Prologue/pre story comment ???

[EnglishRoseFox]

I have my first story up on Lit now and remember reading somewhere about the few lines of text you can put in at the top of your story but when I submitted it I couldn't find out where I did that

I am about to start work on my next story and would very much like to use that facility if someone could tell me how I do that.

I am sorry if this question has been asked lots of times, I promise I'll only ask it once

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[Vermilion]

Two ways, they both work.

a) use the 'comment' box at the bottom. They suggest you use it to thank your editor, but you can make other comments there, like stating that all characters are over the age of consent, or whatever.

b) just write in your comment at the top of your story, enclose it in italics tags <i>text here</i> and do a line of dashes or periods underneath. I've done it in the past and it works fine.

good luck
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[EnglishRoseFox]

Two ways, they both work.

a) use the 'comment' box at the bottom. They suggest you use it to thank your editor, but you can make other comments there, like stating that all characters are over the age of consent, or whatever.

b) just write in your comment at the top of your story, enclose it in italics tags <i>text here</i> and do a line of dashes or periods underneath. I've done it in the past and it works fine.

good luck
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Thanks vermilion, I really appreciate your response

One more question

On the issue of age of consent, will I have to be careful with flashbacks in my story, as some of them involve school days. Will they only throw it out if there are sexual references in the flashbacks or for using it at all?

Thank you in advance x

 

[Vermilion]

Thanks vermilion, I really appreciate your response

One more question

On the issue of age of consent, will I have to be careful with flashbacks in my story, as some of them involve school days. Will they only throw it out if there are sexual references in the flashbacks or for using it at all?

Thank you in advance x

As long as the school age kids are not doing anything sexual in any way, then having flashbacks is OK I believe...
And the disclaimer is always a good idea if there is any doubt whatsoever...
PM if u wanna chat about it
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[Weird Harold]

On the issue of age of consent, will I have to be careful with flashbacks in my story, as some of them involve school days. Will they only throw it out if there are sexual references in the flashbacks or for using it at all?

The rule is no explicit depictions of sex with underage persons involved or present -- that includes flashbacks and character dialogue.

A character can remember having sex before they turned eighteen, and even remember some of the circumstances that led up to it, but they cannot remember/describe the sex itself.

"Losing my virginity at fourteen hurt" is probably acceptable.

"It hurt when he shoved that huge sausage into my tiny hairless pussy" is probably not an acceptable clarification.

A relatively recent change in policy is that you can't depict underage role-play between characters if "the descriptions of underage role-play are indistinguishable from underage sex."

 

[Vermilion]

The rule is no explicit depictions of sex with underage persons involved or present -- that includes flashbacks and character dialogue.

Yeah, but the characters can have sex, then have a flashback to how they first met and the date to the cinema they went to and how they were too scared to hold hands... As long as there's nothing sexual *whilst* they are underage it's fine. I think. Right?

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[oggbashan]

Yeah, but the characters can have sex, then have a flashback to how they first met and the date to the cinema they went to and how they were too scared to hold hands... As long as there's nothing sexual *whilst* they are underage it's fine. I think. Right?

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And they become fully-experienced sex machines as soon as they are eighteen years old.

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[glynndah]

And they become fully-experienced sex machines as soon as they are eighteen years old.

Og

It's one heck of a birthday present, wouldn't you say?

 

[Weird Harold]

Yeah, but the characters can have sex, then have a flashback to how they first met and the date to the cinema they went to and how they were too scared to hold hands... As long as there's nothing sexual *whilst* they are underage it's fine. I think. Right?

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******cter can flashback to the dinner and movie that led to them shacking up for the night in a sleazy motel with their date and losing their virginity. You just have to "fade to black" when the motel room door closes. and have to kind of gloss over the near continuous liplock and groping in the back row of the theater and the fondling and flashing during dinner.

The key word in the restriction is EXPLICIT (or GRAPHIC) depictions. Gratuitious should probably be included; if the flashback doesn't add anything except sexual history, it's probably not necessary and can cause problems with Lit's approval process.

 

[Weird Harold]

It's one heck of a birthday present, wouldn't you say?

Unfortunately, I never got my instant sexual competence and prowess pill when I turned eighteen -- I had to learn by making dumb mistakes the old fashioned way.

 

[sr71plt]

I only post notes in front of a story that relates this story to another on the site that's part of the fabric of a larger story. I find these "This contains no . . . ," "please don't pay attention to . . . ," "hope you enjoy/vote . . ." comments to be weak apologies for something that indicates the author isn't all that sure about something in the story or thought they might not have been clear about something in the contest of the story. And if they aren't fully behind it, I'm not sure why I should read it--and then I usually don't.

 

[EnglishRoseFox]

Thanks for all the advice, I think I have got it correct in my mind and will err on the side of caution I think.

It's a shame because I am by no means advocating anything sleazy or involving children, it was more a naughty masturbatory tale of my convent school days *cough* should I say 'my character's' convent school days, and 'she' was 16 at the time. I appreciate that a line has to be drawn and wholeheartedly support and understand the reasoning behind that, but because the legal age of consent in the UK is 16 and I believe there is no legal age of consent for masturbation ( I'm presuming!!!) it's sometimes frustrating that unless the character is actually 18 you cannot mention it.

I'm probably sticking my neck out here but I do find it bizarre that incest is embraced in the world of erotic fiction here yet sex or masturbation between consenting 17 year olds is taboo?! Maybe it's just me *shrugs*.

From the point of view of the pre-story note, I would not use it as an explanation for anything or want it to be taken as an indication that I am not entirely happy with my submission. I make no excuses for my work

Thanks again to everyone that has contributed x

 

[sr71plt]

I'm probably sticking my neck out here but I do find it bizarre that incest is embraced in the world of erotic fiction here yet sex or masturbation between consenting 17 year olds is taboo?! Maybe it's just me *shrugs*.

It's not a question of "the world of erotic fiction" embracing anything. It's a question of what applicable laws will be enforced by appropriate authories. The Web site is equally liable for anything that is published on its site (with "I didn't know it was there" not being an acceptable excuse). Presuming those behind this site are touchable by U.S. law, there's no "embracing" involved--there's only a healthy and sensible sense of self-preservation.

 

[EnglishRoseFox]

It's not a question of "the world of erotic fiction" embracing anything. It's a question of what applicable laws will be enforced by appropriate authories. The Web site is equally liable for anything that is published on its site (with "I didn't know it was there" not being an acceptable excuse). Presuming those behind this site are touchable by U.S. law, there's no "embracing" involved--there's only a healthy and sensible sense of self-preservation.

Oh no I appreciate that fully. I am just surprised. I know little of US law, but in the UK incest is illegal but sex at 16 is not, that is my only point. I agree that whatever is legal has to be upheld, my surprise is that publication of (what is in the UK) an illegal act (incest) is acceptable here and what is not (sex at 16 in the UK) is not. Just an observation not a criticism

 

[oggbashan]

Oh no I appreciate that fully. I am just surprised. I know little of US law, but in the UK incest is illegal but sex at 16 is not, that is my only point. I agree that whatever is legal has to be upheld, my surprise is that publication of (what is in the UK) an illegal act (incest) is acceptable here and what is not (sex at 16 in the UK) is not. Just an observation not a criticism

But if you publish under-18 erotica on a site that is accessible in the US you personally could be liable for prosecution in the US and could be extradited to the US to answer the charge. The UK government has agreed a one-sided extradition treaty that allows the US to extradite UK citizens to the US to answer charges there EVEN IF THEY HAVE NEVER SET FOOT IN THE US! The US authorities don't have to prove anything in a UK court except that charges have been preferred in a US court. There is no appeal against an extradition request from the US authorities.

Even worse, the US authorities can kidnap you on UK soil or anywhere in the world. Once you are in the US, even if you were brought there by force, you cannot avoid the US court.

Og

 

[EnglishRoseFox]

But if you publish under-18 erotica on a site that is accessible in the US you personally could be liable for prosecution in the US and could be extradited to the US to answer the charge. The UK government has agreed a one-sided extradition treaty that allows the US to extradite UK citizens to the US to answer charges there EVEN IF THEY HAVE NEVER SET FOOT IN THE US! The US authorities don't have to prove anything in a UK court except that charges have been preferred in a US court. There is no appeal against an extradition request from the US authorities.

Even worse, the US authorities can kidnap you on UK soil or anywhere in the world. Once you are in the US, even if you were brought there by force, you cannot avoid the US court.

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I don't think I am making my post very clear in that I am not disputing or challenging any of the above just making an observation. I am not even saying that I WANT to post anything about under 18s, just that it is a funny world we live in where incest is a yes and legal sex is a no. I know why, I'm just saying

I don't think UK Members should be able to post what is legal in our country on this site, of course I don't. I fully agree that rules should be upheld and these are the rules and that it is law, it was, as I think I have reiterated just an observation from a new writer that is surprised by how these things work.

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[oggbashan]

What we need to understand is that there are organised groups in the US that would love to be able to ban all sites that celebrate any form of sexual practices whether between consenting adults or not.

Anyone dealing with adult entertainment in the US has to be very careful to stay within the law because the prudish sharks are circling ready to attack.

Manu and Laurel have decided that nothing happens before the 18th birthday. This is their site and that's their ruling. It helps to defend Literotica from attack.

If we want to write about 16 year-olds having sex in the UK then we can - on a UK-based site but not here.

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[DesertPirate]

Unfortunately, I never got my instant sexual competence and prowess pill when I turned eighteen -- I had to learn by making dumb mistakes the old fashioned way.

Which means you're just like the rest of us