Physical, or Memories?

[Fly_On_Wall]

Let's take a situation here. You are madly in love with someone, you spend everyday with them, they are a part of you, who you are.

Now an accedent takes them from you, It wasn't there time to go but they are gone. I'm a genie and I tell you I can bring them back but at a great cost. Memories.

If I bring them back they will be alive and can experiance life again. But they will have no memory of who your are or anything that happened between you two. Also slowly all your memorys will fad, you will have them for a while but one by one they will fade away for as long as that person lives, a memory a day.

Now the question.
1) Would you tell the genie to keep them dead so you can keep your memory of them?

2) Would you Tell the genie to bring them back to life so they can live again, and you can see them for one last time before all your memorys fade (despite the fact that they have none of you).

now if you choose 1 do you think that is selfish just to keep the memory of them you won't give them life?
or if you picked 2 how would you react? you know they don't know you but would you go after them? try to start over what you had lost? or would the fact that your memorys are draining from you cause you to do something drastic and kill them so you could keep whatever memroies are left?

There is no right or wrong answer here remeber. and if anyone yells at you, or condems you for your answer they can fuck off.

 

[estevie]

I choose option #1. Let them stay dead and I'll keep my memories. I don't think it is selfish. I believe that when a person dies it is because their purpose for being here has been accomplished, it's time for them to go. It is not for me to decide someones fate. I would keep the memories of the love we shared. Without memories...nothing truly exists.

 

[lobito]

my first response would honestly be, "fuck off Genie!".

then after thinking for a moment, I'd ask if there's any chance that we were going to get back together. And if you were able to tell me satisfactorially, that we would be, then I'd say bring her back so we can make NEW memories. Then I'd go get my video camera, and start reciting to the camera, all the memories I have of our past life together.

 

[pyramider]

There is a wisdom why death is final. Without memories we have no experience and without memories and experience there is no joy.
I would tell the genie to leave well alone and try to enjoy life. It is the responsibility of the living to continue to live. I believe an individual being is bigger when part of a greater totality. Even dear parted ones are alive as long as we carry their memories. What kind of life would I be giving them (him/her) without them knowing who their loved ones are. Death is not the worst thing that could happen to us; it is life without meaning or joy.

 

[pyramider]

Very thought provoking though, thanks.

 

[patient1]

That's a no-brainer! (either way , I'd lose my mind )

It's always about her, as far as I'm concerned.

I'd bring her back,if it wasn't her time. That would be best for her, even if I still lost her.

Sure, either way it's emotionally painful.

 

[Fly_On_Wall]

my first response would honestly be, "fuck off Genie!".

then after thinking for a moment, I'd ask if there's any chance that we were going to get back together. And if you were able to tell me satisfactorially, that we would be, then I'd say bring her back so we can make NEW memories. Then I'd go get my video camera, and start reciting to the camera, all the memories I have of our past life together.

lobito sorry can't do that man.

I got this question after I watched a cartoon (forget the name but it was good) a girl gives up her imortality to be with this boy. he ends up giveing his life to save her. she used a special power to bring him back to life. but as a result he had no memory of her and her memorys were fadeing. as the memory went so did everything else. Pictures of the two, he was disapearing from, gifts were fading into non existance.

now at the end of the cartoon he get's his memorys back and they share a last second together before she fades away forever.

so see if you vidiotaped your memories... they would be gone as well.

 

[seulreveur]

I would definately treasure the memories and let him go... I would never take on the responsibility of someone else's fate.

 

[lobito]

In that case Fly, don't bother bringing her back. I, like many others, would prefer the memories with her, if only for our own selfish reasons.

If it wasn't for long-ago memories, I wouldn't have married my wife.

 

[Guest]

 

[JennyOmanHill]

I choose option #1. Let them stay dead and I'll keep my memories. I don't think it is selfish. I believe that when a person dies it is because their purpose for being here has been accomplished, it's time for them to go. It is not for me to decide someones fate. I would keep the memories of the love we shared. Without memories...nothing truly exists.

Thank you estevie for expressing my feelings on this matter. Many people pass on before their time (in our minds, anyway), and I think it would be more selfish of me to bring my loved one back than it would be to let him be at a better place.

 

[Desdemona]

Death is not our enemy; its just a transition to something else. I don't get to choose when anyone dies and I wouldn't bring the person back. We all die at the right time.

 

[LukkyKnight]

Death is not our enemy; its just a transition to something else. I don't get to choose when anyone dies and I wouldn't bring the person back. We all die at the right time.

Is it, perhaps, a horizon? There are those who say death is merely a point we cannot see beyond.

 

[Desdemona]

Is it, perhaps, a horizon? There are those who say death is merely a point we cannot see beyond.

Very nicely put. LK


Now go get yourself a Hobbit name! Love, Orangeblossom

 

[LukkyKnight]

not to hijack the thread or anything

Very nicely put. LK


Now go get yourself a Hobbit name! Love, Orangeblossom

Can't, have to stick to pondering the limits of our perceptions. When I put in my name it says "Choose wiser." which I know is not a hobbit name.

 

[Desdemona]

Re: not to hijack the thread or anything

Can't, have to stick to pondering the limits of our perceptions. When I put in my name it says "Choose wiser." which I know is not a hobbit name.

Excuses, excuses. Use your real name.

 

[Shy Tall Guy]

I would choose to have the person back, even if the memories are gone/fading.

Why? Because I have had enough people die who were close to me, and although people die every day (every second), the chance to give someone some extra time living that they would not otherwise have had, would be a precious gift that I would be happy to give them - especially if they were someone I loved.

I have seen enough tragedy and senseless dying, and I think that if someone could cheat death without compromising their principles, then the price would be worth it.

Losing the memory of someone would be a dear price to pay, but I think it would be worth it. As for them losing their memory of me, well, depending on your religious views, they didn't have that memory after they were dead anyway, did they, so for them, coming back from death is a positive thing regardless.

 

[Moridin187]

I'd choose to bring them back.. If I was that completely in love with someone, I'd know the world would be a better place for having them in it, and that maybe, even if we couldnt' remember eachother, she could make someone else as happy as she'd made me, and be happy herself.

 

[LukkyKnight]

Re: Re: not to hijack the thread or anything

Excuses, excuses. Use your real name.

I did, Orangedemona Des Bumblebubbles!


I've thought about this basic question for a long time, usually from the angle of "If you could spare somebody you love some - or all - of the pain from their past, would you?" My heart screams out yes, my head says no. I am an existentialist - they are the sum of their experiences, and although I'd've preferred they not have to endure the worst of the pain to be here now, they have travelled this precise course to become who they are. I will wish for no changes precisely because I like who they are.

So, do you bring somebody back? No. Work to shape the future, learn to accept what has passed.

 

[Karmic]

1: their dead. No relationship
2: their alive. No Relationship (probably).

Simple math.

 

[iceprincess]

 

[Guest]

Memories are our own personal paradise; even the Gods can not kick us out of there. I read two arguments for option two: They are based on the premise that soemthing is better than nothing. I did not watch the cartoon but it is intriguing how much we want to cheat death but we know deep down that the price would be too high to be unaffordable. I think in the basence of "eternal values" option two becames viable, at least mathematically. The assumption made to bring her back are flawed. The world might not be a better place with her back since without memory she is not who shae was, neither would I be. I end above alive but not knowing myself or my love.

The death of Dave Thomas is sad, but he lived till the last moment.
Nancy Reagan expressed deep regrets not being able to share the Memries with Ronald Reagan.
Anyone who deals with cases of Alzheimer will have a hard time with option two.

O my soul, do not aspire to immortal life, but
exhaust the limits of the possible..

I still go for option one

 

[pyramider]

The above was mine and sorry for the typos (no proof reading, too early) I don't know why I showed up as unregistered.
Oh my soul, do not aspire to immortal life, but
exhaust the limits of the possible

 

[MidnightAngel]

I have had someone I loved very much die of cancer. I don't think he was ready to die. Yes, I would bring him back. There was so much of life left for him to experience. My memories of him are very treasured, but I would give them up for a chance to allow him to resume his life. And the opportunity to look at him even one last time while I still remembered would be SO wonderful. *s*