Porn sites must age-verify British users starting July 15

[Privates1stClass]

This may be old news, but I just found it today. I'm wondering how they will identify the person behind the keyboard? Undoubtedly, there will be those who will get around the ban somehow.

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy...lacklists-to-keep-kids-away-from-online-porn/

 

[Handley_Page]

This may be old news, but I just found it today. I'm wondering how they will identify the person behind the keyboard? Undoubtedly, there will be those who will get around the ban somehow.

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy...lacklists-to-keep-kids-away-from-online-porn/

In the case of non-identified (no Bank card, Passport, etc..), a young person can obtain an ID card.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

So, you're okay with giving someone your Bank Card Number? Or passport number? What an invasion of privacy.

This is something the parents should control, not government. If parents are to lazy, charge them with contributing to the delinquency of a minor.

 

[SimonDoom]

So, you're okay with giving someone your Bank Card Number? Or passport number? What an invasion of privacy.

This is something the parents should control, not government. If parents are to lazy, charge them with contributing to the delinquency of a minor.

Amen. I hope we don't get to this kind of nonsense in the US.

There are so many real problems in this world, and people still get worked about the phantom dangers of porn.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

Amen. I hope we don't get to this kind of nonsense in the US.

There are so many real problems in this world, and people still get worked about the phantom dangers of porn.

I hear you brother.

I have looked at porn for most of my life, per site regulation, I started at 18... cough cough... through today. And guess what? I have never, ever raped anyone or even thought about raping anyone. Nor did do any of those other nasty things people of education claim porn does. In fact I think repression is what causes all that crap.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

Question: Those are just the porn sites based in the UK, right?

I can see a big problem here or say Hong Kong with them just plain saying to the UK - fuck you. You want us to check ID's We'll need a million pounds to fix our computer systems, so piss off.

 

[Maeven_quinn]

This may be old news, but I just found it today. I'm wondering how they will identify the person behind the keyboard? Undoubtedly, there will be those who will get around the ban somehow.

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy...lacklists-to-keep-kids-away-from-online-porn/

There has never been a time since I hit puberty that porn wasn't easy to access online, which means that everyone my age had to suffer from the severe sex expectation gap in ways previous generations might not have. Terrible sex-ed in the United States doesn't help either, although that's a slight tangent.

The idea of children -and I guess in general younger minors- watching porn definitely bothers me, so I'm not against age verification in principle if I'm being honest. There's probably a way to protect both privacy and age verification, though it doesn't look like (from this article) that the UK has done that quite yet.

 

[SimonDoom]

I hear you brother.

I have looked at porn for most of my life, per site regulation, I started at 18... cough cough... through today. And guess what? I have never, ever raped anyone or even thought about raping anyone. Nor did do any of those other nasty things people of education claim porn does. In fact I think repression is what causes all that crap.

Ask yourself in what countries are women most oppressed and is rape the biggest problem. Often countries where porn is most strictly regulated.

I, too, started looking at porn immediately after I turned 18, and not a moment earlier. Never heard of the stuff before that. Does it violate site rules, however, if I say I may have noticed the shortness of Marcia's skirts on the Brady Bunch?

 

[ElectricBlue]

I, too, started looking at porn immediately after I turned 18, and not a moment earlier. Never heard of the stuff before that. Does it violate site rules, however, if I say I may have noticed the shortness of Marcia's skirts on the Brady Bunch?

My goodness, what a fine upstanding young man you were, waiting until your eighteenth birthday . Did your mom come up with a cup of tea in the morning, bending down in her short skirt to plug in the computer?

 

[Zeb_Carter]

There has never been a time since I hit puberty that porn wasn't easy to access online, which means that everyone my age had to suffer from the severe sex expectation gap in ways previous generations might not have. Terrible sex-ed in the United States doesn't help either, although that's a slight tangent.

The idea of children -and I guess in general younger minors- watching porn definitely bothers me, so I'm not against age verification in principle if I'm being honest. There's probably a way to protect both privacy and age verification, though it doesn't look like (from this article) that the UK has done that quite yet.

The underage child is the parents responsibility, not the governments. The parents can get blocking software for childs computer. The government has no business asking me for an ID. And sites that do to sign up, I don't sign up. In fact if they want me to even sign up, I won't. It none of their business who I am.

Now, yes, I did sign up here at Lit. but if you think my real name is Zeb Carter well I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you. Or how about a couple million acres of prime Florida swamp land for sale.

 

[oggbashan]

You will be able to buy an anonymous age-verified ID from corner shops.

But most teenagers are easily able to bypass the system more than aged crocks like me.

The intention is to stop children from inadvertently accessing porn when they don't want to.

Will it work? Most commentators don't think so.

 

[CeasarBoobage]

It bothers me to no end when a government of any type (from a home-owner association, to unions, to a nation) try to be a replacement daddy&mommy to their subjects (errrr.... citizens?).

Porn has it's downsides, there's no doubt, there is a seedier side of corruption and abuse that happens, but requiring a personally identifiable scheme to "register" to look at naked bodies mating is stupid. I see very little benefit from this.

As a parent, I do my best to shelter my kids from the evils of the world, and trying to restrict porn usage is one of those things. Sometimes I fail. Every parent does. You can't block all evil from their lives. Having been a horny and hormonal person, I know the hunger that drives that lust.

As a parent, I also know that the harder you try to deny access to something, the harder the offspring will try to do it. Teens may be dumb sometimes, but there is no denying they are also smart and motivated. They WILL find a way.

This law is stupid. It's also stupid that it's sure to be copied by other governments because they want to control their nation's population as well. We really don't need a new daddy&mommy.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

Ask yourself in what countries are women most oppressed and is rape the biggest problem. Often countries where porn is most strictly regulated.

I, too, started looking at porn immediately after I turned 18, and not a moment earlier. Never heard of the stuff before that. Does it violate site rules, however, if I say I may have noticed the shortness of Marcia's skirts on the Brady Bunch?

You see, back when I was even 18 there was no internet as we know it today. It was whole owned by DARPA at the time. I just had dad's playboys and penthouses and maybe an old 8mm movie on an old projector. Even when I got out of the service there was still no such thing as the WWW. That didn't come along until the late '80s and then it was just BBs via telnet. But being in the computer industry was a boon... I found out about all the new stuff long before everyone else.

 

[Emirus]

Question: Those are just the porn sites based in the UK, right?

I can see a big problem here or say Hong Kong with them just plain saying to the UK - fuck you. You want us to check ID's We'll need a million pounds to fix our computer systems, so piss off.

As I understand it they want it to apply to all porn sites based anywhere in the world which would include Literotica because age sensitive programs pick up on the word “erotica.” But it won’t work because it won’t be enforceable so there’s no need for anyone to get their knickers in a twist. As for getting round a ban, if it is introduced, use a VPN.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

As I understand it they want it to apply to all porn sites based anywhere in the world which would include Literotica because age sensitive programs pick up on the word “erotica.” But it won’t work because it won’t be enforceable so there’s no need for anyone to get their knickers in a twist. As for getting round a ban, if it is introduced, use a VPN.

A VPN from another country.

 

[ElectricBlue]

In the case of non-identified (no Bank card, Passport, etc..), a young person can obtain an ID card.

I've seen sites use a simple "put your birthday in the boxes" system, with three drop downs for day, month, year. Put in any set of numbers, and you're in, provided you know how to subtract 18 from 2019. That mental arithmetic alone will stump most "young persons," if my experience in getting change from shop assistants is anything to go by.

I also regularly see sites with a default adult content filter, with at least two positive declarations required to access adult material (often with the birthday drop-down). I can't imagine anything much more complex than that.

 

[jaF0]

I can see a big problem here or say Hong Kong with them just plain saying to the UK - fuck you.

That would be Fuck UK (pronounced youk).

 

[CeasarBoobage]

As I understand it they want it to apply to all porn sites based anywhere in the world which would include Literotica because age sensitive programs pick up on the word “erotica.” But it won’t work because it won’t be enforceable so there’s no need for anyone to get their knickers in a twist. As for getting round a ban, if it is introduced, use a VPN.

This is also part of why this law is so stupid. If the EU fines facebook for breaking some law, they will get their check, and nobody goes to jail. But when the dude living in his parents basement and owning donkeys-n-midgets.com doesn't implement this age checker, what would happen? Would he be extradited and go to jail? No. He wouldn't even get a letter. Will the UK now build a China-esque firewall that blocks unapproved content?

 

[beachbum1958]

As I understand it they want it to apply to all porn sites based anywhere in the world which would include Literotica because age sensitive programs pick up on the word “erotica.” But it won’t work because it won’t be enforceable so there’s no need for anyone to get their knickers in a twist. As for getting round a ban, if it is introduced, use a VPN.

Exactly; the huffing and harrumphing of a few self-appointed, morally outraged, willy-watching Bluestockings is going to do nothing except give the VPN industry a massive leg-up in the UK. As for the age-verification, there's nothing stopping little Freddy from pinching his mother's credit card and signing-up with her credentials, thereby leaving her financial life under direct threat, but he doesn't care, because hardcore sex, yaay.

The morons who proposed and pushed for this really haven't considered the potential for massive identity theft, misuse of personal data, and ripe opportunities for endless financial cybercrime by jokers in India, China, Turkey, Nigeria, and Crimea. Regulating the internet, which is what our fearless leaders are trying to do, dress it up how they will, is a thankless, pointless, ultimately unenforceable dead-end; might as well try and empty the sea with a teaspoon.

Here in France, they believe, quite rightly, it's the parent's responsibility to audit how and when, and what content, their children access on the internet, there's no self-appointed, state-approved nanny-goat busybody looking over their shoulder and bleating at them over what is morally right and proper for their children to do, see, or want out of their cyberlife experience.

 

[Bramblethorn]

Will the UK now build a China-esque firewall that blocks unapproved content?

It's had one for years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_blocking_in_the_United_Kingdom

 

[Maeven_quinn]

The underage child is the parents responsibility, not the governments.

Meh... “it’s the parent’s job...” always sounds a little knee-jerk to me.

The United States and CA has had plenty of laws concerning what can be advertised to children and teenagers or what can be purchased by them. Joe Camel comes to mind, as does purchasing of porn, or booze. Hell, I recently learned pre-1980s advertising to kids was much more restricted.

I’m all for romance and sex shops, and it’s perfectly reasonable for zoning laws to keep them clear of schools.

Grunting “it’s the parent’s job to....” ignores that we already have and maintain plenty of laws to protect minors from stuff that might not be so great for them.

 

[SimonDoom]

Meh... “it’s the parent’s job...” always sounds a little knee-jerk to me.

The United States and CA has had plenty of laws concerning what can be advertised to children and teenagers or what can be purchased by them. Joe Camel comes to mind, as does purchasing of porn, or booze. Hell, I recently learned pre-1980s advertising to kids was much more restricted.

I’m all for romance and sex shops, and it’s perfectly reasonable for zoning laws to keep them clear of schools.

Grunting “it’s the parent’s job to....” ignores that we already have and maintain plenty of laws to protect minors from stuff that might not be so great for them.

I can't speak for Zeb, of course, but my read of what he's saying isn't that we should get rid of all such laws, but that we don't need more of them. That's my view, anyway, so maybe I'm just projecting.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

Meh... “it’s the parent’s job...” always sounds a little knee-jerk to me.

The United States and CA has had plenty of laws concerning what can be advertised to children and teenagers or what can be purchased by them. Joe Camel comes to mind, as does purchasing of porn, or booze. Hell, I recently learned pre-1980s advertising to kids was much more restricted.

I’m all for romance and sex shops, and it’s perfectly reasonable for zoning laws to keep them clear of schools.

Grunting “it’s the parent’s job to....” ignores that we already have and maintain plenty of laws to protect minors from stuff that might not be so great for them.

I can't speak for Zeb, of course, but my read of what he's saying isn't that we should get rid of all such laws, but that we don't need more of them. That's my view, anyway, so maybe I'm just projecting.

Exactly Simon. Government has it toe in too deep in an individuals life as it is. So git off my lawn!

 

[CuteSlaveLisa]

Is that 18 (old) English (which the English no longer use) years or Metric years?

10 hours/day
10 days/week 100
10 weeks/month 1,000
10 months a year 10,000 = hours a year

It makes a difference of 2 years, 2 months, 3 weeks and 2 days you know. ;-)

Love and Kisses

Lisa Ann

 

[Hypoxia]

10 months a year 10,000 = hours a [metric] year

24 hrs x ~365.25 days = ~8766 hours per solar year. Your metric year is 1 1/7 times longer. That implies rotating seasonal specials at WalMart.

ObTopic: I don't want my age verified. It only gets worse with time.