Proclaimed, without proof or evidence

[gotsnowgotslush]

Proclaimed, without proof or evidence

A number of issues, are brought to light, in the public eye.
The legitimate, vetted, and informed press releases information to the public.

Voter restriction has been examined.

Trump Cites Debunked voter Fraud Vigilante to Prove His Latest Conspiracy

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/01/trump-gregg-phillips-voter-fraud-conspiracy

A long campaign to restrict voters has insured that the Democratic voter was locked out in some states. The fear of Trump drove legitimate voters to the polls. Despite the number of blocks to voting, people insisted on persisting. They voted.

Who is Trump trying to convince ?Who is Trump trying to please, by saying 300 million voters were illegal aliens ? What purpose does it serve for Trump?

What purpose does it serve, to say people were put in busses from Massachusetts, to illegally vote in New Hampshire ?

(We do not have an accurate count of how many Trump claimed were sent.)

http://www.wmur.com/article/trump-b...sands-of-illegal-massachusetts-voters/8729704

Trump lost New Hampshire’s four electoral college votes to Hillary Clinton by less than 3,000 votes. He opted not to ask for a statewide recount in New Hampshire, though he could have done so for $500.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/na...raud-claims/fcnMJfLgOx0UAVhJeTS8TP/story.html


Republican Senator Kelly Ayote lost to Democrat Sen. Maggie Hassan by 1,000 votes.

Trump brought up the issue while meeting with 10 senators who were there ostensibly to focus on Supreme Court nominee Neil Gorsuch. Ayotte was in the room because she has signed on with the White House to shepherd Gorsuch through the confirmation process.

gsgs comment- We cannot get an accurate account of wording. Journalists that citizens can trust to be accurate, are locked out of the process. "As soon as the door closed and the reporters allowed to observe for a few minutes had been ushered out,..."

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/trump-voter-fraud-senators-meeting-234909

"...however, the allegation (made by Trump, about voter fraud) was noticed the Federal Elections Commission (FEC). Ellen Weintraub, a George W. Bush appointee to the commission, made a public request for Trump to fess up. Her letter said in part that:

"President Trump has alleged an astonishing voter-fraud scheme [that] would constitute thousands of felony criminal offenses. [And that] democracy rests on the faith of the American people in the integrity of their elections. [...] I therefore call upon President Trump to immediately share his evidence with the public and with the appropriate law-enforcement authorities so that his allegations may be investigated promptly and thoroughly."

https://www.dailykos.com/story/2017...Trump-s-Bluff-Demands-Evidence-Of-Voter-Fraud

We do not have Trump himself, saying the statement ?

Government business, conducted behind closed doors. Where is the voter's participation, if we are not allowed to hear what is said? Dead of night, and decisions are made on our behalf. Are we expected to accept on blind faith? As it is, we were left to guess what was said, after Trump's mouth pieces, and Trump, himself, jumped in to water down a message, and distort the meaning of what was said. Why so many versions of the same statement ? Because Trump needs several versions. Trump must have a shred of lefgitimacy, because the law requires it. Every supporting faction requires a version from Trump.

 

[phrodeau]

What happened to all the poll watchers Trump supposedly recruited? Didn't they notice millions of illegitimate voters?

 

[someoneyouknow]

What happened to all the poll watchers Trump supposedly recruited? Didn't they notice millions of illegitimate voters?

Even worse, Trump himself, his campaign and many others, explicitly cited in their lawsuit in Pennsylvania to stop any vote recount, "There is no evidence -- or even an allegation -- that any tampering with Pennsylvania's voting systems actually occurred."

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/trump-pennsylvania-recount-232103

In Michigan, the judge who stopped the recount stated, "But, to date, Plaintiffs have not presented evidence of tampering or mistake. Instead, they present speculative claims going to the vulnerability of the voting machinery -- but not actual injury," read Goldsmith's order.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/08/politics/michigan-election-recount/index.html

So on one hand they claim there is no evidence of vote fraud yet now are claiming, without any evidence, vote fraud took place.

Seems to me the con artist is trying to have it both ways.

 

[sr71plt]

Oh, but, none of the three-to-five million illegitimate votes were in Pennsylvania--or, conveniently weren't in any of the states where 77,000 votes would have swung the Electoral College to Clinton either. And all of the illegitimate votes were cast for Clinton. Every single one of them. Can you can believe it; Donald Trump wouldn't lie to you and he knows more than all of the electoral officials across the country do.

 

[gotsnowgotslush]

*tip of the hat, to JackLuis

Protesters that are against what Trump does, what Trump has said, and what Trump has planned...

Are accused of being paid to protest!

No proof.
No evidence.



Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) joins Trump in accusing protesters of being paid by someone (who might that he ?).


Speaking to the Deseret News on Friday, the Utah lawmaker stated that the reception he received was “bullying and an attempt at intimidation.

He also expressed his belief that those who showed up at the town hall not only were paid, but also were from out of state.

(They had to move the town hall meeting from a small venue to a larger one, because of R.S.V.P. requests.)

However, a Democratic state representative disputed that claim, saying she believed that most of the thousand attendees in the auditorium were residents of Chaffetz’s district. (Hundreds protested outside of the auditorium since the hall was full.)

http://www.mediaite.com/online/jaso...-attendees-were-paid-to-bully-and-intimidate/


At a town hall in Utah last night, thousands of his constituents turned up to tell him exactly what they thought of his inaction.

“Do your job! Do your job!” the crowd chanted, as Chaffetz trotted out Trump’s favorite excuse.

“You’re not going to like this part: the president, under the law, is exempt from conflict of interest laws,” Chaffetz told the crowd, to loud boos.


https://thinkprogress.org/republica...stance-at-raucous-utah-town-hall-63fa2af0f786

Melissa Batka Thomas, from Salt Lake City, steadied her shaking hands as she read a quote from Chaffetz in which he called on presidential candidates to release their tax returns and "show everything."

"I'm asking you to explain what your timeline is to uphold your word or why there is a reluctance to do so," she said.

The congressman said, as he has before, that the president is "exempt" from conflict of interest laws. "Until there is evidence that [Trump] has somehow overused that to ingratiate his family …" Chaffetz said before boos cut him off.



http://www.sltrib.com/news/4896676-155/crowded-chaffetz-town-hall-meeting-gets-underway

 

[Boxlicker101]

I don't believe there were 300 million illegal voters, but I do believe it's almost a certainty there was some voter or registration fraud. I can't prove it, of course, but I know some illegals have counterfeit or forged documents, and they would be able t use them to register.

And this is not just my opinion: http://www.usnews.com/debate-club/i...raud-is-a-proven-election-manipulation-tactic

I could easily find a lot more examples: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...inds-dozens-ballots-stacked-outside-home.html

 

[Boxlicker101]

Oh, but, none of the three-to-five million illegitimate votes were in Pennsylvania--or, conveniently weren't in any of the states where 77,000 votes would have swung the Electoral College to Clinton either. And all of the illegitimate votes were cast for Clinton. Every single one of them. Can you can believe it; Donald Trump wouldn't lie to you and he knows more than all of the electoral officials across the country do.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-...rat-advocacy-group-pa-allegations-voter-fraud
Why should PA be immune to voter or registration fraud?

 

[gotsnowgotslush]

Thanks to dedicated journalists, that have credentials and educations to match, voters are given Information they can trust.

The United States of America has a few people that are willing to sell out to the highest bidder.

In the olden days, rotten fruit and vegetables were tossed at liars.

Today, people are throwing the lies back in the weasel's faces, and throwing the truth at them, too.

 

[sr71plt]

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-...rat-advocacy-group-pa-allegations-voter-fraud
Why should PA be immune to voter or registration fraud?

Not surprised you can't discern sarcasm when it's written.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

Why would "illegals" risk so much to illegally vote? Did that never occur to you?

Illegal immigrants live in the shadows, terrified of being found. They avoid cops and authorities like the plague.

Explain to me exactly why and how 3 - 6 million of them, as Trump claims, took off a day, a half a day, from whatever menial job they currently have, to stand in line in US government buildings in full view of "authorities" to illegally vote?

I don't even know what the f I have to bring to vote, or even how I'm registered. I just hope when I get there I will be able to. But no, 3 - 6 million, stealthily plot and connive to know ALL the ins and outs of voter ID rolls. They plot and connive, barely knowing English, to scam the DMV. They know every last legal nuance and have gamed the system just so when they show up at the local school or Municipal Building on Election Day KNOWING they will have all the exact forged documents they will need to vote.

Do you know what it takes to uproot yourselves from your birth country and become an illegal resident? What it costs?

So let's get this straight. They're going to leave their families, communities, language, traditions, risk death, poverty, starvation, prison, to make the trip, and after all that, they're going to risk it ALL in order to cast a vote for a Democrat.

Prove it.

Listen to any illegal immigrant, and some have appeared on talk radio shows, and all they say is, the one rule of survival is AVOID AUTHORITIES. But no! It's Election Day! Let's waltz into our local Municipal Building! No one will notice us, coming out in droves! We'll blend right in!

You're a fucking moron.

But but but but I know they did! 3 - 6 million! Voted for Hillary! I know it!

Why would they vote for Democrats, anyway? OBAMA HAS DEPORTED MORE ILLEGALS THAN PRACTICALLY ANY OTHER PRESIDENT. He was called the DEPORTER-IN-CHIEF by Immigrant Support Groups.

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/immigration/article122715474.html

Newly released official figures show that during the first seven years of President Barack Obama’s presidency, more than 2.7 million foreign nationals were deported — the largest number in more than a century.

Figures contained in the 2015 Yearbook of Immigration Statistics, issued in mid-December, show that from the time Obama was inaugurated as America’s first black president on Jan. 20, 2009, through Sept. 30, 2015, a total of 2,749,854 undocumented immigrants were removed from the United States.

That’s a record.

But NO! 3 - 6 million illegals get together at night, after their 16 hour work days at minimum wage, and, after mastering English and the ins and outs of political reporting in the USA, and masterfully analyze the immigrant policies of Obama, Hillary, and Trump, to KNOW Democrats are the ones to vote for. The word is out! It's Hillary!

You are a complete dumb shit, like every Trump Dumb Fuck on the planet. Congratulations.

I don't believe there were 300 million illegal voters, but I do believe it's almost a certainty there was some voter or registration fraud. I can't prove it, of course, but I know some illegals have counterfeit or forged documents, and they would be able t use them to register.

And this is not just my opinion: http://www.usnews.com/debate-club/i...raud-is-a-proven-election-manipulation-tactic

I could easily find a lot more examples: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...inds-dozens-ballots-stacked-outside-home.html