Prince Charles Advice

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ve-world-Charles-urges-environmentalists.html

THE GOOD CITIZEN NEVER LEANS LEFT OR RIGHT; THE GOOD CITIZEN ALWAYS BENDS OVER.

 

[driphoney]

There's a reason Mama's hangin' on like Castro until they drag her lifeless bod out of the palace!

I loved the pic of the students!

 

[Tio_Narratore]

Now there's a good argument against inbreeding. I expect Mama's hoping to outlast Chuck in order to preserve the monarchy.

 

[driphoney]

Now there's a good argument against inbreeding. I expect Mama's hoping to outlast Chuck in order to preserve the monarchy.

Oh yeah.

 

[stephen55]

The prince was speaking to an audience of scholars at the Oxford Center for Islamic Studies - which attempts to encourage a better understanding of the culture and civilization of the religion.

His speech, merging religion with his other favourite subject, the environment, marked the 25th anniversary of the organization, of which he is patron.

He added: 'The inconvenient truth is that we share this planet with the rest of creation for a very good reason - and that is, we cannot exist on our own without the intricately balanced web of life around us.

Prince Charles has been an environmentalist for several decades, starting with his own backyard (he has his own organic farm).

In an hour-long speech, the heir to the throne argued that man's destruction of the world was contrary to the scriptures of all religions - but particularly those of Islam.

He said the current 'division' between man and nature had been caused not just by industrialization, but also by our attitude to the environment - which goes against the grain of 'sacred traditions'.

So, JBJ, you're a gardener....fill us in on how to grow vegetables on a toxic waste dump. Better yet, tell us how you would feel about eating vegetables grown on a toxic waste dump.

If you don't like the idea of eating food grown on a toxic waste dump, then explain why anyone else would.

Prince Charles cleaned up his own backyard. Imagine what would happen if we all did. Imagine what the Gulf would be like right now if BP hadn't fucked up. Perhaps when the oil drifts under the Sunshine Skyway Bridge and heads your way you can scoop up a few barrels and use it for fertilizer.

 

[Tio_Narratore]

The prince was speaking to an audience of scholars at the Oxford Center for Islamic Studies - which attempts to encourage a better understanding of the culture and civilization of the religion.

His speech, merging religion with his other favourite subject, the environment, marked the 25th anniversary of the organization, of which he is patron.

He added: 'The inconvenient truth is that we share this planet with the rest of creation for a very good reason - and that is, we cannot exist on our own without the intricately balanced web of life around us.

Prince Charles has been an environmentalist for several decades, starting with his own backyard (he has his own organic farm).

In an hour-long speech, the heir to the throne argued that man's destruction of the world was contrary to the scriptures of all religions - but particularly those of Islam.

He said the current 'division' between man and nature had been caused not just by industrialization, but also by our attitude to the environment - which goes against the grain of 'sacred traditions'.

So, JBJ, you're a gardener....fill us in on how to grow vegetables on a toxic waste dump. Better yet, tell us how you would feel about eating vegetables grown on a toxic waste dump.

If you don't like the idea of eating food grown on a toxic waste dump, then explain why anyone else would.

Prince Charles cleaned up his own backyard. Imagine what would happen if we all did. Imagine what the Gulf would be like right now if BP hadn't fucked up. Perhaps when the oil drifts under the Sunshine Skyway Bridge and heads your way you can scoop up a few barrels and use it for fertilizer.

Imagine what we would say if we treated dogs as they do in Islamic lands, or if we slaughtered our animals according to halal...

The point isn't our relationship with the environment as much as it is to consider that any of these religions that base themselves on "the bible" view nature as anything other than something made by a "god" for the use of "man." I'm not sure why anyone (except, perhaps, Good Prince Charley) would consider any one of them more in tune with nature than the others.

 

[oggbashan]

Prince Charles is an easy target for the media.

His activities are generally beneficial and the work of The Prince's Trust and the Duchy of Cornwall try to show that there are other ways that don't follow market forces slavishly.

His views on modern architecture are unfortunate in that he condemns the good as well as the bad, but he does stimulate debate about what is "good".

Imagine a lifetime of being Vice-President with no power and no clearly defined role. That is what Prince Charles has had to endure.

His work with the Islamic community in the UK has helped to bridge the gap between a nominally Christian country and the mainstream Islamic groups. That helps to make Muslims happier to be British and more involved with the country. When (if) he succeeds The Queen, he will be Head of a multicultural state that was unimaginable when The Queen succeeded to the throne.

By reaching out to non-Christians in the UK he is following in the footsteps of The Queen, his mother; King George VI, his grandfather; and his great-grandmother Queen Victoria who was criticised for employing Indian Muslim and Hindu advisors.

As Head of the Commonwealth, Her Majesty the Queen has a leadership role for more Muslims than any single Head of State. Even if Prince Charles does not inherit that role from The Queen, he will still have to work with Muslims, Roman Catholics, Hindus, Buddhists, other religions and those who have no religious beliefs while being titular Head of the Church of England. That is an almost impossible mix, yet The Queen has managed it for all her reign.

Og

 

[stephen55]

In this case, the medium is not the message.....

Imagine what we would say if we treated dogs as they do in Islamic lands, or if we slaughtered our animals according to halal...

The point isn't our relationship with the environment as much as it is to consider that any of these religions that base themselves on "the bible" view nature as anything other than something made by a "god" for the use of "man." I'm not sure why anyone (except, perhaps, Good Prince Charley) would consider any one of them more in tune with nature than the others.

I have no use for any religion, particularly Islam or Christianity. It appears to me that the practitioners of religion rarely comply with what their religious books tell them to do. "Thou shall not kill" comes to mind. I'd guess that more blood has been spilled over religious intolerance than any other reason. I could be wrong but if the good books were followed, why would any blood be spilled for religious reasons?

That said, Prince Charles was appealing to what the various good books say about looking after the Earth, not what the practitioners have been doing. He has a long standing concern over environmental issues and was using the 25th anniversary of the Oxford Centre for Islamic Studies to remind us all that mankind's place is in the environment, not apart from it. Various religions say that the Earth was created for man but also that we have a duty to be stewards of the Earth, not mess it up.

I have no problem with what Prince Charles had to say and less of a problem with where he chose to say it. The media loves to portray the guy as some kind of a buffoon but if appealing to humanity to keep our only home clean and healthy makes one a buffoon, I stand beside the guy. In this case, it's the media who are being buffoons, not Prince Charles. If the average media type had half of his smarts, we wouldn't have press reports mocking him for making an environmental appeal, no matter where he chose to make it. We would have an ongoing media campaign to pressure government and industry to stop fucking up the planet.

 

[Tio_Narratore]

I have no use for any religion, particularly Islam or Christianity. It appears to me that the practitioners of religion rarely comply with what their religious books tell them to do. "Thou shall not kill" comes to mind. I'd guess that more blood has been spilled over religious intolerance than any other reason. I could be wrong but if the good books were followed, why would any blood be spilled for religious reasons?

That said, Prince Charles was appealing to what the various good books say about looking after the Earth, not what the practitioners have been doing. He has a long standing concern over environmental issues and was using the 25th anniversary of the Oxford Centre for Islamic Studies to remind us all that mankind's place is in the environment, not apart from it. Various religions say that the Earth was created for man but also that we have a duty to be stewards of the Earth, not mess it up.

I have no problem with what Prince Charles had to say and less of a problem with where he chose to say it. The media loves to portray the guy as some kind of a buffoon but if appealing to humanity to keep our only home clean and healthy makes one a buffoon, I stand beside the guy. In this case, it's the media who are being buffoons, not Prince Charles. If the average media type had half of his smarts, we wouldn't have press reports mocking him for making an environmental appeal, no matter where he chose to make it. We would have an ongoing media campaign to pressure government and industry to stop fucking up the planet.

I was talking about what the "good books" say as well as what their practioners do. "And man shall have dominion over all..."

If you want to find origin myths without a hierarchical use of the earth, try the Cree Wisakajak - the foolish one who made everything and then tried to figure out what the hell it all was...who tricks his brother animals and in turn gets tricked by them...

And no one ever killed somebody else to prove that their belief in Wisakajak was the "true" belief.

Almost makes you agree with John Lennon..."Imagine there's no religion..."

 

[cloudy]

I was talking about what the "good books" say as well as what their practioners do. "And man shall have dominion over all..."

If you want to find origin myths without a hierarchical use of the earth, try the Cree Wisakajak - the foolish one who made everything and then tried to figure out what the hell it all was...who tricks his brother animals and in turn gets tricked by them...

And no one ever killed somebody else to prove that their belief in Wisakajak was the "true" belief.

Almost makes you agree with John Lennon..."Imagine there's no religion..."

"Brother, you say there is but one way to worship and serve the Great Spirit. If there is but one religion, why do you white people differ so much about it? Why not all agreed, as you can all read the Book?" ~ Sogoyewapha, "Red Jacket" - Senaca

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

STEFAN'S religious beliefs are erected atop fear of the dark.

 

[stephen55]

Jimbo's religious beliefs consist of praying to the Tooth Fairy.