pregnant woman refused coverage by doctor over marital status, as advanced under TN’s newly enacted Medical Ethics Defense Act—

[butters]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...&cvid=51494f5b72bf4cc79cd7e882ae0d9a04&ei=375

Since April, April, physicians and healthcare providers are legally permitted to refuse treatment on the basis of “religious, moral or ethical beliefs.” Having tried to contact marsha blackburn R-TN to no avail, she finally got through the sen. bill hagerty's (R-TN) office where staff informed her “he’s not obligated to listen to his constituents." wthf!??

A 35-year-old pregnant mother in Tennessee reportedly became the first known case in the state of someone being refused prenatal care by a physician because she was unmarried, Nashville Banner reported Sunday, citing the woman, that the refusal was based on the doctor’s objection to her marital status.

According to the report, the woman, who has been with her partner for 15 years and is already mother to a 13‑year‑old, shared her story at a town hall in Jonesborough, Tennessee, on Thursday.

The woman further said that at around four weeks pregnant, her OB‑GYN reviewed her medical history but then stated they were unwilling to treat her because she wasn’t married and that this conflicted with the physician’s values. The woman was advised to seek care elsewhere.

so a doctor refuses to treat this woman as his patient because she's not married, despite her being pregnant and so is refusing to care for an unborn child. In what fucked up world does that make any kind of moral sense? Jesus should have a word with this fucker, and with those TN senators!

what if she suffered a threatened miscarriage and had no-one willing to try and step up to save the baby before she gets married? It's insane!

 

[butters]

I suppose if you toss this into the mix, too, it's a case of TN under republicans attempting to regress:

https://www.alternet.org/2022/04/tennessee-republicans-eliminate-marriage-age

Bill proposed by gop for new common-law marriages that stipulate NO age limitations. Teen daughter get herself pregnant? Don't worry about being embarrassed in front of the neighbors, just force a wedding and she can even get a doctor to look after her and the babby! win win!

Since the bill eliminates an age requirement for marriage, child advocates believe it opens the door for child sex abuse. This is because, without an age requirement, there is a possibility of child marriages. The move is clearly a step back for the state because the state only signed laws prohibiting the marriage of minors under the age of 17 in 2018. According to The Tennessean, the 2018 bill prohibited anyone under the age of 17 from marrying in Tennessee and anyone under 18 marrying someone four years or more older

Various state representatives have pushed back on the bill, including Rep. Mike Stewart, who said he didn’t understand the motivation behind removing the age requirements. “I don’t think any normal person thinks we shouldn’t have an age requirement for marriage.”
He added the potential increase in sex abuse. “It should not be there as it’s basically a get out of jail free card for people who are basically committing statutory rape—I mean it’s completely ridiculous, so that’s another reason why this terrible bill should be eliminated,” Steward said.

 

[HisArpy]

I'm wondering what part of No shirt, no shoes, no service is so fucking hard for Leftists to understand.

 

[ll74]

Religious objections should not be allowed for physicians.

If you can't treat a.patient, you should switch careers.

The no shirt no shoes analogy is horseshit.

 

[HisArpy]

Religious objections should not be allowed for physicians.

If you can't treat a.patient, you should switch careers.

The no shirt no shoes analogy is horseshit.

As a professional, I can refuse to offer my services to anyone for any reason and I don't have to give the reason when I refuse to offer my services. As a matter of statute, I cannot be ordered to do anything except by my supervising attorney.

It is the same for doctors. ONLY their supervising physician can order them to treat a patient.

But, if they're in private practice, they can refuse for any reason since THEY are the "supervising physician." Thus, no shoes, no shirt, no service is perfectly apt and your opinion on my use of it can be shitcanned as the garbage it is.

OTOH, what is also obvious is that you want to FORCE us to do it despite our statutory protections as well as under our professional and a business prerogatives. This is the underlying problem with ALL Democrats; you believe force is acceptable if done to further your cause.

My response to that is you, and the horse you rode in on, can go get fucked.

 

[ll74]

As a professional, I can refuse to offer my services to anyone for any reason. As a matter of statute, I cannot be ordered to do anything except by my supervising attorney.

It is the same for doctors. ONLY their supervising physician can order them to treat a patient.

But, if they're in private practice, they can refuse for any reason since THEY are the "supervising physician." Thus, no shoes, no shirt, no service is perfectly apt and your opinion on my use of it can be shitcanned as the garbage it is.

OTOH, what is also apt is that you want to FORCE us to do it despite our statutory protections as well as under our professional and a business prerogatives. This is the underlying problem with ALL Democrats; you believe force is acceptable if done to further your cause.

My response to that is you, and the horse you rode in on, can go get fucked.

Religious objections should not be allowed for physicians.

If you can't treat a.patient, you should switch careers.

The no shirt no shoes analogy is horseshit. Your personal story to relate is also horseshit. People rely on doctors for their lives/health. Anybody can get another shitty lawyer.

 

[MindYaBitness]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...&cvid=51494f5b72bf4cc79cd7e882ae0d9a04&ei=375

Since April, April, physicians and healthcare providers are legally permitted to refuse treatment on the basis of “religious, moral or ethical beliefs.” Having tried to contact marsha blackburn R-TN to no avail, she finally got through the sen. bill hagerty's (R-TN) office where staff informed her “he’s not obligated to listen to his constituents." wthf!??





so a doctor refuses to treat this woman as his patient because she's not married, despite her being pregnant and so is refusing to care for an unborn child. In what fucked up world does that make any kind of moral sense? Jesus should have a word with this fucker, and with those TN senators!

what if she suffered a threatened miscarriage and had no-one willing to try and step up to save the baby before she gets married? It's insane!

I understand this when abortion is on the table. I'm dyed in the wool pro-choice, but I wouldn't want a physician to be forced to perform one if they object. However, my guess is that if the doctor is this fundamentalist then s/he's probably pro-life. Why risk the health of a baby because you object at the curcumstances that brought it into existence?

 

[HisArpy]

Religious objections should not be allowed for physicians.

If you can't treat a.patient, you should switch careers.

The no shirt no shoes analogy is horseshit.

Your opinion is garbage. Always was, always will be.

Have a great day.

 

[ll74]

Your opinion is garbage. Always was, always will be.

To you.
Which obviously is really important to me

Have a great day.

You as well

 

[HisArpy]

To you.

Also to the doctors and legislators in Tn, in case you hadn't noticed while you were throwing a temper tantrum that the world wasn't operating the way you fantacise it should.

Which obviously is really important to me

Apparently it is because you can't seem to understand that YOUR OPINION doesn't change anything yet you rant on anyway.

You as well

This would violate most of the applicable sections in Mr. MorningStar's employee handbook.

Not that it applies to me anyway, but I try to keep a low profile here at the Hotel of Eternia.

 

[ll74]

Also to the doctors and legislators in Tn, in case you hadn't noticed while you were throwing a temper tantrum that the world wasn't operating the way you fantacise it should.

Religious objections should not be allowed for physicians.

If you can't treat a.patient, you should switch careers.

Apparently it is because you can't seem to understand that YOUR OPINION doesn't change anything yet you rant on anyway.

I'm not the one misunderstanding that.

This would violate most of the applicable sections in Mr. MorningStar's employee handbook.

Not that it applies to me anyway, but I try to keep a low profile here at the Hotel of Eternia.

How exciting.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

I'm wondering what part of No shirt, no shoes, no service is so fucking hard for Leftists to understand.

Might be that oath that doctors take.

 

[MajorRewrite]

I suppose if you toss this into the mix, too, it's a case of TN under republicans attempting to regress:

https://www.alternet.org/2022/04/tennessee-republicans-eliminate-marriage-age

Bill proposed by gop for new common-law marriages that stipulate NO age limitations. Teen daughter get herself pregnant? Don't worry about being embarrassed in front of the neighbors, just force a wedding and she can even get a doctor to look after her and the babby! win win!

MAGAs are aligning laws with Donnie’s underage preferences.

Weird.

 

[73Seahawks]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...&cvid=51494f5b72bf4cc79cd7e882ae0d9a04&ei=375

Since April, April, physicians and healthcare providers are legally permitted to refuse treatment on the basis of “religious, moral or ethical beliefs.” Having tried to contact marsha blackburn R-TN to no avail, she finally got through the sen. bill hagerty's (R-TN) office where staff informed her “he’s not obligated to listen to his constituents." wthf!??





so a doctor refuses to treat this woman as his patient because she's not married, despite her being pregnant and so is refusing to care for an unborn child. In what fucked up world does that make any kind of moral sense? Jesus should have a word with this fucker, and with those TN senators!

what if she suffered a threatened miscarriage and had no-one willing to try and step up to save the baby before she gets married? It's insane!

So much for the so-called party of Family Values.

 

[HisArpy]

Religious objections should not be allowed for physicians.

If you can't treat a.patient, you should switch careers.


I'm not the one misunderstanding that.


How exciting.

Restating your stupid opinion changes nothing. This is not the law, nor how society functions.

 

[HisArpy]

Might be that oath that doctors take.

Dam, I guess we'll just have to codify that oath.

However, until then...

 

[DeluxAuto]

I'm wondering what part of No shirt, no shoes, no service is so fucking hard for Leftists to understand.

It's not "Leftists" threatening to revoke freedom of the press if the press doesn't flatter the fat orange guy, Derpy.

 

[ll74]

Restating your stupid opinion changes nothing.

I wasn't aiming to change something. I was.aiming to express my position on a policy that I disagree with.

This is not the law

Agreed.

And it's stupid. No one should be denied needed healthcare.

 

[HisArpy]

I wasn't aiming to change something. I was.aiming to express my position on a policy that I disagree with.

Your disagreement is irrelevant. What you're really trying to do is gin up a controversy where none should properly exist.

Agreed.

Wait....

Is that snowflake? There! Right frickin THERE!!! Over by the concierge desk - LOOK!!!

It's a miracle.

Now, will someone call Housekeeping? There's a puddle in the lobby...

 

[ll74]

Your disagreement is irrelevant.

To you. Agreed.

What you're really trying to do is gin up a controversy where none should properly exist.

Nope. Controversy exists when people can't get medical treatment because of religion. I'm not creating something new.

Watch any medical drama to find multiple episodes dealing with the subject matter....going back decades. Even St Elsewhere hit on the topic

Wait....

Is that snowflake? There! Right frickin THERE!!! Over by the concierge desk - LOOK!!!

It's a miracle.

Now, will someone call Housekeeping? There's a puddle in the lobby...

You're really trying hard to denigrate my position. Fun to watch how elaborate you get as you progress in your escalation.

 

[HisArpy]

To you. Agreed.

To society in general. The point being that you're out of step and that's what your major problem has been all along.

Nope. Controversy exists when people can't get medical treatment because of religion. I'm not creating something new.

But you are because this isn't controversial.

You're really trying hard to denigrate my position. Fun to watch how elaborate you get as you progress in your escalation.

dudly, this is Lit. You know, a literary website where all things literary are not only welcome, they're encouraged.

But you go on being a stick in the mud. I'm sure the other Liberal Lit Pigs appreciate your company.

 

[ll74]

To society in general. The point being that you're out of step and that's what your major problem has been all along.

Where do you believe controversy originates?
¯⁠\⁠(⁠°⁠_⁠o⁠)⁠/⁠¯

But you are because this isn't controversial.

Lol....in your self centered world, I doubt controversy does exist....

dudly, this is Lit. You know, a literary website where all things literary are not only welcome, they're encouraged.

And yet you're continuing to tell me that my position is irrelevant. And with every post, your explanation expands

How fun!

But you go on being a stick in the mud. I'm sure the other Liberal Lit Pigs appreciate your company.

Projection is fun

 

[HisArpy]

Where do you believe controversy originates?
¯⁠\⁠(⁠°⁠_⁠o⁠)⁠/⁠¯


Lol....in your self centered world, I doubt controversy does exist....


And yet you're continuing to tell me that my position is irrelevant. And with every post, your explanation expands

How fun!


Projection is fun

I'm not sure why you're trying this trope again. It's never worked for you when you've tried it in the past, so why you're going there again is mind boggling.

But, you do you and we'll keep laffing at you for it.

 

[ll74]

I'm not sure why you're trying this trope again

Expressing my opinion? Because I want to.

. It's never worked for you when you've tried it in the past, so why you're going there again is mind boggling.

Yes, I gather that you don't like my opinion.

But, you do you and we'll keep laffing at you for it.

And you keep telling me how much you don't like it. I do appreciate how you need to o make it a team dislike rather than just expressing your opinion

 

[HisArpy]

Expressing my opinion? Because I want to.


Yes, I gather that you don't like my opinion.


And you keep telling me how much you don't like it. I do appreciate how you need to o make it a team dislike rather than just expressing your opinion

You're still prattling on with teh stupid.