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Poll: Most Americans disapprove of SCOTUS decision on Voting Rights Act

There are other polls with different results.

WTF is the matter with you and your wide-eyed innocence?
 
The court isn't there to do what's right, they're there to do what's legal. I still think they came to the wrong conclusion and maybe I'll read the entire decision. Near as I can tell at present is that the court decided it's not fair toe assume that the south is filled with racists who'll jump at the first opportunity to fuck over minorities. We have to wait until it happens (again) and then bring up the case.

Which to me suggests one of two things, either this was always Unconstitional and they just let it fly for decades or there is nothing wrong (legally) with it and it should have been left alone until/unless Congress.
 
Sean Renaud said:
The court isn't there to do what's right, they're there to do what's legal. I still think they came to the wrong conclusion and maybe I'll read the entire decision. Near as I can tell at present is that the court decided it's not fair toe assume that the south is filled with racists who'll jump at the first opportunity to fuck over minorities. We have to wait until it happens (again) and then bring up the case.

Which to me suggests one of two things, either this was always Unconstitional and they just let it fly for decades or there is nothing wrong (legally) with it and it should have been left alone until/unless Congress.
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I respectfully disagree that they came to the wrong conclusion.

The whole episode is a masterful piece of long-term Conservative gamesmanship. Let me explain.

The VRA had three important safeguards:
  1. It needed to be renewed every x number of years
  2. The formula to determine which areas were discrimatory could be adjusted.
  3. States could be excused from pre-clearance by demonstrating good faith efforts to comply.

Obviously, the latter was not going to apply because conservatives have a vested interest in suppressing minority votes.

Also, they couldn't vote to NOT renew it because it was politically toxic.

That left item number 2 as the only means to attack.

Democrats attempted to adjust the underlying formula to account for changes, but Republicans voted down these changes. This left the 1965 formula intact, which turned out to be a masterstroke.

The activists on the Supreme Court legislated from the bench and decided that, renewable act or not, the underlying formula was no longer relevant and therefore unconsitutional.

Bottom Line: it is now open season on minority voters.
 
So the short version is Republicans intentionally broke it so it would fail to pass muster? I don't suppose the history of said votes is easy to track down?
 
Only cus you quoted him. I've had that peice of shit on ignore for a while. I don't bother with people who never add anything to the conversation. Even Jen is more likely to contribute than he is and she doesn't contibute shit.
 
Most disagree re Obamacare too.

Indiv mandate wasn't in the revenue portion, but Roberts pretended it could be a tax, and the following morning W House reiterated Obamacare wasn't a tax.

In attempting to preserve the Ct, Roberts turned it into a joke.
 
Sean Renaud said:
So the short version is Republicans intentionally broke it so it would fail to pass muster? I don't suppose the history of said votes is easy to track down?
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I actually did read an article about that earlier this week, I can't seem to find it in my browser history so I probably read it at work.

HERE is a link that recounts several efforts by conservatives in 2006 to sabotage the VRA.
 
landslider2000 said:
Most disagree re Obamacare too.

Indiv mandate wasn't in the revenue portion, but Roberts pretended it could be a tax, and the following morning W House reiterated Obamacare wasn't a tax.

In attempting to preserve the Ct, Roberts turned it into a joke.
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No. Most do not disagree with Obamacare, at least not in the way you want them too.

KRCummings said:
So what?
Supreme Court decisions are not subject to popular vote.
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That's what I said! I still disagree (though I'm reading up on stuff now so this may change) with the conclusion they came to but they aren't supposed to care what the majority thinks.
 
I see the question they used is this

c. striking down a key part of the federal law overseeing voting rights for minorities.......highly questionable way of putting it

they should have asked

DO WE STILL NEED TO PROVIDE MINORITIES DISPROPORTIONATE ASSISTANCE AND HELP SO THEY CAN VOTE 3 TIMES IN A GIVEN ELECTION
 
Sean Renaud said:
No. Most do not disagree with Obamacare, at least not in the way you want them too.



That's what I said! I still disagree (though I'm reading up on stuff now so this may change) with the conclusion they came to but they aren't supposed to care what the majority thinks.
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I'm sure it's nowhere near the first decision to be unpopular. More often than not it's probably because the populace is clueless about constitutional law. They think they know it but they really don't.
 
landslider2000 said:
Most disagree re Obamacare too.

Indiv mandate wasn't in the revenue portion, but Roberts pretended it could be a tax, and the following morning W House reiterated Obamacare wasn't a tax.

In attempting to preserve the Ct, Roberts turned it into a joke.
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Classic Landslider: Bitter tears and outright lies.
 
JAMESBJOHNSON said:
There are other polls with different results.

WTF is the matter with you and your wide-eyed innocence?
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He's a partisan obsessed scum. The fact that conservatives and others on the right have already pretty much left the Republican party apparently doesn't matter. What's he going to do when there's one or several new far right parties. Who will he hate the most? :confused:
 
I haven't been listening to the "news" or reading political discussion boards or any of that for several weeks. I've only heard brief summaries in passing of what's been happening. I've gotten the gist of some of these fags decisions and some of the other stuff. Apparently, ONE decision didn't go EXACTLY the way the social liberals wanted it to go and they've been whining and whining and whining about it.

These "people" are just absoulte scum who think they should get exactly their way on EVERY SINGLE ISSUE with ZERO COMPROMISE and ZERO EXCEPTIONS ever. In a system with proportional representation, that wouldn't be possible. There would need to be some compromises and everybody would get some of what they want. We need PR now more than ever. BTW, why is there still a "voting rights act" in 2013? Liberals are truly stuck in the 1950s, which is what they always try to insult others over.
 
Before becoming spineless, Roberts wrote much of the dissent, noting that the indiv mandate was not in the revenue portion of the bill. Obama haughtily denied that Obamacare was a tax.

Roberts issued a ridiculous ruling, and the W House said that the following morning in reiterating that Obamacare was not a tax.
 
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