Pretty Much What I Figured.

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Several weeks ago we debated the concept of campgrounds for the homeless.

I suggested a large, enclosed area with showers and kitchens and offices to link with social services, etc. But it would be a safe place to be if you found yourself on the street.

Well, the county created such a place in the middle of the county (which is almost all urban). It has shelters and showers and kitchens etc.

Guess who's pissed off about it? The homeless and their advovcates.

The advocates assert homeless people ought to be able to sleep where they please.

 

[somberReality]

I thought beggars couldn't be choosers.

Haha, sorry, couldn't resist.

 

[adetaildiva]

Several weeks ago we debated the concept of campgrounds for the homeless.

I suggested a large, enclosed area with showers and kitchens and offices to link with social services, etc. But it would be a safe place to be if you found yourself on the street.

Well, the county created such a place in the middle of the county (which is almost all urban). It has shelters and showers and kitchens etc.

Guess who's pissed off about it? The homeless and their advovcates.

The advocates assert homeless people ought to be able to sleep where they please.

Maybe it's just me, but there's something wrong with that thought process .....or lack thereof.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Well, it reinforces the belief that safe shelter isnt what's on their agenda.

 

[oggbashan]

We have a shelter in our local city.

Some of the homeless use it sometimes, enough of them that it is almost always nearly full. It never turns people away except if they are aggressive to the staff. There are few rules: no illegal drugs in the premises; no fighting.

However some of the homeless will never use it. They cannot bear to be inside a building, nor to be "forced" to consider other people's needs as well as their own.

Og

 

[sr71plt]

Several weeks ago we debated the concept of campgrounds for the homeless.

I suggested a large, enclosed area with showers and kitchens and offices to link with social services, etc. But it would be a safe place to be if you found yourself on the street.

Well, the county created such a place in the middle of the county (which is almost all urban). It has shelters and showers and kitchens etc.

Guess who's pissed off about it? The homeless and their advovcates.

The advocates assert homeless people ought to be able to sleep where they please.

Well, surprise, rejecting having others choose where you sleep is one of the hallmarks of the habitual homeless lifestyle. Not exactly a news flash.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

OGG

Yep. What you report is typical.

I suspect the idea was to separate the needy from the drug addicts and alcoholics and brawlers. So it will work out okay, in my opinion. Let the derelicts sleep in the woods.

 

[oggbashan]

OGG

Yep. What you report is typical.

I suspect the idea was to separate the needy from the drug addicts and alcoholics and brawlers. So it will work out okay, in my opinion. Let the derelicts sleep in the woods.

Unfortunately for our society, a high proportion of the intentionally homeless are mentally ill. A society that values personal freedoms cannot force them to accept treatment unless they become a danger to others.

A increasing minority of our homeless are also recent veterans. Their homelessness is a symptom of the damage they received fighting for us. Veterans' charities try to assist but some of the vets refuse to accept any help.

Og

 

[Oblimo]

Well, the county created such a place in the middle of the county (which is almost all urban). It has shelters and showers and kitchens etc.

Guess who's pissed off about it? The homeless and their advovcates.

Well, is the plan to involuntarily incarcerate competent people there? That's tricky. Is it a voluntarily usable shelter? Then, from what you described, they'd have to be crazy to protest it, and guess what, a bunch of them possibly are.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

OBLIMO

It's the designated SHELTER if you have no real shelter. It doesnt preclude you from going to any bonafide shelter, but it makes it illegal to sleep on the sidewalk or in the parks or on right of ways, viz., they cant sleep under the overpasses and raise hell legally.