Popular in Category

[SanityCheck]

Can/Will someone explain to me how a story gets tagged for the Popular list within a category? It appears stories are selected based on some criteria other than raw score.

I had a story appear as Popular in the Erotic Horror category earlier today. Since that time, the score has increased and I checked again in to see how may spaces it had moved up... only to find it missing.

The score is higher than when it first appeared (after someone 1 bombed me), and should be near the top of the list. The story has more votes than some other stories in the list, but it's not there.

I was on the correct tab (last 30 days) and the story was published today.

This isn't the first time I thought one of my stories should have been on the popular list only to have it not appear. I don't think its some grand conspiracy, and I always assumed when my story didn't appear it was because it didn't meet some requirement. What has confused me is my story WAS on the list (unless I've lost my mind and imagined the entire thing) and now it's gone.

To be clear, sometimes my stories DO appear on the list. When they do, they appear where they belong score wise, and then disappear when they should. But I can't work out why some stories make the list when others don't.

Any thoughts?

Thanks.

 

[NotWise]

Can/Will someone explain to me how a story gets tagged for the Popular list within a category? It appears stories are selected based on some criteria other than raw score.

For the 30-day and 12-month lists, there is no minimum vote requirement. Stories are ranked by their rating with the number of votes as the tie-breaker.

There is a minimum number of votes (100, I think) required for the all-time list, otherwise it works like the other two.

If you're seeing rankings that are inconsistent with what you see in you're Control Panel, then it's probably because the Top list does not update at the same regularity as the Control Panel. For a story that's published today, then your CP will change frequently, and the top list will often be out of date.

 

[ChloeTzang]

Can/Will someone explain to me how a story gets tagged for the Popular list within a category? It appears stories are selected based on some criteria other than raw score.

I had a story appear as Popular in the Erotic Horror category earlier today. Since that time, the score has increased and I checked again in to see how may spaces it had moved up... only to find it missing.

The score is higher than when it first appeared (after someone 1 bombed me), and should be near the top of the list. The story has more votes than some other stories in the list, but it's not there.

I was on the correct tab (last 30 days) and the story was published today.

This isn't the first time I thought one of my stories should have been on the popular list only to have it not appear. I don't think its some grand conspiracy, and I always assumed when my story didn't appear it was because it didn't meet some requirement. What has confused me is my story WAS on the list (unless I've lost my mind and imagined the entire thing) and now it's gone.

To be clear, sometimes my stories DO appear on the list. When they do, they appear where they belong score wise, and then disappear when they should. But I can't work out why some stories make the list when others don't.

Any thoughts?

Thanks.

Popular is based on Frequency of views within the different time periods rather than score, I think. Of course a higher scored story is often more popular - the higher score attracts more readers. If you look, you can select by today, 7 days and 30 days so stories will appear and disappear.

 

[SanityCheck]

If you're seeing rankings that are inconsistent with what you see in you're Control Panel, then it's probably because the Top list does not update at the same regularity as the Control Panel. For a story that's published today, then your CP will change frequently, and the top list will often be out of date.

This I know. I would have assumed the popular list hadn't refreshed yet had the story remained where it was, or the story hadn't met some other criteria had it not appeared at all.

Unless I imagined the entire thing, it was on the list and now it's not there at all. If it was simply a delayed refresh, it should have at least remained where it was before.

 

[SanityCheck]

Popular is based on Frequency of views within the different time periods rather than score, I think. Of course a higher scored story is often more popular - the higher score attracts more readers. If you look, you can select by today, 7 days and 30 days so stories will appear and disappear.

Okay... that would explain why it was there and then disappeared, but that doesn't seem right. The scores seem very much sorted in order based on scores, highest first. If were entirely bases on views, I'd think you'd see SOME variation in the order of the scores.

 

[NotWise]

This I know. I would have assumed the popular list hadn't refreshed yet had the story remained where it was, or the story hadn't met some other criteria had it not appeared at all.

Unless I imagined the entire thing, it was on the list and now it's not there at all. If it was simply a delayed refresh, it should have at least remained where it was before.

I checked a couple of the other 30-day top lists, and they didn't contain stories posted today. I think those lists actually update only once/day, so it seems like a glitch if you saw your story on the list today.

In most categories, the 30-day list contains everything posted in the last 30 days.

 

[SanityCheck]

I checked a couple of the other 30-day top lists, and they didn't contain stories posted today. I think those lists actually update only once/day, so it seems like a glitch if you saw your story on the list today.

In most categories, the 30-day list contains everything posted in the last 30 days.

Rather than assume it was a glitch, I'll assume I've lost my mind and didn't actually see it where I thought I saw it.

I'll check it again tomorrow.

Thanks for the input everyone.

 

[KeithD]

Popular is based on Frequency of views within the different time periods rather than score, I think. Of course a higher scored story is often more popular - the higher score attracts more readers. If you look, you can select by today, 7 days and 30 days so stories will appear and disappear.

With a dash of being favorited too, I think.

 

[ElectricBlue]

Popular is based on Frequency of views within the different time periods rather than score, I think. Of course a higher scored story is often more popular - the higher score attracts more readers. If you look, you can select by today, 7 days and 30 days so stories will appear and disappear.

The "recently popular" one day, seven day and thirty day lists are ranked highest score first.

I suspect it's Views over the period to determine the candidate list, then score is used for the sort.

One of my recent stories made all three lists for several days - but the ranked score shown in the lists wasn't the same as the real-time score on the CP, so there's more maths involved, I reckon. Maybe it's an average score for the period in question, polled at midnight; something like that.

 

[NotWise]

The "recently popular" one day, seven day and thirty day lists are ranked highest score first.

I suspect it's Views over the period to determine the candidate list, then score is used for the sort.

One of my recent stories made all three lists for several days - but the ranked score shown in the lists wasn't the same as the real-time score on the CP, so there's more maths involved, I reckon. Maybe it's an average score for the period in question, polled at midnight; something like that.

The "Recently Popular" list on the story page and the "Popular" list (Toplist) linked to the user CP and in the category page are different lists.

I answered about the "Popular" list (Toplist) linked to the user CP, and it looks like I wasn't completely right. At least the 12-month list doesn't seem to use the vote count as a tie-breaker.

 

[ElectricBlue]

The "Recently Popular" list on the story page and the "Popular" list (Toplist) linked to the user CP and in the category page are different lists.

Que? I've not got a popular list linked to my CP. The only "recently popular" lists I can see are those on the category front pages (the one day, seven day, thirty day lists - which click off to the complete period lists for that category). I can't see a twelve month list at all anymore - I wonder when that changed?

Your browser must be seeing different things to mine. That's weird.

 

[NotWise]

Que? I've not got a popular list linked to my CP. The only "recently popular" lists I can see are those on the category front pages (the one day, seven day, thirty day lists - which click off to the complete period lists for that category). I can't see a twelve month list at all anymore - I wonder when that changed?

Your browser must be seeing different things to mine. That's weird.

Go to the "Explore" link at the top of the user CP next to "New Story." It produces a drop-down menu that can take you to pretty much any popular destination on Lit. The menu item "Popular" takes you to the toplists. If you're using a mobile device of if your browser window is narrow you may only see the icon (an open book) for the "Explore" menu.

 

[ElectricBlue]

Go to the "Explore" link at the top of the user CP next to "New Story." It produces a drop-down menu that can take you to pretty much any popular destination on Lit. The menu item "Popular" takes you to the toplists. If you're using a mobile device of if your browser window is narrow you may only see the icon (an open book) for the "Explore" menu.

Ta. Didn't know that. I remember the twelve month/all time lists used to be found from the category front page, and to be honest, I didn't notice when that changed. Which shows how often I look!

 

[NotWise]

Ta. Didn't know that. I remember the twelve month/all time lists used to be found from the category front page, and to be honest, I didn't notice when that changed. Which shows how often I look!

If by "category front page" you mean the page with all the categories listed, then it hasn't changed. The toplists are still linked there, right below the "New" link.

 

[Hypoxia]

Go to the "Explore" link at the top of the user CP next to "New Story."

Those links are on the Author's Activity page, not the User CP page, a different animal.

 

[ElectricBlue]

If by "category front page" you mean the page with all the categories listed, then it hasn't changed. The toplists are still linked there, right below the "New" link.

There's browsers and browsers, then.

I'm seeing something different - I can only see the twelve month/all time lists if I go in the back door from the drop-down you told me about. If I go into a category from the Literotica front page, I don't see those lists, only the recently popular lists (on the rhs of the new stories list).

By category front page, I mean the specific category (not the listing of all categories).

No wonder navigation gets tricky, with different devices/browsers presenting content differently.

 

[NotWise]

There's browsers and browsers, then.

I'm seeing something different - I can only see the twelve month/all time lists if I go in the back door from the drop-down you told me about. If I go into a category from the Literotica front page, I don't see those lists, only the recently popular lists (on the rhs of the new stories list).

By category front page, I mean the specific category (not the listing of all categories).

No wonder navigation gets tricky, with different devices/browsers presenting content differently.

I wasn't talking about the category hub, but the page that lists the categories: https://literotica.com/stories/

 

[ElectricBlue]

I wasn't talking about the category hub, but the page that lists the categories: https://literotica.com/stories/

We're somewhat at cross purposes. No big deal.

I dig down and can see this: https://www.literotica.com/top/

I'm referring to this (for example): https://www.literotica.com/c/mature-sex

(Where one of mine is in the thirty day "recently popular" list).

There are many lists .

 

[RejectReality]

There are some quirks with the toplists that pop up every so often. One is that if your story gets swept, and it has fewer votes than it did when it entered the toplists, it sometimes won't update until your new vote total exceeds the previous vote total again.

Entries at the transition between pages also sometimes get lost in the shuffle. That usually rectifies itself the next time the toplist updates, unless you're unlucky enough for your story to be at the page transition again, and draw the short straw again.

As others have mentioned, the toplists only update once per day. Other things such as the Hall of Fame on the category hubs have their own, different update schedule. None of the listings anywhere will ever match up for very long with the nearly real-time listings on your author dashboard.

There are a few categories with lower minimum vote totals to make the all-time toplist. Chain, Letters and Transcripts are two I can think of off the top of my head.