Posting and Publishing

[Nameless_Rose]

Hi there everyone. I was wondering if some of you more experienced, already published authors could answer a question that I've been wondering about for awhile. I was curious as to whether or not publishers will accept the manuscript for a story or novel that has already been published on Literotica. It seems like Lit could be a useful tool to evaluate how well a story will be received, but will publishers consider the material published already and refuse to buy it? Any insights would be greatly appreciated.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

The problem with LITEROTICA is readers steal stories and claim them as their own. Publishers who pay a nickle a word dont wanna get in the middle of a copyright fight.

 

[sr71plt]

Nearly all of my stories posted here have been republished by a royalty-paying publisher at least once. Erotica operates on a different track from other areas of publishing, I've found. You will encounter publishers who won't republish a story that's appeared on LIterotica (note "republish," as when it posts on Literotica, it's been published)--but you will find many more who will without qualm. In contrast to what JBJ posted, I don't think most erotica publishers understand copyright at all, let alone are scared by it.

(JBJ can't comment from experience on what happens to anything posted at Literotica. He has nothing posted to Literotica.)

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Mister Softee is right. The publishers he references are as common as cockroaches, just dont count on your royalty check to pay the rent. Real brick & mortar publishers wont likely fool with your re-print.

 

[Nameless_Rose]

Thanks for the answers. I haven't published anything as of yet but I've been shopping around for publishers for awhile now and I wasn't really hoping to get into any of the big ones, at least not at first. I know competition is pretty intense. It's good to know that a publisher may or may not re-publish my story if it is already posted on literotica. I'll have to look in the submission guidelines for the publishers I'm considering to make sure that they will accept an already published manuscript. Thanks again for the answers.

 

[sr71plt]

"Real brick & mortar publishers wont likely fool with your re-print."


Red brick & mortar publishers publish pracitically nothing in the realm of erotica at all.


This is pretty much an e-book industry.

(And JBJ shows no evidence he knows anything about publishing in any form of the industry--because there's no evidence he's ever had anything published.)

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Mister Softee

Like you hiding behind a nic is some kind of proof for your claims. You say youre a butcher, baker, candlestick maker...but who really knows who you are?

 

[sr71plt]

Mister Softee

Like you hiding behind a nic is some kind of proof for your claims. You say youre a butcher, baker, candlestick maker...but who really knows who you are?

For my erotica writings, there's no hiding behind a nic, JBJ. Just go to the story file here and/or go to "eXcessica" as indexed at the bottom of this screen--or click on the Web site button down there. Don't have to know who I really am and what I write/publish in the mainstream to check out my erotica writing/publishing credentials.

Or yours, for that matter.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Mister Softee

Sure.

 

[sr71plt]

It's a miracle you can say that through the egg on your face. No, wait, you've had a lot of practice with that.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Mister Softee

I like eggs. They have lotsa cholesterol that makes my libido turgid and manly.

 

[sr71plt]

Yeah, turgid. I'd stick with turgid, if I were you.

 

[michchick98]

Thanks for the answers. I haven't published anything as of yet but I've been shopping around for publishers for awhile now and I wasn't really hoping to get into any of the big ones, at least not at first. I know competition is pretty intense. It's good to know that a publisher may or may not re-publish my story if it is already posted on literotica. I'll have to look in the submission guidelines for the publishers I'm considering to make sure that they will accept an already published manuscript. Thanks again for the answers.

I looked around for a few and unless I'm mistaken, eXcessica is the only one I'm aware of that doesn't require exclusive rights to your work. In other words, you can leave it up on Lit if you so desire, or take it down.

Last I checked, Phaze was exclusive, which means you'd definitely have to pull your work.

I'm published through eXcessica and as I said, Selena (Selena Kitt owns/runs eXcessica) doesn't require exclusive rights. But once I decide to send a story to her for publication, I pull it from Lit, simply because if I expect to make even a small amount of money, I don't want to leave it up for people to read for free.

Although, I do believe Selena has mentioned in the past that only a small percentage of Lit readers buy the e-books through places like eXcessica and Fictionwise. She'd be able to clarify that better than I would.

And as JBJ said, don't expect it to pay the rent, but it does help to have a bit of extra money coming in every few months.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Yeah, turgid. I'd stick with turgid, if I were you.

I insist on adding 'pulsing' to the turgidity.

 

[Nameless_Rose]

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[Nameless_Rose]

I looked around for a few and unless I'm mistaken, eXcessica is the only one I'm aware of that doesn't require exclusive rights to your work. In other words, you can leave it up on Lit if you so desire, or take it down.

Last I checked, Phaze was exclusive, which means you'd definitely have to pull your work.

I'm published through eXcessica and as I said, Selena (Selena Kitt owns/runs eXcessica) doesn't require exclusive rights. But once I decide to send a story to her for publication, I pull it from Lit, simply because if I expect to make even a small amount of money, I don't want to leave it up for people to read for free.

Although, I do believe Selena has mentioned in the past that only a small percentage of Lit readers buy the e-books through places like eXcessica and Fictionwise. She'd be able to clarify that better than I would.

And as JBJ said, don't expect it to pay the rent, but it does help to have a bit of extra money coming in every few months.

Thanks for the info. I was planning on pulling my whatever story I decide to send in if/when it gets published because as a consumer I myself wouldn't want to buy something which is already availible for free. I was just curious as to whether or not a publisher would reject a manuscript if it had once been published on Literotica.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

Thanks for the info. I was planning on pulling my whatever story I decide to send in if/when it gets published because as a consumer I myself wouldn't want to buy something which is already availible for free. I was just curious as to whether or not a publisher would reject a manuscript if it had once been published on Literotica.

I have actually left two of mine up here at Lit. except for the last chapter which you can buy with the rest of the chapters in an ebook over at eXcessica.com

Get 'em hooked here then tell them in order to read the final chapter you'll have to buy the whole book over on eXcessica. Pretty sneaky, uh.

Shut up JBJ you wanker!

 

[Nameless_Rose]

I have actually left two of mine up here at Lit. except for the last chapter which you can buy with the rest of the chapters in an ebook over at eXcessica.com

Get 'em hooked here then tell them in order to read the final chapter you'll have to buy the whole book over on eXcessica. Pretty sneaky, uh.

Shut up JBJ you wanker!

Hmm good idea. I didn't even think about that.

 

[sr71plt]

As I am sure a lot of other authors are encountering, I get comments asking for further parts of a story here at Lit. that I considered finished. Since I started publishing at eXcessica, I've taken some of these and reformed them into a larger work and published them at eXcessica (and not expanded them here). Then I just tell those requesting "more" on those that the expansion is in an e-book from eXcessica.

I'm not pulling any of my stories here (except for a few I reworked for the mainstream and took the steam out of them). But I'm now in the mode of not posting anything here that hasn't been published through eXcessica already and gone through its current publicity cycle there.

By the way, some Web sites pay for stories; you don't have to take everything to a publisher. I've had three sites pay for what I already have here (and didn't pull).

 

[slyc_willie]

The SO and I -- we both publish on Lit and have ebooks and paperbacks for sale through eXcessica -- pretty much see Literotica as a 'proving ground' for our works. What we publish here is usually the first draft, the raw form of a story (or stories) which eventually become polished and submitted for publication. That's not to say our stories are of lesser quality on Lit, but the intent of publishing is to produce an inventive work that others would enjoy free and clear of the typical mistakes a writer makes.

As some have said, withdrawing a story from Lit is often a must when publishing through most of the ebook sites out there. I'm happy to say that eXcessica does not require this. All of my titles available through eXcessica are still posted on Lit . . . but the versions offered here have not benefited from extensive editing. So, while the same story can be read here on Lit, it's not the same version that is up for sale.

Oh, and despite what JBJ claims, our publications through eXcessica have actually paid for bills, vacations, and been funneled into a savings account for our daughter. We may not be best-selling authors, but we do pretty well.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

SLICK makes the two-headed snake fallacy once again: He saw a two-headed snake once and thats proof two-headed snakes are more common than the regular kind.

 

[KarennaC]

I have two stories published through Excessica. I chose to pull one of them from Lit. The other one, I believe, is still up. Both stories were revised and slightly expanded before I sent them to Excessica. (Yeah, my sig line says the stories are "coming soon." They're available, I'm just not good at remembering to update my sig.)

Although I can't recall the names offhand, I have encountered a couple of e-publishers who said they wouldn't consider a story that had been posted on Lit. Others seem willing to consider said stories if they've been revised and edited to the publisher's standards, and if the story is no longer posted. I have a few Lit stories that I've already pulled preparatory to expanding them for e-publication, though if my muse keeps sending me new ideas I may never get to those stories. lol. But if I ever do, at least they're no longer posted on Lit, so there wouldn't be a problem with exclusivity.