m.
When he told Van Iveren that he was going to call the police, Van Iveren ran out the door of the apartment and down the stairs, and Stieghorst said he followed him. It was only when they got to the bottom of the stairs, and Van Iveren ducked into the door of another apartment, that he realized Van Iveren was his neighbor, he said.
Stieghorst, who said he has lived in his small downtown apartment for five years, said he was watching an adult DVD in Spanish called "Casa de Culo." He said the movie has no screaming that would suggest to someone a woman was in danger.
"It's all in Spanish, and I don't understand a word of it," he said. "I only bought it for the hot chicks."
Van Iveren, 39, of Oconomowoc, was charged by Osborne last week with one count each of criminal trespass while using a dangerous weapon, criminal damage to property while using a dangerous weapon and disorderly conduct while using a dangerous weapon.
Van Iveren told a reporter Tuesday that he distinctly heard a woman screaming while he was listening to music in his first floor apartment on the morning of Feb. 11. When the screams persisted over an extended period, he concluded that a rape was taking place in the apartment above his, so he decided to intervene, according to Van Iveren.
Van Iveren said he grabbed an heirloom sword, raced up a staircase to the apartment above him and kicked in the door, expecting to find a woman being raped. He said he left after the neighbor showed him that he was alone in the apartment.
Osborne said Wednesday that the case was unusual.
"I guess I'd call it a unique set of circumstances," he said.
Osborne said, though, that it would be a mistake to let Van Iveren off the hook merely because he says he was mistaken.
"You can't just make up an excuse for your behavior and expect to avoid consequences," he said.
Stieghorst said the incident will not change his movie-viewing habits.
"No, way; I'm a man and I'm a normal person," he said. "But I think I will get some good headphones, maybe some wireless ones."
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Swordsman's claim disputed
Prosecutor says sounds on neighbor's DVD were consensual sex, not rape
By DAVID DOEGE and AMY RINARD
ddoege@journalsentinel.com
Posted: Feb. 21, 2007
Waukesha - The pornographic DVD that was being played in an Oconomowoc apartment doesn't square with a man's claim that he thought he heard a rape in progress before storming into the residence with a sword, a prosecutor said Wednesday.
"Does hearing the sounds of consensual sex under these kinds of circumstances indicate that a crime may have been occurring? Obviously, the Oconomowoc police thought not," Waukesha County Assistant District Attorney Kevin Osborne said.
As for kicking in the door while armed with a sword, Osborne said, "Was that a reasonable response? It's reported that he pounded on the door and kicked it in before the man had a chance to open it. That doesn't appear to have been a reasonable reaction to me."
Osborne said the decision to file the charges against James W. Van Iveren over the Feb. 11 incident primarily boiled down to his reported beliefs and actions being unreasonable.
"If he disagrees, we can take it to trial," Osborne said. "That's why we have trials."
Van Iveren's neighbor, Bret Stieghorst, said Wednesday that he believed Van Iveren was doing what he thought was the right thing in kicking in the door to his apartment and didn't care about the charges that were filed, except damage to property.
"He did kick in my door, so he should get charged with that," said Stieghorst, 33, who works full time and is a student at Waukesha County Technical College. "But he really didn't do anything except what he thought was right. I don't know what I would have done in that situation."
But if Van Iveren was attempting to rescue what he thought was a woman in danger he was "obnoxiously late," said Stieghorst, who said he watched the movie between 1 and 2:30 a.m., but Van Iveren did not burst into his apartment until about 11:30 a.m.
When he told Van Iveren that he was going to call the police, Van Iveren ran out the door of the apartment and down the stairs, and Stieghorst said he followed him. It was only when they got to the bottom of the stairs, and Van Iveren ducked into the door of another apartment, that he realized Van Iveren was his neighbor, he said.
Stieghorst, who said he has lived in his small downtown apartment for five years, said he was watching an adult DVD in Spanish called "Casa de Culo." He said the movie has no screaming that would suggest to someone a woman was in danger.
"It's all in Spanish, and I don't understand a word of it," he said. "I only bought it for the hot chicks."
Van Iveren, 39, of Oconomowoc, was charged by Osborne last week with one count each of criminal trespass while using a dangerous weapon, criminal damage to property while using a dangerous weapon and disorderly conduct while using a dangerous weapon.
Van Iveren told a reporter Tuesday that he distinctly heard a woman screaming while he was listening to music in his first floor apartment on the morning of Feb. 11. When the screams persisted over an extended period, he concluded that a rape was taking place in the apartment above his, so he decided to intervene, according to Van Iveren.
Van Iveren said he grabbed an heirloom sword, raced up a staircase to the apartment above him and kicked in the door, expecting to find a woman being raped. He said he left after the neighbor showed him that he was alone in the apartment.
Osborne said Wednesday that the case was unusual.
"I guess I'd call it a unique set of circumstances," he said.
Osborne said, though, that it would be a mistake to let Van Iveren off the hook merely because he says he was mistaken.
"You can't just make up an excuse for your behavior and expect to avoid consequences," he said.
Stieghorst said the incident will not change his movie-viewing habits.
"No, way; I'm a man and I'm a normal person," he said. "But I think I will get some good headphones, maybe some wireless ones."
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I think what gets me about this story is the SWORD. Does everyone in Waukesha County have one? If so, Why?
Harry Dick wouldn't touch this with a ten foot pole... Hmmm... on the other hand...
This is not all that much different than Harry beating the hell out of Harry Truman, is it?
Harry Dick wouldn't touch this with a ten foot pole... Hmmm... on the other hand...
This is not all that much different than Harry beating the hell out of Harry Truman, is it?
Jubal_Harshaw
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Well, that's an interesting plot twist. Apparently this nice guy was just fucked up in the head.
My bad.
My bad.
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Jubal_Harshaw said:
Sounds like he may have had a personal beef with the upstairs neighbor. Hmm.
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