Pollitical Corectness

[meop79]

Pollitcal corectness is just wrong it is simply and trully the death of our country.

This nation (America for those of you outside ) was founded as a place minorities could come and think and do whatever the hell they wanted as long as they didn't force other people to do it. Period.

Pollitical Corectness is the death of that. And I see a lot of it on these boards.

I would love someone anyone to explain why exactly they think it is a good thing. Because a great deal of you obviously do.

Meop79@yahoo.com

 

[Spinaroonie]

Um... So you're saying that because I call people "African-Americans" instead of "Niggers" that other people are less likely to come to America?

 

[Laurel]

This nation (America for those of you outside ) was founded as a place minorities could come and think and do whatever the hell they wanted as long as they didn't force other people to do it. Period.

Think and do whatever they wanted? I guess that's true unless they wanted to do things like vote, or not be slaves.

Carry on, though. Far be it for me to question one of the all time greatest cliches of talk radio.

 

[scylis]

i call dem niggahs, dey call me honkey.

it all good, bitch.

 

[meop79]

No honestly I don't think that's a little silly actually. But I would have a problem with you harassing someone because they said it.

Meop79@yahoo.com

 

[meop79]

Re: Re: Pollitical Corectness

Think and do whatever they wanted? I guess that's true unless they wanted to do things like vote, or not be slaves.
Carry on, though. Far be it for me to question one of the all time greatest cliches of talk radio.

Shrug look I'm not talking about the freedom and liberty that has been added since 1776 It's true that some things that were taken for granted then have no place today... however.... that has nothing to do with PC in the 21st century.

Meop79@yahoo.com

 

[Dougy]

How can you say you see a lot of political correctness on these boards? That is implying that you know that people don't actually believe what they are saying, but are changing it to be more 'socially acceptable'. You can't know this. I am sure that some of the things that are said here are out of some PC considerations, but I don't know what.

I am beginning to wonder if political correctness isn't at least a bit necessary, because we would all end up hating each other if we knew what people were actually thinking without the PC buffer.

Feeling a bit misanthropic today...

 

[p_p_man]

Um... So you're saying that because I call people "African-Americans" instead of "Niggers" that other people are less likely to come to America?

It would be much more to the point of you just called them 'Americans'.

Classifying as you do just divides.

What do you call Whites?

Anglo-Americans
Irish-Americans
Serbo-Croatian-Americans
Italian-Americans
Russian-Americans
Greek-Americans

It's quite a strange habit really.

I suppose over here I'm a Viking-AngloSaxon-Norman-Irish-Brit!

 

[Dougy]

You know p_p_man, I have a bit of an issue with the semantics of this one myself. Why should we accuse every black person in the U.S. of being American? It just seems to be an insult to the African-Canadians and the just plain Africans. Besides, it seems to me to be an exclusionary name...like it somehow separates African-Americans from real Americans. I have never seen why anyone would prefer this moniker.

 

[badbabysitter]

This nation (America for those of you outside ) was founded as a place minorities could come and think and do whatever the hell they wanted as long as they didn't force other people to do it. Period.

Meop79@yahoo.com

Funny, i thought it was founded my white upper-middle class slave owning males who didnt wan't to pay their taxes.

Personally i am very PC, but then again I dont want to be relegated to being "barefoot and pregnant". Or is womens lib a bad thing too?
being PC isnt destroying the USA (not america, America is a region not a nation). You have to understand it from a historical view point. the US is reaching the pinnacle of its power, and like other nations and empires throughout time which have attained similar sway. .. decadence and corruption seep into every aspect

IE, Rome---slavery, orgies, blood sports, riots, corrupt politicians
England--- drug fuelled economy (opium), opium (lol) political corruption, insular nationalism in a world spanning empire
I could go on

 

[cymbidia]

This nation (America for those of you outside ) was founded as a place minorities could come and think and do whatever the hell they wanted as long as they didn't force other people to do it. Period.

The U.S. was founded as a place wherein small splinter groups could come to practice their small splinter ways in peace. However, they were vigilant about enforcing their ways upon the members of their small splinter colonies.

Go reread that American History text again, okay? You think those Puritans were letting people do whatever the hell they wanted? How about the Quakers in William Penn's colony? What about the Catholics in Mary's Land; think they got to frolic in the morning dew in their undies if they chose to do that?

I'm afraid you're laboring under some delusions about the reasons that this country was initially settled. And that freedom guaranteed to all at the time of the Constitution? That was for free, white men who owned property. Everyone else was a non-person, just more property pretty much.

Things are different today, yes. And we're all better off for it, too.

I choose my words carefully, here and Out There (unless i don't care about offending other people at that moment) because i *want* to communicate with others. I want to talk and have them listen. I want to hear what they have to say. I want an exchange of ideas and a flow of reality.

I can't have that if, by the words i let fall from my mouth, i unwittingly offend some of them, the people i want to talk with, and so they turn away.

I can't have that priceless communication if i don't understand the power of my words to influence someone else's daily life.

I can't do my part to hold a civil, decent, meaningful conversation if the other person is backing away slowly cuz my speech is so filled with offensive phrases and words.

If i have to be "PC" to accomplish that kind of real communication, i say Bring it on! Better PC then a flaming ignoramus who has decided that whatever he says, it doesn't matter anyway - so why should he even try? Better PC then someone who thinks with his skin color. Better PC then...then...then...being unable to communicate with the rainbow of people and cultures that comprise our society today.

cym, who has taught U.S. History to 13 and 14 year olds on one or two occasions

 

[teddybear4play]

I think we can all agree that some things that are "PC" are of no harm to anyone. I don't think using terms like "African-American" are going to be the downfall of American society, even though you can technically apply the term for Americans of Jamaican and South African descent (I'm waiting for the first white South African who tries to claim African-American on a college application. It ought to be interesting).

But obviously reasonable people should set limits to it. There's a movement afoot to blanch classic literature of any characteristics that could potentially be offensive to anyone. Which means that you can't read Hemingway's The Old Man And The Sea because of the age inequities of the word "old" and the fact that living by the ocean might impair the learning of kids from Nebraska, who live nowhere near any large bodies of water.

The original plan for the statue of the flag-raising firefighters at the World Trade Center called for the three white firemen to be changed to a white guy, a black guy, and a Hispanic guy. That's sickening. No one changed the race of Native American Ira Hayes in the Iwo Jima statue.

Diversity is a wonderful thing. But like any positive things, it can be taken to an unnatural and detrimental extreme.

TB4p

 

[badbabysitter]

truly want to save the US, knock it off its superpower pedestal and take it back economically to the point it was before it decided to enter the second World War

 

[Laurel]

Then, buy it a Coke.

Offtopic:
badbabysitter: does the 'bad' in your name mean naughty, or does it mean you're not good at it?

I hated babysitting.

 

[badbabysitter]

It was a combo of the two, i was horrible when i sat kids back in those wonderful teen years.

plus I was listening to the song when i thought of the name lol

 

[meop79]

Re: Re: Pollitical Corectness

The U.S. was founded as a place wherein small splinter groups could come to practice their small splinter ways in peace. However, they were vigilant about enforcing their ways upon the members of their small splinter colonies.

Go reread that American History text again, okay? You think those Puritans were letting people do whatever the hell they wanted? How about the Quakers in William Penn's colony? What about the Catholics in Mary's Land; think they got to frolic in the morning dew in their undies if they chose to do that?

Yes they did if you weren't living with them look the fact is these groups were groups of people who had agreed to thier own rules don't you see that? if you didn't like it you shut your trap obeyd till you had some money and things saved up and you moved to somewhere else!

And they and they didn't bother you!

It's a shame you thought telling me I labor under delusions is intelligent conversation....

Meop79@yahoo.com

 

[Laurel]

It was a combo of the two, i was horrible when i sat kids back in those wonderful teen years.

plus I was listening to the song when i thought of the name lol

Very cool. Nice to meetcha.

 

[badbabysitter]

The Puritans "the founding fathers" ruled over england with an iron fist. When they were booted out they went to America to spread the love

 

[Dougy]

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if you didn't like it you shut your trap obeyd till you had some money and things saved up and you moved to somewhere else!

It's a shame you thought telling me I labor under delusions is intelligent conversation....

So what you are looking for is some sort of monetarily based dictatorship then?

You labour under delusions...

 

[meop79]

I'm glad I've gotten such a debate going but...

It's funny no one has answered my Q. everyone please go back and reread my first post....

Meop79@yahoo.com

 

[meop79]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Pollitical Corectness

So what you are looking for is some sort of monetarily based dictatorship then?
You labour under delusions...

Piffle do you really think we don't have that now ROFLMAO

Oh how silly people are the rich still rule this country every bit as much as they did in 1776 the problem is now they try to say not in any part of this country instead of simply not in my township

Meop79@yahoo.com

 

[badbabysitter]

PC forced is bad, no arguement. But bigotry is never cool.

 

[Dougy]

I think no one is buying into your original question. The premise is bad. Is political correctness taken overboard at times? Certainly. But at the same time, society does not change it's views just because it wants to. Political correctness is, theoretically, the front of a change in society to a more accepting manner.

This just may force me to start an annoying thread some time...

 

[meop79]

PC forced is bad, no arguement. But bigotry is never cool.

Of course not.

I totally agree but the ideof freedom .....sigh.... it is become so horibly deformed in this country....

Take the bs about the under god in the pledge of alegance or any of a number of other things like all the laws that make some people just a little more equal then others now days...

Meop79@yahoo.com

 

[Dougy]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Pollitical Corectness

Piffle do you really think we don't have that now ROFLMAO

I am not saying that isn't to a great extent what we have now, but you seem content with that.