Poll: IF a foreign power invaded the US and bombed NY...

[Sandia]

Would the US use nuclear weapons?

Would you support it?

 

[70/30]

Yes we would and no I wouldn't.

 

[Bob_Bytchin]

Since you didn't say they nuked us, and said they bomb us, I abstained.

 

[RosevilleCAguy]

Would the US use nuclear weapons?

Would you support it?

Geese from Canada cross the border repeatedly. They have strafed and bombed my car and person with guano.

The pussys we have running the US wont let me use nukes. I only get a shotgun with which to defend myself.

The bastards.

NUKE THE GEESE.

 

[Cleopatra]

Would the US use nuclear weapons?

Would you support it?

Way too vague...

Why? Justification? Type of bomb? Which power?

 

[Harbinger]

We would respond in kind, conventional weapons for conventional bombing, nukes for nukes.

And you said Poll: poll

 

[bknight2602]

No we wouldn't and no I wouldn't support any use.

 

[RosevilleCAguy]

We would respond in kind, conventional weapons for conventional bombing, nukes for nukes.

And you said Poll: poll

Fuck that. I can't throw my guano high enough to reach the foul and most foreign Canada Geese.

 

[RosevilleCAguy]

No we wouldn't and no I wouldn't support any use.

Not even in the microwave for dinner?

 

[Worm]

IF a foreign power invaded the US and bombed NY...


They already did.

 

[patient1]

To my way of thinking,
A foreign power called Al Q'ueida did in fact invade US airspace & succesfuly Kamikazied targets in NY, & DC.


While I wouldn't preclude a nuclear weapon, I opposed their use in the caves of Tora Borra. Nukes are best as deterrents, & unpredictable as the weather(fallout).

Just because somebody commits an atrocity against innocent civilians, doesn't mean you need to stoop to their level.

I think nukes are best used as a deterrent & response to weapons of mass destruction.

 

[Mona Lisa]

Re: Re: Poll: IF a foreign power invaded the US and bombed NY...

Geese from Canada cross the border repeatedly. They have strafed and bombed my car and person with guano.

The pussys we have running the US wont let me use nukes. I only get a shotgun with which to defend myself.

The bastards.

NUKE THE GEESE.

[THANKSGIVING AT RosevilleCAGuy's HOUSE]

RCAGSpawn: Dad, why can't we have turkey like everyone else?

RCAG: Just shut up and give thanks for the goose.

RCAGSpawn: But Dad, why is it glowing????

 

[Dixon Carter Lee]

An astonishingly vague question. We talking China, or Jamaica?

 

[teddybear4play]

Depends on who and how.

If New York were nuked, then we probably would no matter who.

I don't think I'd care enough to support it.

TB4p

 

[huskie]

Would the US use nuclear weapons?

Would you support it?

yes and yes

 

[70/30]

When France pre-emptively levels NYC, GWB will nuke Paris.

 

[Lost Cause]

Call me nuts, but.......

I could swear you're trying to put some sort of relation between the question, and the on-going US/Coalition operation.
As much as some of you may hate it, the US is one of the few nations left that does have a purpose for good in the world, but people can't see it, clouded by their hatred and resentment.
They are of no use in a rational discussion.

If Baghdad releases weapons that they are banned by countless UN resolutions from having, they will be punished.
I hope NK is watching carefully.

 

[Sandia]

Lost Cause: you're nuts.

I'm wondering though, if Saddam hasn't used his WMDs by now, what's he saving them for? An even more important war?

 

[Purrde Flower]

Didn't vote. Need more information.

 

[bad kitty]

Looks like this thread needs this...

No matter what your views on President Bush's statement of upcoming war, this, from an English journalist, is very interesting. Just a word of background, for those of you who aren't familiar with the UK's Daily Mirror.

This is a notoriously left-wing daily that is normally not supportive of the Colonials across the Atlantic.

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Tony Parsons Daily Mirror September 11, 2002

One year ago, the world witnessed a unique kind of broadcasting -- the mass murder of thousands, live on television. As a lesson in the pitiless cruelty of the human race, September 11 was up there with Pol Pot's Mountain of Skulls in Cambodia, or the skeletal bodies stacked like garbage in the Nazi concentration camps.
An unspeakable act so cruel, so calculated and so utterly merciless that surely the world could agree on one thing - nobody deserves this fate. Surely there could be consensus: The victims were truly innocent, the perpetrators truly evil.
But to the world's eternal shame, 9/11 is increasingly seen as America's comeuppance. Incredibly, anti-Americanism has increased over the last year. There has always been a simmering resentment to the USA in this country; too loud, too rich, too full of themselves, and so much happier than Europeans - but it has become an epidemic. And it seems incredible to me. More than that, it turns my stomach.
America is this country's greatest friend and our staunchest ally. We are bonded to the US by culture, language and blood. A little over half a century ago, around half a million Americans died for our freedoms, as well as their own. Have we forgotten so soon? And exactly a year ago, thousands of ordinary men, women and children - not just Americans, but from dozens of countries, were butchered by a small group of religious fanatics. Are we so quick to betray them?
What touched the heart about those who died in the Twin Towers and on the planes, was that we recognized them. Young fathers and mothers, somebody's son and somebody's daughter, husbands, wives, and children, some unborn.
And these people brought it on themselves? Their nation is to blame for their meticulously planned slaughter?
These days you don't have to be some dust-encrusted nut job in Kabul or Karachi or Finsbury Park to see America as the Great Satan. The anti-American alliance is made up of self-loathing liberals who blame the Americans for every ill in the Third World, and conservatives suffering from power-envy, bitter that the world's only superpower can do what it likes without having to ask permission.
The truth is that America has behaved with enormous restraint since September 11. Remember, remember - Remember the gut-wrenching tapes of weeping men phoning their wives to say, "I love you," before they were burned alive.
Remember those people leaping to their deaths from the top of burning skyscrapers.
Remember the hundreds of firemen buried alive.
Remember the smiling face of that beautiful little girl who was on oneof the planes with her mum.
Remember, remember - And realize that America has never retaliated for 9/11 in anything like the way it could have.
So a few al-Qaeda tourists got locked up without a trial in Camp X-ray? Pass the Kleenex.
So some Afghan wedding receptions were shot up after they merrily fired their semi-automatics in a sky full of American planes? A shame, but maybe next time they should stick to confetti.
AMERICA could have turned a large chunk of the world into a parking lot. That it didn't is a sign of strength. American voices are already being raised against attacking Iraq - that's what a democracy is for. How many in the Islamic world will have a minute's silence for the slaughtered innocents of 9/11? How many Islamic leaders will have the guts to say that the mass murder of 9/11 was an abomination?
When the news of 9/11 broke on the West Bank, those freedom-loving Palestinians were dancing in the street. America watched all of that - and didn't push the button. We should thank the stars that America is the most powerful nation in the world. I still find it incredible that 9/11 did not provoke all-out war. Not a "war on terrorism."
A real war.
The fundamentalist dudes are talking about "opening the gates of hell," if America attacks Iraq. Well, America could have opened the gates of hell like you wouldn't believe.
The US is the most militarily powerful nation that ever strode the face of the earth. The campaign in Afghanistan may have been less than perfect and the planned war on Iraq may be misconceived.
But don't blame America for not bringing peace and light to these wretched countries. How many democracies are there in the Middle East, or in the Muslim world? You can count them on the fingers of one hand - assuming you haven't had any chopped off for minor shoplifting.
I love America, yet America is hated. I guess that makes me Bush's poodle. But I would rather be a dog in New York City than a Prince in Riyadh. Above all, America is hated because it is what every country wants to be - rich, free, strong, open, optimistic. Not ground down by the past, or religion, or some caste system. America is the best friend this country ever had and we should start remembering that.
Or do you really think the USA is the root of all evil? Tell it to the loved ones of the men and women who leaped to their death from the burning towers.
Tell it to the nursing mothers whose husbands died on one of the hijacked planes, or were ripped apart in a collapsing skyscraper. And tell it to the hundreds of young widows whose husbands worked for the New York Fire Department.
To our shame, George Bush gets a worse press than Saddam Hussein. Once we were told that Saddam gassed the Kurds, tortured his own people and set up rape-camps in Kuwait. Now we are told he likes Quality Street. Save me the range center, Oh Mighty One!
Remember, remember, September 11 -
One of the greatest atrocities in human history was committed against America. No, do more than remember. Never forget.
Do consider passing this on.

 

[70/30]

Lost Cause: you're nuts.

I'm wondering though, if Saddam hasn't used his WMDs by now, what's he saving them for? An even more important war?

valid point. also, maybe saddam getting a mixed international message convinced him to show restraint. patriots strive for a unified voice (esp domestically), IMO that'd be a substantial error. GWB isn't america nor all MDCs--the more people recognise that, the safer we are.

 

[patient1]

I'm wondering though, if Saddam hasn't used his WMDs by now, what's he saving them for? An even more important war?

see item 4) for some possible explanations

 

[Sterling]

Americans would never use Nukes over US soil. The fallout halflife is too long.

 

[Lasher]

Americans would never use Nukes over US soil.

Tell that to Nevada.

 

[Sandia]

see item 4) for some possible explanations

4) There are many possibillities. Perhaps none, one, some, or all of these are true. I don't know.-

-They are holding them until Saddam gives the order, & he can't because he's unconcious in a hospital bed.

- the psychological/propaganda warfare has made the generals hesitant to use them.

- the weather is wrong.

- the threat is making the advancing troops wear their protective gear, which is slowing them down.

- The delivery methods are inaccurate, so they are waiting for a large concentration of troops at a predictable point, such as a bottleneck like a bridge across the Euphrates.

- they only want to contaminate Shiite or Kurd lands, rather than provinces which the Iraqi soldiers consider home & are waiting for the troops to reach them.

- the communications have been jammed.

- the weapons are dis-assembled or too well hidden for quick access, such as burried in the desert.

-the targets are out of range.

- the weapons are only positioned to defend the capital & Saddam's hometown.

I agree, and I don't pretend to know whether Iraq has WMDs or not.

Cheney said absense of proof is not proof of absense. On the other hand, it's practically impossible to prove a negative.

What would it take to convince you Iraq doesn't have them?