Pipe Bomber letter: something smells of rancid governemnt planning

[Todd-'o'-Vision]

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Mailboxes are exploding! Why, you ask?

Attention people,

You do things because you can and want (desire) to.

If the government controls what you want to do, they control what you can do.

If you are under the impression that death exists, and you fear it, you do anything to avoid it. (This is the same way pain operates. Naturally we strive to avoid negative emotion/pain.)

You allow yourself to fear death!

World authorities allowed, and still allow you to fear death!



In avoiding death you are forced to conform, if you fail to conform, you suffer mentally and physically. (Are world powers utilizing the natural survival instinct in a way that allows them to capitalize on the people?)

To "live" (avoid death) in this society you are forced to conform/slave away.

I’m here to help you realize/understand that you will live no matter what! It is up to you people to open your hearts and minds. There is no such thing as death. The people I’ve dismissed from this reality are not all dead.

Conforming to the boundaries, and restrictions imposed by the government only reduces the substance in your lives. When 1% of the nation controls 99% of the nations total wealth, is it a wonder why there are control problems?

The United States strives to provide freedom for their people. Do we really have personal freedom? I’ve lived here for many years, and I see much limitation. Does the definition of freedom include limitation? I’ve learned about the history of various civilizations in history, and I see more and more limitation. Do you people enjoy this trend of limitation? If not, change it!

As long as you are uninformed about death you will continue to say "how high", when the government tells you to "jump." As long as the government is uninformed about death they will continue tell you to "jump." Is the government uninformed about death, or are they pretending?

You people have been missing how things are, for very long. I’m obtaining your attention in the only way I can. More info is on its way. More "attention getters" are on the way. If I could, I would change only one person, unfortunately the resources are not accessible. It seems killing a single famous person would get the same media attention as killing numerous un-famous humans. There is less risk of being detained, associated with dismissing certain people.

Sincerely,

Someone Who Cares

PS. More info. Will be delivered to various locations around the country.

Knowledge is power.

Reading that letter doesn't sound like an average individual.

It smells of Timothy Mcviegh Governement invovlement.

It smells and reads like an army pscychologist trying to do a plant against patriot movement.

Any one notice the 3 key phrases in there from three seperate patriot shortwave radio talk hosts?

It smells of a plant to have the newest terrorist laws implimented harder and faster.

 

[Todd-'o'-Vision]

OMAHA, Nebraska (CNN) -- Federal authorities charged a 21-year-old college student Tuesday in connection with a five-day spree of pipe bomb incidents from Illinois to Texas that injured six people and prompted a manhunt across the heartland of the country.

Luke John Helder, who just turned 21 on Sunday, was arrested at 4:54 Tuesday afternoon (7:54 p.m. ET) near Reno, Nevada, after state highway patrol officers stopped his car and persuaded him to surrender without incident. He was then turned over to federal authorities. He is being held at the Washoe County Jail in Reno.

The U.S. attorney in Cedar Rapids, Iowa, charged Helder with two criminal counts.

One count charges him with using an explosive to maliciously destroy property affecting interstate commerce. The other accuses him of using a destructive device to commit a crime of violence that wounded a woman when she opened her roadside mailbox in rural Tipton, Iowa.

If convicted, Helder would face up to 40 years in prison on count one and up to a life sentence on count two, said James Bogner, FBI special agent in charge for Iowa and Nebraska.

Bogner said a federal complaint also was being sought in the northern district of Illinois.

The FBI identified the suspect on the basis of a letter he sent from Omaha, Nebraska, to the Badger Herald -- a student publication of the University of Wisconsin at Madison.

The letter was sent Friday, the day the first of the 18 pipe bombs in Illinois and Iowa was discovered. Other bombs were found in Nebraska in subsequent days.

Helder was a student at the University of Wisconsin at Stout and a member of a three-person rock band called "Apathy," investigators said.

The Herald said it turned the letter over to the FBI Tuesday afternoon.

This prompted an all-points bulletin from the FBI seeking Helder for questioning. The FBI alert described Helder as "armed and dangerous" and said he was driving a car with Minnesota plates.

The bulletin was issued the day after the most recent bomb was found Monday afternoon in a curbside mailbox in a residential area of Amarillo, Texas, with a note containing "anti-government propaganda" attached.

In his letter to the school paper, Helder said, "I will die/change in the end for this, but that's ok, hahaha paradise awaits! I'm dismissing a few individuals from reality, to change all of you for the better, surely you can understand my logic."

The letter was titled, "Explosions! A Bit of Evidence for You!"

Monday's incident in Texas raised to 18 the number of pipe bombs found since last Friday. Six people were injured in explosions from the first bombs in Illinois and Iowa.

The devices were cylindrical, about 6 inches long, three-quarters of an inch in diameter with wires attached to a 9-volt battery.

According to federal investigators, three mailbox bombs were found in Illinois, five in Iowa, eight in Nebraska, one in Colorado and one in Texas.

All the bombs were accompanied by letters full of anti-government rhetoric.

At an afternoon news conference in Omaha, the FBI showed a picture of Helder -- clean-shaven and smiling with short-cropped hair and wearing a white shirt and tie -- and asked that he turn himself in.

Authorities described Helder as "an intelligent young man with strong family ties."

Earlier Tuesday, Helder's father, Cameron Helder, issued an emotional appeal to his son to turn himself in.

"Luke is not a dangerous person. He is just trying to make a statement," the elder Helder told reporters. The father added, choking back tears at times:

"Luke, you need to talk to someone. Please don't hurt anyone else. It's time to talk. You have the attention you wanted. We love you very much. We want you home safe. Please call."

Jennifer Klement, a spokeswoman for the University of Wisconsin-Stout at Menomonie, said Helder is registered there as a junior.

She said Helder, whose home is in Pine Island, Minnesota, was majoring in art with a concentration in industrial design. The university, which is just west of Eau Claire, had no record of disciplinary problems involving Helder.

This is the last week of classes at the state institution, which has about 8,000 students. Final exams are scheduled next week.

http://i.cnn.net/cnn/2002/US/05/07/mailbox.pipebombs/vert.helder.jpg

 

[Todd-'o'-Vision]

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*editted out was supposed to be a reply in another thread got to excited april is a hot phone girl you should hear her with a german luger

 

[RTWudder]

Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get me.

 

[Problem Child]

Reading that letter doesn't sound like an average individual.

Duh. Average individuals don't put bombs in mailboxes.

It smells of Timothy Mcviegh Governement invovlement.

Please provide the proof of "Governement invovlement" in the McVeigh case.

Didn't think you could.

It smells and reads like an army pscychologist trying to do a plant against patriot movement.

What the fuck do you know about army psychologists?

Exactly. Nothing.

Any one notice the 3 key phrases in there from three seperate patriot shortwave radio talk hosts?

No, because I don't listen to that stuff. Do you? Maybe he does, and that's where he got it. I don't think that's too far a stretch.

It smells of a plant to have the newest terrorist laws implimented harder and faster.

Yeah, I agree. The perfect plan to get these draconian laws passed is start blowing up mailboxes and blame it on a college student. Not a White Supremacy Group, or some terrorist group, but a lone college student. Perfect plan.

And they would never think of trying to prevent such actions and using the lack of terrorist acts as a selling point at re-elction time for how they are doing a good job of protecting the country, would they?

You're off the deep end, Todd. Seek help.

 

[harleyhog]

DAMN,,,,,,,,,,pc ,,,couldnot have said that better myself.

Todd -----take your head out of your ass and smell the roses

 

[Todd-'o'-Vision]

Re: Re: Pipe Bomber letter: something smells of rancid governemnt planning

It smells of Timothy Mcviegh Governement invovlement.

Please provide the proof of "Governement invovlement" in the McVeigh case.

Didn't think you could.

Watch it online 2 hours 24 mintues

Download it and watch offline


this film has the government paperwork signed by clinton and other fbi and cia agents, it has all the documentation.

but the last time i offered you to watch the evidence you gliberally did your usual and dismissed it.

It has all the paper trail, news reels, reciepts, training records, bank accounts etc needed.

 

[phrodeau]

Re: Re: Re: Pipe Bomber letter: something smells of rancid governemnt planning

Watch it online 2 hours 24 mintues

Download it and watch offline


this film has the government paperwork signed by clinton and other fbi and cia agents, it has all the documentation.

but the last time i offered you to watch the evidence you gliberally did your usual and dismissed it.

It has all the paper trail, news reels, reciepts, training records, bank accounts etc needed.

Is this film directed by Oliver Stone, or does Leonard Nimoy narrate it? Only the best in conspiracy edutainment for me.

 

[Sateema Lunasi]

Todd, honey

http://dailynews.netscape.com/dailynews/cnn/story_2.tmpl?story=2002050819055001240409&shortdate=0508

 

[Problem Child]

The confession was coerced.

The bombs and bomb-making materials were planted.

It's all a conspiracy to allow THE NEW WORLD ORDER to take over the U.S. and tear up the constitution. They are printing posters of Khofi Annan as we speak.

See Todd, you don't even have to post, I can do it for you!

BTW, on a 56K modem, I don't have the luxury of having my computer run like a salamander stuck in molasses for 10 1/2 hrs while I wait for your conspiracy drivel to pollute my hard drive, and I don't feel the compunction to watch some psychotic fear-mongering for two hours while realplayer sits there and rebuffers.

I guess I'll just have to wait for it to play on 60 Minutes. Unless of course they're controlled by THE NEW WORLD ORDER or the Blood-sucking Jewish lobby, take your pick.

Then I guess the world will never know the truth.

 

[Spinaroonie]

Please provide the proof of "Governement invovlement" in the McVeigh case.

1. The fact that many structural engineers have come forth and said that the trype of destruction caused on the Federal Building is incredibly atypical.

2. The fact that every whitness said that they heard two explosions, yet the gov't only says there was one.

3. The fact that the ATF showed up within 15 minutes, when it takes 30-45 minutes to put on the uniforms they were wearing.

4. The head of the ATF checked into an Oklahoma City hotel at 9 AM that morning according to his credit card statement (the card was NEVER reported stolen). That contradicts the story that he told of being so heartbroken and wanting to do anything he could and driving 100 MPH+ from Dallas up to OKC to "look for survivors".

5. The FBI provides a tape of John Doe #2 exiting the Ryder truck after McVeigh supposedly exits. Later, the FBI claims that John Doe #2 "does not exist".

6. The Gov't took all the security camera footage from buildings across the street and nearby to "use in the trial". That footage was never used in the trial, because if it had been, it would have had to have been entered into the public record.

I could give you links, but you're just going to disregard them as lunacy. "No, No, the government is my friend! They would never do something to hurt the American people, even tho' that the US Gov't has the legal ability to use chemical and biological attacks against the people and not other gov'ts... AND that the gov't made it illegal for the US gov't to harbor biological weapons... yet when the Anthrax is traced back to US Military plants, it's ok. No Problem! The government is my friend! Mmmmm boy do I love the taste of tap water! Boo terrorists! By waving this flag that I bought at Wal-Mart, I show that I don't think that tyranny is a good thing!"

 

[Spinaroonie]

Re: Re: Re: Pipe Bomber letter: something smells of rancid governemnt planning

Watch it online 2 hours 24 mintues

Download it and watch offline


this film has the government paperwork signed by clinton and other fbi and cia agents, it has all the documentation.

but the last time i offered you to watch the evidence you gliberally did your usual and dismissed it.

It has all the paper trail, news reels, reciepts, training records, bank accounts etc needed.

I'm glad that somebody watched that film.