Presidential Pardons For Sale!

RobDownSouth

No Kings
Joined
Apr 13, 2002
Posts
77,678
The big news tonight is that a Federal court unsealed a heavily redacted Dept of Justice lawsuit tonight alleging that presidential pardons were up for sale.

The suit was filed on August 8, 2020 and immediately sealed because, y'know, if might adversely affect the election. A federal judge ordered a show-cause for unsealing after the election and the DOJ said, umm, just keep it sealed pretty-please?

Judge said nope on November 25th and gave the Dept of Justice 5 days to come up with a redacted version for public release....which came out today.

Going to be quite the guessing game over the next few days as to who wanted to buy Trump's pardons.....quite a few convicted Russian money launderers in the Federal corrections system.

Developing......
 
December 1, 2020

There was a partial unsealing in the DC district court involving a bribery for
pardon scheme several months ago. Lots of redaction in the document, and it’s
unclear who was involved other than an attorney acting as an intermediary in
a ‘pay-to-play’ scheme. One element was a lobbying scheme, and then there
was the pay-to-play scheme.

The opinion, entered by Chief Judge Beryl A. Howell on Aug. 28, is tied to an
ongoing investigation that may involve at least two individuals who "acted as
lobbyists to senior White House officials, without complying with the registration
requirement of the Lobbying Disclosure Act… to secure ‘a pardon or reprieve of
sentence for" one individual whose name is redacted.

The investigation also involves an alleged offer by another individual to
“offer a substantial political contribution in exchange for a presidential pardon
or reprieve of sentence.”

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/20...ardon-investigation-involving-the-White-House
 
Please correct me if I am wrong - but isn't a pardon an admission that the person pardoned had committed a crime, otherwise there would be no need for a pardon?

What crime had the poor Thanksgiving Turkey committed?
 
Please correct me if I am wrong - but isn't a pardon an admission that the person pardoned had committed a crime, otherwise there would be no need for a pardon?

What crime had the poor Thanksgiving Turkey committed?

Yep. And normally that crime has to be specified in the pardon documents. Trump's pardons will, of course, dance around that issue, but it would be fun to see what crimes Ivanka and Eric are fingered for. Don Jr., Rudy, and Trump himself have already been identified as crime breakers in court papers.
 
Before going too far on what this particular released (and heavily redacted) documentation of presidential pardons for sale constitutes, although it's common sense that Trump would sell pardons, this one thus far hasn't gone farther in what the nonredacted wording gives than someone wanting a pardon lobbying the White House for one. In what hasn't been redacted, there's no evidence of the White House responding favorably. It may even have been the source of handing the matter over to the DOJ.
 
Decades ago, my father had the task of deciding on recommendations for honours for Civil servants and military personnel. Not bravery awards - that was a different department - but awards for meritorious services above and beyond the normal duties.

The first ones he rejected were from people who had recommended themselves!
 
Wanna take bets on which family member it was?

If there's any justice in the world it'll be Donald junior.

Don't care about incest Barbie, Don't care about Eric, But Donald junior kills elephants. deserves everything he gets.
 
If there's any justice in the world it'll be Donald junior.

Don't care about incest Barbie, Don't care about Eric, But Donald junior kills elephants. deserves everything he gets.

Eric kills elephants too.

The pardon issue on all of them, though, is that there are state investigations on all of them too. A federal pardon isn't going to protect them from those.
 
Back
Top