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Iris

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Reading that Deborah thread kind of got me to thinking. I wasn't privy to anything Deborah "did" or didn't do so I don't know and don't really care if it's true or not.

But...how much privacy do you expect on the boards. What would be too much? Your first name? Your location? Or only what you choose to make known? I think the last one would be most people's answer.

As for me, I wouldn't care if someone posted my first name. It's pretty common, so it wouldn't really give anyone any real information about me. If they posted the city I live in, I'd be pretty irked though. Personally I try to limit my individual contact on the net because of past experience so I wouldn't want that given out. What I wouldn't want is someone deciding for me how much privacy I "deserved". Again, not saying Deborah or anyone else has actually done this here, but it's basically what happened to me. The guy I was corresponding with thought since I had started a relationship with him online I didn't "deserve" to just walk away when it wasn't working out because he needed an explanation - which I already thought I gave him. I had given him enough information (which was my fault) for him to find my phone number, and subsequently where I lived. Not a good situation.

How much information is too much for you? Is there any situation where you would try to find someone?
 
This is a rather ominous but necessary thread. Ominous as in 'let that be a warning to you all', but necessary as it answers a point I've seen made now and again about why we don't register with our real names etc.

Thanks for airing this issue Iris. You've answered that question for those too unimaginative to figure it out for themselves. I've put my Location in my profile but it hasn't appeared yet. I'm not too bothered about this as if I want to meet people I go out to pubs and clubs! As for here (or anywhere else online), well I don't use the Internet to hook up with others - certainly not on a physical level, although I have been tempted on occasion.
 
I really believe that if you didnt't want to be known at all, then you wouldn't be here. This is a place where words will be shared, things revealed. Deborah's name is her handle, so nothing was revealed there. If you don't want people to know anything about you, then lie low.
 
I partially agree with you, Myst. You're right in that if I didn't want anything to be known about me, I wouldn't be here. But, just like in real life, I want to be able to limit what is known about me. I have friends I tell everything to, and vise versa. I also have people who are also very close to me that I keep certain things from for various reasons. Some I honestly can't trust to keep certain matters a secret, others might try to "help" when it's not really needed. Other things are personal, and that's that. I wouldn't want anyone I know in the flesh to take it upon themselves to find out something, and I wouldn't want it to happen again online either.
 
If you don't want to be found, don't make info available. But if you do make info available, I believe you're entitled to not have it abused.
 
I absolutely agree, Dixon. If a person desires to be as anonymous as possible then they should make every effort to keep their personal information to themselves. And yes - beyond that - I believe everyone is entitled not to have it abused. And it is the same in "real life"...

If I share some personal information about myself with someone - it is between us and I expect that they will not then publish it in the local newspaper. Likewise I would expect that while someone can find out information about me that it is not their place to do so. I believe most of us prefer not to be under surveillance? Or are there some of you who have invited the FBI to start a file on you?

How many of you have unlisted phone numbers? Would you consider it OK for someone to find out your number and then make it publically available? Maybe even publish it in the very place you had it removed from (the phone book)?

It may not be illegal but I consider it to be unethical to either share information given to me in confidence or to obtain such information and make it generally available.

Privacy is, in my opinion, one of the rights that individuals are entitled to. This concept echoes through much of the beliefs that the United States was founded on - but beyond that it is one of those rights I think we should all ethically and in good conscience extend to each other.
It is unfortunately not inalienable but we should strive to make it so.
 
Hey Dixon, I thought you were a Mensa or some such thing.

Don't you get it?
 
I'm not entirely sure why this is an issue. Our policy is very clear. No personal info is to be posted on the boards. I delete it when it's brought to my attention. I've talked to those who do so, and they have given me their word that they will not do it again.

I can't control what happens outside of this board. If people exchange personal information and bad comes of that, I can't do a thing to stop it. The best advice I can give is to treat people you meet on the Net the same way you'd treat people you'd meet in a bar - as total strangers.

As far as the recent incident, I emailed the author an apology on behalf of myself and Literotica. The email bounced. Whether this is an error on the part of my ISP or not, I don't know. If this author is indeed here, I would appreciate it if he or she would email me so that I can get another address to which to send my apology.

What's a bigger concern to me is the increase in vicious guest posters who troll non-confrontational, well-liked users. I've already lost at least two members because of trolls. This bothers me. I am starting to see a pattern, and I don't like it.

Whoever you are, stop it now. If you want to fight, fight with people who can handle it, and do so under your registered name. But these potshots at people like Tiggs and Lil-Brandi - women who never get on anyone's bad side, who contribute positively to the board - that's fucked IMHO. The recent rash of hostile guest posts bothers me. It's a misuse of a privilege.

Deborah and Madame Pandora and other shit-stirring users can handle these attacks. Not everyone can. Some people have been really, really hurt by this crap. While you obviously get a laugh out of hurting 'nice' people, I don't think it's funny at all.

I hate censorship. I am simply asking you - whoever you are - to act like you have even a small bit of class and stop these kamakaze guest attacks on unsuspecting users. I work too fucking hard to let some a-hole hurt people I like having around.

I'm asking you nicely this time. Please stop, forever.
 
Laurel said:
What's a bigger concern to me is the increase in vicious guest posters who troll non-confrontational, well-liked users. I've already lost at least two members because of trolls. This bothers me. I am starting to see a pattern, and I don't like it.

Whoever you are, stop it now. If you want to fight, fight with people who can handle it, and do so under your registered name. But these potshots at people like Tiggs and Lil-Brandi - women who never get on anyone's bad side, who contribute positively to the board - that's fucked IMHO. The recent rash of hostile guest posts bothers me. It's a misuse of a privilege.

Deborah and Madame Pandora and other shit-stirring users can handle these attacks. Not everyone can. Some people have been really, really hurt by this crap. While you obviously get a laugh out of hurting 'nice' people, I don't think it's funny at all.
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Exactly. This kind of crap has been going on ever since I first joined this board last summer. Those who knew me when I first joined Lit know that I used to stay away from the Gen board because of such incidents. The attacks on Tiggs and Lil-Brandi are just the two more vicious cases of this that I've seen. They never did anything that could warrant such attacks. The only thing they seemed to 'do' was become well known on the board. And now they don't come here much anymore, if at all these days, and that is truly sad.

I've never had much trouble with 'guest' posts myself, but I have had problems with some regular members in the past. The attacks hurt at first, but now I took some advice another board member and just say "fuck it" and moved on. Unfortunatly, some aren't able to do this when they become singled out by someone on the board. Frankly it sickens me when such things happen to anyone here. But, from what I've seen this is going to keep happening for a long time and might never truly end at Lit.
 
Ravenloft

Short, but to the point. That's one of the things I like about you man.

:)
 
Its like my grandma once said...

Whats a good plate with nothing on it...

...No, wait... I fucked up...

Why buy the cow when you get the sex for free...

She used to fucking piss herself though.. And shit herself... Come on Bob, lets get out of this fucking jip joint with this fucking faggot, Dante... The fucking cock smoker.
 
Laurel said:
I'm not entirely sure why this is an issue. Our policy is very clear. No personal info is to be posted on the boards. I delete it when it's brought to my attention. I've talked to those who do so, and they have given me their word that they will not do it again.

I can't control what happens outside of this board. If people exchange personal information and bad comes of that, I can't do a thing to stop it. The best advice I can give is to treat people you meet on the Net the same way you'd treat people you'd meet in a bar - as total strangers.
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Just a footnote to all of this: and how many times have any of us made a big mistake in our choice of who to drink with and *ahem* go home with? And that's with the benefit of physically seeing them, and in some cases actually knowing them to some extent. I agree that this shouldn't be an issue, but like so many recent threads regarding taking 'responsible' measures it's certainly not the 'Internet' that's to blame. Controls, rules etc are in place - but like RL there are always those who flaunt and abuse their privileges. It may be difficult to police such sad and fucked up individuals, it's certainly less difficult (fairly easy in fact for the most part) to take prudent measures to safeguard yourself from aforementioned people. I've had occasions in Chat, for example, where I start out getting to know someone and it didn't take too long until I realised that it wouldn't take a genius to find me once I say where I live, what I do, the places I go out to etc. This would be a scary thought if it wasn't for the fact that I happen to live in what can be a 'scary' place at times; but most places are these days, such is life. I've had occasion to be upset here. The power of language is not to be underestimated; for those who use this power in an aggressively callous manner to the detriment of others here: Go fuck yourself! To everyone else: Make love, not war.
 
Woah there just a second, Laurel. I was bringing the question up out of curiosity and because that other thread started my mind to running, not because of anything that's happened here recently. Maybe my timing was bad, I dunno. I didn't mean to make an "issue" out of anything. Let me apologize if that's not how it was taken.
 
Well?

What's to there to *get* Debs? I just saw a post on a topic. Who's gonna go on the chopping block this time or will it be Patryn again? Since you're such a Bible thumper maybe this sounds familiar: let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
 
Cold up there? How's school? You're a crashing bore.

Hey, I think G.R. posted some new photos. Let's gooooooooo!
 
Dixon Carter Lee said:
Cold up there? How's school? You're a crashing bore.
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Yeah and you're Prince Interesting. I wasn't talking to you I was talking to Deborah unless you're one and the same.

Shows what you know. I graduated from school 4 years ago. You must have the wrong person Debo, err, Dixon. Typical.
 
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