Poem Discussion Circle?

[Mickie]

You know, I've been seeing a lot of communication on this board about poetry. I'm NOT a poet, but I do know that a lot of people like feedback, poetry or not. So I thought you might want a discussion circle like the stories have? I wouldn't be remarking a lot, to tell the truth, 'cause I don't have any real interest in poetry, but in all fairness, perhaps some of those who are more vocal here would like to help out with it?

Just a thought --

Mickie

 

[daughter]

focused group

Mickie--

The individual threads is more appealing in my opinion. Poets and readers alike seem to believe poetry is so subjective that analysis is unlikely to be well received.

If we have hobby writers, we have even more hobby poets. For most, these expressions are cathartic or written purely for entertainment.

I belong to a couple of poetry communities. The norm is individual threads where readers can post comments in a central location. Having a poem and comments in the same place is attractive for a few reasons:

1) Non-poetry readers can easily read and may discover an interest in poetry.

2)Poets can gain exposure and feedback in a single location.

3) Readers not only can see recommendations, but can interact with the poet in a more direct and immediate way within threads.

We've put it out there. It's really up to management to make a decision whether to provide this venue or not.

Peace,

daughter

 

[tigerjen]

Whoopee!

*cheering*

Mickie, Mickie, is the one
whose idea
sounds lots of fun!

haha.....I had to do that......

I think that the poetry discussion circle sounds terrific!

oh...here's another:

Poets, poets lend me your ears
Mickie proposed
A discussion circle here
For us poets of the spoken word
to let our voices be heard!

(Please forgive me......I need to get some sleep...had overnight
shift last nite and have one tonite....so off to bed I go!)

Mickie.....thank you!

TJ

 

[Unmasked Poet]

I would love to participate, despite what some may think I am well behaved in a social setting.

U.P.

 

[Mickie]

I don't have a lot of time to post right this minute, but I had to say -- TJ, you're a strange one. You remind me of that ridiculous song. Last time I went to the bar, many moons ago, someone got on the karreoke (sp?) machine and sang it out. Good thing I was pretty looped.

Mick

 

[Mickie]

Okay, I have ten minutes to think now. What I was thinking of for a poem discussion group is to do pretty much like we do with the stories. Author nominated poems are chosen each week and a single poem is the subject. Single thread about a single poem. And only those poems that the authors want discussed.

Like I said, I'm not a poet, but I'm sure someone who is will volunteer for duty in leading the discussions. Without that, it really is a waste of time. *broad hint here. Like brick falling on head?*

If not a lot of authors sign up, then the interest isn't high enough to keep it moving. I'd say we could try it out, and those who are interested would make it worthwhile. Can't hurt.

What say?

Mickie

 

[KillerMuffin]

Perhaps the poetry discussion can also round out to the art of making poetry and what it's about as opposed to dissecting posted poems. I think that would also be beneficial. Author hangout seems to be for story writers, don't see poets there and the story discussion circle is for stories and the feedback board seems to have caught the poetry thing.

I think there still needs to be a basic poetry forum.

 

[Mickie]

I think KM's right. However, this has been a recent revival of the Lit poets. If we give them a forum and a way to discuss poetry and poetic issues, then maybe we can keep them moving forward? What I'm looking for, I guess, is a balance on the feedback board. What I'm seeing is an abundance of poetry, which, although it might be perfectly wonderful, just isn't my cup of tea. I'd like to get a few more stories up here without subjecting myself to trying to post equal to the poets. Nothing against 'em, mind you.

Mickie

 

[Unmasked Poet]

Good idea Killer Muffin, why not just start it without waiting for a forum that may not happen?

Simply start a thread.

U.P.

 

[Mickie]

UP -- that's exactly what's going on now. Poets are threading.

We need to give them a place to do that, so like-minded readers don't have to wade through stories and wonder if it's a poem or a story. And, of course, the other way around.

Mick

 

[Savage Kitten]

ahem.....

How about.. a poetry slam... in the BB chat forum? Could post a specific date and time. Who ever wanted to could show up... read a couple poems.. discuss them... etc....

As far as I can tell the chat isn't used all too often...

What ya think?

 

[Savage Kitten]

also....

if it was to get more organized.. you could have poets assigned to read their work on particular nights... maybe have those interested PM (someone) in advance and let them know what night they would like to do it

 

[Unmasked Poet]

Mick,
I understand your argument and it is well stated. I try to maintain the threads I started without adding new ones. But imagine the chaos if fifty member poets or fans had something to say?

Or for that matter fifty writers or fans.

Well your a mod, use your significant influence.

U.P.

 

[KillerMuffin]

Okay, UP, I did.

 

[Mickie]

My influence is significant only because of the amount of annoyance I can generate.

However, I think the chat idea is a good one. I can picture all the poets with microphones, berets, and classy drinks.

It isn't a bad idea for the story writers, either, to tell the truth. Something to think about.

Mickie

 

[daughter]

Whoa, let's keep this simple

Mickie--

There are only a few anal analytical poets buffs like me. What I think most folks want is to have more immediate and direct access to poetry and poets. Threads provide a continuous flow of comments to a particular poem. We were doing that already when someone promoted a poem or story. Only difference is that before, few folks responded to the promo thread.
What we're suggesting isn't radical.

Authors principally hang out in Aruthors Hangout and the poets are here.

Making threads clear is simple. Use the subject line. Example: My poem--POETRY The header can be used to clearly identify the content of the thread. We all know how to pass over threads that don't interest us.

As far as I'm concerned, poets are treated like stepchildren. What's the big deal that now we're vocal? Stories have 15 categories. We get, eh 2? We have multiple threads about stories, discussions, etc. in Author's Hangout.

This ain't that serious.

Peace,

daughter

 

[Mickie]

I'm not taking it as a critical problem, daughter. Far from it. Actually, I thought the poets might like a section of their own, instead of doing the step-child thing. Yeah, I know how to skip over threads if they're clearly labeled. However, look at the problem we have with newer authors not putting in a link even with Laurel's sticky at the beginning of the thread. Tell them to label and we'd still get a lot of "A Summer's Day by Sumeria". Can you tell it's a poem from that? Seriously, it's not that big of a deal, but I thought I'd just put up my two cents. Anyone who wants to take up the flame for it sure can. Anyone who decides it's not what they want to do can keep doing what they want to do. No skin off my nose.

Can ya tell I'm waiting on an email concerning something entirely different? I can't write when I'm waiting, so I come up with all kinds of silly ideas and annoy other people with them.

Has anyone actually answered KM's poetry thread? I'll look at it again. I'd be interested in the answers. I may not be a raving poet addict, but I do like the occassional rhyme. Hum -- There once was a man from Nantucket....

Mick

 

[daughter]

No skin, Sir

Mickie--

You and I often are on the same page though sometimes we don't realize it.

I'm not against a separate forum or focused discussion. My point is that I don't think most folks get as weird about poetry as I do.

Folks might fail to use the subject line correctly. I still think that is minor. No one seems annoyed when opening a thread about a story.

The recent fevor is new. Next week, poetry might be in the shadows again.

I've started on the answers for your reading pleasure, friend.
You know you could just one of mine, Mickie. I'm not Sharon Olds, but a sista occasionally hits a nice groove. LOL

Peace,

daughter

 

[Mickie]

Daughter -- I know we're on the same page. I have a dry sense of humor. It confuses some people. My college roommate told me I was the funniest person I knew.

I'll go check out the other thread. Thank you, from my bottom to my heart, for answering KM's astute questions.

Mick

 

[REDWAVE]

Anal buffs?

Personally, I think tigerjen must have been a bit looped when she posted.


I loved your description of yourself as an "anal analytical poets buff," daughter. Funny. But you never did answer my other question: Who wrote the greatest double sestina in the English language? O, & BTW, "ya damn skippy, muhfuh, the one time be totally wack" could be loosely translated in standard English as "Indubitably, my good fellow, the police are totally evil."


Anyway, I think the idea of a poetry discussion circle is a good one, and I think daughter would be a good person to moderate it. Anal analytical poets buffs of the world, unite! You have nothing to lose but your anal retentiveness!


P.S.-- Here's an easier one. You mentioned the villanelle, daughter-- a form that originated in France-- what's the greatest villanelle in the English language?


I'm sure you know the answer to that one.

 

[tigerjen]

i was falling asleep when I posted yesterday

Redwave....
I was falling asleep at the computer yesterday morning
when i made my post on this thread...had come home
from doing the overnight shift at my job......heehehee...
yeah I was a bit looped but am doing better today

TJ