Please Read This!

[L.A. Wicker]

Dear Literotica members and writers, I need your help and support.
Recently my local newspaper did a story about my family and me needing help fixing my house up. Well, some shit-bird did a search of my name and found out that I write adult stories.
I’m being put down and called some pretty bad things. I need ‘EVERYONE’ to go to the newspaper site and post comments about freedom of speech and whatever you like. These people are not only putting me down, they putting down ‘all’ of you that write adult stories.
Read the story and PLEASE post your comments.
Please help!

http://www.thecitizen.com/node/10906

 

[snooper]

... These people are not only putting me down, they putting down ‘all’ of you that write adult stories. ...

I sympathise because there is now nothing you can do. The mistakes were to post stories under your real name, and to lie about your income.

It will make no difference whatever how many of us post on there, the "Kathleen"s of this world will never change, nor will they let their precious identities be known..

 

[Texguy84]

Incidentally, kudos to the guy on there calling folks on that little rule in the Bible against bearing false witness.

Also worth noting that the publisher of the newspaper is apparently starting to bear on Kathleen for the abusiveness of the posts.

 

[TheCaptain]

I don't really think this is a story idea, but I'll chip in anyway by saying...

What seems to be going on on that linked site is pretty pathetic, LA Wicker, and I sympathize. It's pretty much my top priority online though to keep my Lit identity seperate and segregated, to a certain degree, so that my privacy is protected as much as possible. Because you just can't be too careful on the web.

Revealing just as much information online as you feel comfortable sharing is definitely a cornerstone of safe net travelling. I'm terribly sorry for you that you got burned in this way. I wish you the best of luck in your endeavours.

Capt

 

[Fantasies_only]

Dear Literotica members and writers, I need your help and support.
Recently my local newspaper did a story about my family and me needing help fixing my house up. Well, some shit-bird did a search of my name and found out that I write adult stories.
I’m being put down and called some pretty bad things. I need ‘EVERYONE’ to go to the newspaper site and post comments about freedom of speech and whatever you like. These people are not only putting me down, they putting down ‘all’ of you that write adult stories.
Read the story and PLEASE post your comments.
Please help!

http://www.thecitizen.com/node/10906

What I wanna know is why the author (or editor) of the trailer article, thought it was necessary to add "off the record" comments about you writing erotica/porn stories.
Where were his ethics?
If Webmasters aren't even supposed to share your IP, why would he do such a thing?

 

[Fantasies_only]

There are no children

in the stories that are on Lit. There are no children in the stories on other sites either, as far as I can find- teenagers over the age of consent, but no children. It's not my category, and I don't bother with reading them, but several of the Litizens skimed through to do a double-check. No one under 18 in anythign there. The rumor, which I won't swear to, is that one story, somewhere, that someone saw, has a 16 year old, consenual female partner. *shrugs* You would have to go look for yourself.

First of all, she was 15, not 16, but all that happened was a voyeuristic description of nudity and various stages of undress until she turned 18.
Her current age was never mentioned, so you are supposed to imagine her at 18 (3 years of erections).

One thing I noticed here, is that there are more stories of son and mother together than father and daughter, all of which are 18 or over.
Nobody complains about this, but when a young girl has sex, that's something completely different.

PS: Stories of children in sexual situations cannot be hosted on Lit, however, a link to the story of this type may be found here, and in that case, the link should go to the homepage of that site.

Edit:
It turns out, L.A. Wicker is a swinger, one who regularly has consensual sex with another couple.
Although I think this lifestyle is immoral, I don't feel anything is wrong with the people who choose to live this way.

Swingers have rules to their lifestyle, one of which is no-one under 18 can enter a club or even watch a sexual performance.
Health issues are also addressed, and swingers take careful precautions.
Note to swingers: Nothing is full-proof, so don't advertise that it is completely harmless.

 

[BedtimeStories77]

Frankly, I wonder what this thread in Lit's Story Ideas is supposed to do or how/why other people posting comments on that site will accomplish anything. Freedom of speech applies to all, not just few. You may not like what others posted on that web site, but why are your freedoms "more important" than theirs? As Snooper said, maybe it wasn't wise to use your real name as a Lit author's name...

 

[bronntanas]

Frankly, I wonder what this thread in Lit's Story Ideas is supposed to do or how/why other people posting comments on that site will accomplish.

Or the BDSM forums. I mean, spamming the forums pissed off enough people that some people didn't even bother opening the link.

The thing is, LA, I feel for you, because they're making your life a living hell, but dude, you used your real name! That was a bit unwise. It's like a person who leaves their car unlocked and it gets stolen. The car thieves are wrong for stealing your car, but you're the one who didn't secure your belongings, so you have some culpability in the act. That being said, writing about incest does not necessarily mean you're a child molester and I hope you do go after the peeps who've libeled you.

 

[BedtimeStories77]

All of this did spark a curiosity within me. I checked his author's profile on Lit. It was recently updated with this whole "help me" thing copy/pasted. Then he went on to add that some of his writings are for sale online and "many common bookstores out there". Sounds to me like he's not too worried if he's using Lit to advertise the sale of his books.

 

[Texguy84]

Frankly, I wonder what this thread in Lit's Story Ideas is supposed to do or how/why other people posting comments on that site will accomplish anything. Freedom of speech applies to all, not just few. You may not like what others posted on that web site, but why are your freedoms "more important" than theirs? As Snooper said, maybe it wasn't wise to use your real name as a Lit author's name...

Well, I agree this really doesn't belong here in Story Ideas, but just for purposes of education, I just want to point out that in the US at least, Freedom of Speech ends when you get into certain realms, in this case Slander and Libel. You aren't free to say something bad about someone if it isn't true, and if you have no good reason to think it might be. Other limitations include screaming "Fire!" in a crowded movie theatre and "Fighting Words", something that is obviously meant to incur a violent response from someone (ie: Walking up to a guy in a bar and saying "Your sister is a filthy whore!" isn't protected under the 1st Ammendment).

But yeah, this did all start because he used his real name online, which should be avoided whenever possible.

 

[Ishikari_Dash]

i got a idea. how about you quit making lame stories.

 

[BedtimeStories77]

i got a idea. how about you quit making lame stories.

Well, hello spammer. When I looked at that man's author's page he did have a lot of Hs on his "lame" stories.

 

[Athena_e19]

Wow- - -

This is a disturbing disruption of someone's life. I can understand the value in keeping your name private and all that- its just plain safer that way. I give my first name and have used a misnomer last name for my entire time writing stories or engaging in anything which could compromise my future goals and ambitions.

However, I am disgusted by the hypocrisy exhibited by the people of this county and town. Does his writing erotic fiction, make his disability any less real? Most of the eighteen year olds on MySpace say they make 70,000 a year. Obviously, our economy isn't doing that well..... The guy put out a request for help that was justified and honest. It can't be easy humbling yourself like that in the public eye. I hope that some of the posters who rant against him are watching these conversations in our forums.

Anyone ever heard of the Oedipal complex? It seems to be my lightly educated viewpoint that most guys will have some sort of sexual attraction to their mothers. I know that my sister married a guy exactly like the man who raised us..... Just because she doesn't explore the reasoning behind it through erotic fiction does not make her a pervert. How many other examples of incest are available in society at large?

I'll bet my forefinger and middlefinger that a good portion of the men and women who posted negatively about LA Wicker neglected to mention their engaging in roleplaying fantasies or watching pornographic films depicting young cheerleaders, Catholic schoolgirls, football jocks, etc.

The biggest problem with our country is the resounding inability of people to separate actions. We have become a society of public persecution. Its the Salem witch trials all over again.

That being said- could we make this into a story idea?

 

[Texguy84]

OK, to turn this into a story idea and make it on-topic for the forum...

Hmm... maybe a family requests help from the community for repairing their house, maybe badly damaged in a storm or a break-in or something like that. It is soon revealed (perhaps even by the person who broke in the house?) that the family had a large collection of self-produced pornographic movies, and the community backlashes...

...uhm... stuff happens... (we can figure this step out later)

Then you have a big community wide gangbang, and everyone lives happily ever after!

In other words, the time-honored formula of:

1) Problem
2) ???
3) Profit!

 

[Athena_e19]

That middle ??? step is the important one.

If we wanted to really make this a story idea I would keep it as true as possible with some surprise additions.

Guy asks for help repairing home because of disability. Published in newspaper and his secret erotic fiction writing is revealed to the world. Lots of bashers. As the blogging investigation digs deeper they keep finding new stories that they say are his because of the remarkable similarity to his writing and life experience.

Turns out that it is one of his daughters that shares similar fantasies. The bloggers never catch on, but he does and we have the culminating sexual act. Perhaps one of the bloggers who has been bashing him (my pick would be Katherine), gets investigated by the daughter. Consequently some great dirt pops up and the daughter, who is engaged by now in a full blown sexual relationship with her father, forces Katherine to perform sex acts with the two of them.

Sorry, if this is a bit close to home for LA Wicker, but it is Story Ideas Forum.

 

[Katamari Roller]

You could also make it into a Sexual Role Play.



Yeah, that's me. Katamari Roller. My God, have you guys tried arguing with the cretins in that blog? Forget about Jesus saying we should forgive and forget, they go by the Old Testament interpretation of religion and we are all burning in hell for writing about sex.

(Who the hell goes with the Old Testament being a Christian, anyway? I sure don't.)

 

[Fantasies_only]

All of this did spark a curiosity within me. I checked his author's profile on Lit. It was recently updated with this whole "help me" thing copy/pasted. Then he went on to add that some of his writings are for sale online and "many common bookstores out there". Sounds to me like he's not too worried if he's using Lit to advertise the sale of his books.

I take it you are referring to Running Through Time, since so far I see no other books by him, although there may be some Japanese comics I don't know about.

Someone else pointed out that his book can be purchased on the Web.
Note: Amazon.com has a strict 18+ policy for purchasing adult books.

I just surfed by an incest story by him, which included a 16 year old having sexual relations with her dad, relations meaning non physical semi-sexual themes, such as erotic teasing with provocative clothing.

I could not read the full story, but she did have a birthday.
Whether it was 1 more year or 2 I don't know, but I do know fiction is a release that prevents the urge to do something from happening.

 

[Fantasies_only]

Sorry, I didn't realize we were getting back on topic.

Man and woman get married.
Woman can't get pregnant, needs sperm doner.
Stranger divorces his wife, and rents old fix-up shack.
Woman answers ad for roommate, but has other ideas.
Tricked into unnecessary sex, stranger sees child grown up, and wants to have sex with her.

You can see where this is going.

 

[snooper]

... but I do know fiction is a release that prevents the urge to do something from happening.

Does that apply to all fiction?

Do the writers of slushy romances all need to repress a wish to love somebody?

Do the writers of crime fiction all need to repress a wish to murder someone?

Do the writers of Sci-Fi all need to repress a wish to become astronauts?

I write BDSM novels mostly based in a fictional 21st century feudal state. I can assure you that this is the result of a decision to enter a profitable niche market; and I have neither experience of, nor a wish to, spank or whip anyone.

 

[Texguy84]

Does that apply to all fiction?

Do the writers of slushy romances all need to repress a wish to love somebody?

Do the writers of crime fiction all need to repress a wish to murder someone?

Do the writers of Sci-Fi all need to repress a wish to become astronauts?

I write BDSM novels mostly based in a fictional 21st century feudal state. I can assure you that this is the result of a decision to enter a profitable niche market; and I have neither experience of, nor a wish to, spank or whip anyone.

Probably a better way to phrase what Fantasies Only said is that it provides an Outlet. Sometimes it's to give you a chance to explore things you'll never get to do, other times to just vent and release things you *don't* want to do.

Sci-fi writers, in most cases, will never become astronauts. That doesn't mean we can't have fun WRITING about them. Stephen Coonts, a retired Navy bomber pilot, wrote a book about a bomber pilot going on a renegade bombing mission to Hanoi during the Vietnam War (which Lieutenant Coonts presumably never did).

Several stories that I have written for Lit were me venting sexual frustation, as well as dealing with some very negative feelings towards various girls I know. Doesn't mean I particularly WANT any of the things in my stories to actually happen (actually, I wouldn't mind the massage story happening, wouldn't mind that one bit).

 

[Fantasies_only]

Man and woman get married.
Woman can't get pregnant, needs sperm doner.
Stranger divorces his wife, and rents old fix-up shack.
Woman answers ad for roommate, but has other ideas.
Tricked into unnecessary sex, stranger sees child grown up, and wants to have sex with her.

Anyone care to comment?
This would be quite interesting as an incest twist.
Although this man is not the one who raised the girl, she came from his sperm, as if he were the biological father.

I just thought of something else.
What if sterility in females repeated with each birth, then the process would start over again.
One can imagine the man who raised this child, having sex with her child, etc.

 

[snooper]

Man and woman get married.
Woman can't get pregnant, needs sperm doner.
Stranger divorces his wife, and rents old fix-up shack.
Woman answers ad for roommate, but has other ideas.
Tricked into unnecessary sex, stranger sees child grown up, and wants to have sex with her.
Anyone care to comment?

and then:

This would be quite interesting as an incest twist.
Although this man is not the one who raised the girl, she came from his sperm, as if he were the biological father.

I just thought of something else.
What if sterility in females repeated with each birth, then the process would start over again.
One can imagine the man who raised this child, having sex with her child, etc.

I'm a bit lost. If the female is sterile (as implied by the last bit) how does a sperm donor help?
If it is true that she came from his sperm then he is the biological father.

Correction, I am very lost.

 

[Texguy84]

I'm a bit lost. If the female is sterile (as implied by the last bit) how does a sperm donor help?
If it is true that she came from his sperm then he is the biological father.

Correction, I am very lost.

OK, maybe not sterility, but more like a resistance, like how your body builds a resistance to various diseases through exposure. So the wife builds a resistance to her husband's sperm, but wants more kids, so she finds herself a stud.

 

[emap]

I was to until I thought about it a minute. Eeerrrmmmm, make that 10-15 minutes.

Anyway, what fantasies is talking about is say a woman marries a guy who doesn't work to well in the baby making area, gets it up but packing blanks so to speak. So the wife sees an ad for a roommate goes to him, becomes his roommate then screws him until she is pregnate then goes back to hubby and his blanks. Say for the ease of avoiding the why don't they just questions, they can't afford it.

So then 18 years later her daughter from the roommate moves out and he is looking for a roommate again. They shack up and he screws the daughter who is the fruit of his loins but neither knows it until mom drops by to say hi and sees him. For an even funner turn of it, daughter is already pregnate, mom walks in on them doing the celebration screwing. Can have her join in to, though that one never really makes sense to me.

I mean come on, if I had a daughter and I walked in on her screwing her father, or well screwing anybody, sex with them both is about the farthest thing from my mind, well maybe if she is doing Vin Deisel.

 

[Athena_e19]

I love the whole surprise of the fact that they are having incest. I think it is semi-realistic, and kind of a great character developer. Does the guy blow his load as soon as he hears the mother say that he is the father? They keep fucking? Did the daughter find out before and keep it quiet.