Personal Heaven and Hell.
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I think we are pretty much in hell. I think this is one major testing ground and when you really fuck up and are one sick puppy... you continue your own personal hell after you die. If you manage to get thru decently here... you get to have a little free reign upstairs.. like make it your own space... whatever you want.. only, not too too bad things.
The higher power will evaluate your life with you etc etc.... and you get what you get. I also think that if you are truly rotten to the core... there you will stay when you meet up with Grim. Your own created hell. Childeren are the exception I should think. We have many excellent, beautiful things in this world.... and then we have the...not so beautiful.
well... that is what I think.. in a nut shell.
and I myself have a few things I'm gonna have to own up too, but I do think that the "higher power" has a sense of humor too.
I think we are pretty much in hell. I think this is one major testing ground and when you really fuck up and are one sick puppy... you continue your own personal hell after you die. If you manage to get thru decently here... you get to have a little free reign upstairs.. like make it your own space... whatever you want.. only, not too too bad things.
The higher power will evaluate your life with you etc etc.... and you get what you get. I also think that if you are truly rotten to the core... there you will stay when you meet up with Grim. Your own created hell. Childeren are the exception I should think. We have many excellent, beautiful things in this world.... and then we have the...not so beautiful. well... that is what I think.. in a nut shell.
and I myself have a few things I'm gonna have to own up too, but I do think that the "higher power" has a sense of humor too.
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If you mean the religious aspect.. don't look at me, I don't have no fukkin clue.. I lost my faith due to recent events.
Hell on Earth:
-Don't have enough money to pay all my bills and provide for our basic needs... possibly having car repo'd & electricity/phone shut off.
-On the verge of losing my mom.
-My kids hurt because they don't understand why their 'dad' doesn't want them.
-My "weight issues" when I was so thin only 2 years ago.
-Stress from work and their damn politics
(these are just a few.. to be brief)
Heaven on Earth:
I'll get back to you on that one. I have yet to experience true bliss.
Hell on Earth:
-Don't have enough money to pay all my bills and provide for our basic needs... possibly having car repo'd & electricity/phone shut off.
-On the verge of losing my mom.
-My kids hurt because they don't understand why their 'dad' doesn't want them.
-My "weight issues" when I was so thin only 2 years ago.
-Stress from work and their damn politics
(these are just a few.. to be brief)
Heaven on Earth:
I'll get back to you on that one. I have yet to experience true bliss.
Xander
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Personal Hell:
Since I have experienced true bliss, and what it feels like to be in the arms of someone who really cares. Hell is to be without it.
I dont really give a damn about the money in this sense. I always survive that, even if I live on the streets.
To me hell is being unloved, pure and simple.
Personal Heaven
To be loved, to feel the love from that one special woman, that manageed to get deeper inside you than any other....Since I've already experienced that....see Personal Hell
Since I have experienced true bliss, and what it feels like to be in the arms of someone who really cares. Hell is to be without it.
I dont really give a damn about the money in this sense. I always survive that, even if I live on the streets.
To me hell is being unloved, pure and simple.
Personal Heaven
To be loved, to feel the love from that one special woman, that manageed to get deeper inside you than any other....Since I've already experienced that....see Personal Hell
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There is no such thing as Heaven or Hell. Religion is a collection of myths made up by scared people grasping for an explanation of the world around them. They didn't have science, so they invented God(s). When we die, we return to the basic elements of the universe, not some mystical valhalla. There are no martyrs, or saints, or chosen people, only people who were once alive and aren't anymore.
Sorry for being so literal, but religion is the biggest sham ever perpetrated on man, by man, and lately it's been pissing me off.
Sorry for being so literal, but religion is the biggest sham ever perpetrated on man, by man, and lately it's been pissing me off.
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oh
that is what you meant. Guess I am soooo new.
I think... to each there own with regards to religion. No debate from me there. I thought I addressed the questioned posed here rather delicately myself.
I do agree with your thoughts Zander. Those thoughts are beautiful. There is much to be cherished about those we love and who love us. Unfortunately I have seen too many times the "bliss" fade... but yes, when it is there, it is awesome.
that is what you meant. Guess I am soooo new.
I think... to each there own with regards to religion. No debate from me there. I thought I addressed the questioned posed here rather delicately myself.
I do agree with your thoughts Zander. Those thoughts are beautiful. There is much to be cherished about those we love and who love us. Unfortunately I have seen too many times the "bliss" fade... but yes, when it is there, it is awesome.
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Yup, thats what I meant.
Now my personal (non religious) Heaven or Hell, is so different from a lot of other people.
Still I am saying that I have known Heaven. That I know what it feels like to be there.
And hell is now, when its not there anymore.
I dont give a damn about personal injury, death or sickness, I've already been there, and I fear it absolutely not.
Now my personal (non religious) Heaven or Hell, is so different from a lot of other people.
Still I am saying that I have known Heaven. That I know what it feels like to be there.
And hell is now, when its not there anymore.
I dont give a damn about personal injury, death or sickness, I've already been there, and I fear it absolutely not.
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Xander said:
I knew that. I just wanted to try and hijack another thread.
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Not a bad description. Although I have been there and done that and I don't think that is it either - that is more like Purgatory or better yet Limbo; a place of nothingness. However, some Christian theology suggests that Hell is just that; being without God's love - so maybe being unloved by others (man or woman) is what Hell is.
But I don't think so as I have been worse places; like being able to see into Heaven, but not to be allowed in - that is worse. But that is still not Hell - as while it is miserable I can take it and still continue on.
I do know, the worst I have experienced is to see people I love hurt and/or hurting, and not be able to do anything about it - that comes close to Hell for me. Somehow I suspect there is worse - but I haven't seen it yet.
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I agree with PC. That happens a lot. Maybe I offer up that week of...ouch, Manu! Let go of my ear!
Personal Heaven
A house on a bluff overlooking the ocean, with at least 10 acres of land. Redwoods, deer, serenity. Open floor plan with hardwood floors. Gourmet kitchen with an island. Big windows to take in the view. Fireplaces in the master bedroom and the living room. Jacuzzi tub in the master bathroom. Walks on the beach every morning without having to drive there. Breakfast on the patio. Barbecue on summer evenings. Peace, quiet, and no one but me, my man, and my kits.
Personal Hell
Working in an office surrounded by other people for 8-12 hours a day for the next 40 years, with some obnoxious coworker who insists on telling me about her sexual conquests in lurid detail. A boss who works the crap out of me, but doesn't respect a thing I do. In other words, my old job.
Personal Heaven
A house on a bluff overlooking the ocean, with at least 10 acres of land. Redwoods, deer, serenity. Open floor plan with hardwood floors. Gourmet kitchen with an island. Big windows to take in the view. Fireplaces in the master bedroom and the living room. Jacuzzi tub in the master bathroom. Walks on the beach every morning without having to drive there. Breakfast on the patio. Barbecue on summer evenings. Peace, quiet, and no one but me, my man, and my kits.
Personal Hell
Working in an office surrounded by other people for 8-12 hours a day for the next 40 years, with some obnoxious coworker who insists on telling me about her sexual conquests in lurid detail. A boss who works the crap out of me, but doesn't respect a thing I do. In other words, my old job.
good topic here
nice to indulge in a bit of fantasy here and there.
My personal heaven, reminds me of the song "personal jesus",
would be not having to work ever again, and making my dream of sealing myself into a bunker with all that I would ever need come to fruition.
Hell...my personal vison of hell
people..having to deal with people,
people with bad children especially
running out of my "medicine", that really is hell, no doubt about it.
Continuing to live with this untenable situation
nice to indulge in a bit of fantasy here and there.
My personal heaven, reminds me of the song "personal jesus",
would be not having to work ever again, and making my dream of sealing myself into a bunker with all that I would ever need come to fruition.
Hell...my personal vison of hell
people..having to deal with people,
people with bad children especially
running out of my "medicine", that really is hell, no doubt about it.
Continuing to live with this untenable situation
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Personal Hell:
Going to my parents house to sort out the chaos
Personal Heaven
Having a home, and the people I love to share it with
Going to my parents house to sort out the chaos
Personal Heaven
Having a home, and the people I love to share it with
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Personal Heaven: Having the freedom to learn, and expirience new things without the pressures of reality to get in the way. Also, knowing that there is a good friend who I can rely on, and who I can be there for.
Personal Hell: Not knowing how to help a friend who I see in pain, knowing that someone I held dear betrayed me, and knowing that no matter what I do, I'm not going to earn respect that I hope I deserve in a place that I care about and work my ass off for.
Personal Hell: Not knowing how to help a friend who I see in pain, knowing that someone I held dear betrayed me, and knowing that no matter what I do, I'm not going to earn respect that I hope I deserve in a place that I care about and work my ass off for.
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Personal heaven was the 17 years I had with my son, even though it wasn't always easy.
Personal hell has been the last 2 years without him & the thought of how long it will be until I see him again.
Personal hell has been the last 2 years without him & the thought of how long it will be until I see him again.
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Personal Heaven:
Freedom. Personal "space". Not being penned in by anything or anyone.
Personal Hell: Being in a situation where I don't have the above. Living in a fishbowl...where everything I say or do is scrutinized.
Freedom. Personal "space". Not being penned in by anything or anyone.
Personal Hell: Being in a situation where I don't have the above. Living in a fishbowl...where everything I say or do is scrutinized.
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I don't care if it pisses some of you off or not. I believe in Heaven and Hell in the traditional, religious sense. I believe in God. I believe Satan exists. I believe in the perpetual battle between good and evil. It is a battle I don't intend to lose.
I believe there are others like me here, they may just be afraid to speak up and be flamed for their beliefs. Flame away. If the early Christians could face the lions, I can face the Lit bb. There isn't anything any of you can say to shake my faith anyway, so in the end, I still win.
No wonder so many people aren't happy during the Christmas season. It must really irritate you to see happy people, spending advent waiting for the celebration of the birth of Christ. That is the point of Christmas, after all. Joy to the World! And to all of you.
I believe there are others like me here, they may just be afraid to speak up and be flamed for their beliefs. Flame away. If the early Christians could face the lions, I can face the Lit bb. There isn't anything any of you can say to shake my faith anyway, so in the end, I still win.
No wonder so many people aren't happy during the Christmas season. It must really irritate you to see happy people, spending advent waiting for the celebration of the birth of Christ. That is the point of Christmas, after all. Joy to the World! And to all of you.
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Personal Hell:
When senseless deaths surround you. Watching in horror as stupid, little things take a loved one from this earth. Constant sorrow, burials and that feeling of 'whats going to happen next?' That is my personal hell.
Personal Heaven:
The only time I've ever been able to leave the pain of the world behind was sitting on top of Fort Holmes on Mackinac Island after a 14 hour day. I listened to my favorite classical pieces and let everything but the sound go. I felt alive, whole and happy.
When senseless deaths surround you. Watching in horror as stupid, little things take a loved one from this earth. Constant sorrow, burials and that feeling of 'whats going to happen next?' That is my personal hell.
Personal Heaven:
The only time I've ever been able to leave the pain of the world behind was sitting on top of Fort Holmes on Mackinac Island after a 14 hour day. I listened to my favorite classical pieces and let everything but the sound go. I felt alive, whole and happy.
