Perinigrator: RE: Your question about Hillary

[*******]

I hope I got the handle right. I am an idiot.

I got the Ed Klein book early yestrday evening and read it from cover to cover. It is spell-binding, it reads like fiction. I highly recommend you read it. It will answer all your questions in spades.

One tidbit: Bill probably didn't inhale. He and Hillary preferred her friend's hash brownies. But that will never be looked into with the fastidiousness that Bush's alleged cocaine use has been looked into...



Actually, you don't have to believe that or any other tawdry thing in the book. It does present one over-riding theme: A woman who will do anything, accept any humilation and stab anyone in the back to be president. Once she found out she couldn't be an astronaut, it became her number one goal in life.

Fascinating stuff, highly documented, a MUST read.

Today I start on "My Country verses Me" by Won Ho Lee. Got if fer a doller at the doller store...

 

[Ishmael]

I've read some excerpts and the reviews of course. I tend to fall into the Dick Morse camp on this one bro.

There's ample ammunition to use against Hillary without delving into some of the sordid tidbits that Klein dredged up. Kleins book gives her 'victim' status and allows her to basically ignore attacks as being nothing more than more "right wing conspiracy" driven BS. (Even though Klein is far from the right.)

I agree with your, and Kleins, assesment of her character. But that could've been arrived at without dragging her sex life (or non-sex life) into the picture. She's very Nixonian. More Nixon than Nixon in some respects. Nixon took the fall for his friends (especially Mitchell), if he'd stabbed a few in the back he wouldn't have had to resign.

Just my take.

Ishmael

 

[*******]

I beg to disagree.

He tells the tale of how she assumed the mantle of victim in order to get elected and that tale cannot be told without covering the details and gossip that created that image.

I couldn't out the book down! I was up all night.

The exerpts, taken out of contexrt, do not do the book justice. I finished Magistre Ludi yesterday afternoon, and as much as I like Hesse's style, this book was actually a pleasure to read after wading through that tome.

I suggest you read it before becoming part of the right-wing analog feedback loop on this one.

 

[*******]

In short, haing read the book, no matter what party you identify with, it's hard to have any sympathy for the girl who used to hit her schoolmates in the face whenever she got mad.

 

[Ishmael]

I beg to disagree.

He tells the tale of how she assumed the mantle of victim in order to get elected and that tale cannot be told without covering the details and gossip that created that image.

I couldn't out the book down! I was up all night.

The exerpts, taken out of contexrt, do not do the book justice. I finished Magistre Ludi yesterday afternoon, and as much as I like Hesse's style, this book was actually a pleasure to read after wading through that tome.

I suggest you read it before becoming part of the right-wing analog feedback loop on this one.

*chuckle* Hesse is ponderous to be sure. But his style reflected the that of the other non-fiction/political/philosophical writers of the period. It can make for painful reading at times.

Nah, I'll stick to her political animal nature.

Ishmael

 

[*******]

Which, by the way, is the focal point of the book, not her pecidill, reck, pic, predelection...

Now, I knew Bill was a womanizer, but when it's laid out in print, one has to wonder, where in the hell did that horndawg find the time to bed ALL THOSE women! It's like a new woman on every page.

When Hillary said and wrote that she knew nothing of his indescretions, it was an out-and-out lie, but what the hell, she never sent in the troops, so it's not a bad thing.

Not only that, but her work in the Nixon case laid the groundwork for never, ever being able to impeach another President of the United States.

That came in handy in the long run! Fate is a funny, fickle thing in the best of times...

 

[Ishmael]

Which, by the way, is the focal point of the book, not her pecidill, reck, pic, predelection...

Now, I knew Bill was a womanizer, but when it's laid out in print, one has to wonder, where in the hell did that horndawg find the time to bed ALL THOSE women! It's like a new woman on every page.

When Hillary said and wrote that she knew nothing of his indescretions, it was an out-and-out lie, but what the hell, she never sent in the troops, so it's not a bad thing.

Not only that, but her work in the Nixon case laid the groundwork for never, ever being able to impeach another President of the United States.

That came in handy in the long run! Fate is a funny, fickle thing in the best of times...

I hear you and I don't disagree on the substance. I just feel it allows her to play the pathetically put upon victim to the "Queen for a Day" crowd. You know it's going to happen and you know it's going to work for many.

I still think it will give her a convenient refuge to retreat to when the political heat gets turned up.

Ishmael

 

[*******]

She was doing that well before the book...

It's a fire which needs no additional gasoline. It's like sending all the all the plutonium on earth to the sun to warm up Mars for future habitation.

 

[The Mutt]

I hope I got the handle right. I am an idiot.

I got the Ed Klein book early yestrday evening and read it from cover to cover. It is spell-binding, it reads like fiction. I highly recommend you read it. It will answer all your questions in spades.

One tidbit: Bill probably didn't inhale. He and Hillary preferred her friend's hash brownies. But that will never be looked into with the fastidiousness that Bush's alleged cocaine use has been looked into...



Actually, you don't have to believe that or any other tawdry thing in the book. It does present one over-riding theme: A woman who will do anything, accept any humilation and stab anyone in the back to be president. Once she found out she couldn't be an astronaut, it became her number one goal in life.

Fascinating stuff, highly documented, a MUST read.

Today I start on "My Country verses Me" by Won Ho Lee. Got if fer a doller at the doller store...

Nuff said.

 

[bg23]

Nuff said.

ahahahaha.

that caught your eye too, huh?

 

[The Mutt]

BUSH 'TOOK COCAINE AT CAMP DAVID'
And wife Laura liked dope, says book
By Emma Pryer
GEORGE W Bush snorted cocaine at Camp David, a new book claims.

His wife Laura also allegedly tried cannabis in her youth.

Author Kitty Kelley says in her biography The Family: The Real Story of the Bush Dynasty, that the US President first used coke at university in the mid-1960s.

She quotes his former sister-in-law Sharon Bush who claims: "Bush did coke at Camp David when his father was President, and not just once either."

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Ed Klien. Kitty Kelly. The giants of journalism.

Bill Clinton admitted smoking pot (in his half-assed weeny way).
George Bush has never actually denied snorting coke (in his smirking, 'betcha can't prove it' way).

 

[*******]

This from the crowd that loved the Burkett fax and the non-existant Downing Street memos, not to mention the Kitty Kelly book.

Why the hell do you think I started the thread?

I usually set up a Saturday Morning sandbag, but I guess you haven't been paying much attention to that.

In short, if it sounds bad about Bush, it has to be true, but if it sounds bad about Hillary, it's the "vast, right-wing conspiracy..."

 

[The Mutt]

I'd rather have a tough, driven, machiavellian, strap-on Lesbo as my President than the smirking, delusional, silver-spoon slacker who bends over for Dick Cheney and takes it without the lube.

 

[Ishmael]

This from the crowd that loved the Burkett fax and the non-existant Downing Street memos, not to mention the Kitty Kelly book.

Why the hell do you think I started the thread?

I usually set up a Saturday Morning sandbag, but I guess you haven't been paying much attention to that.

In short, if it sounds bad about Bush, it has to be true, but if it sounds bad about Hillary, it's the "vast, right-wing conspiracy..."

That's the way it works bro.

Ishmael

 

[*******]

Sharon Bush denied making those statements, but thank you for helping to highlight my point...



If Bush did drugs, he's not fit to lead. But if Hillary ate hash brownies it's a lie and Ed klien is no longer a credible journalist.

I guess, like Jason Blair, the Times made a huge error in employing the chap for so long...



Makes you wonder how many other mistakes they currently have on staff.

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[The Mutt]

This from the crowd that loved the Burkett fax and the non-existant Downing Street memos, not to mention the Kitty Kelly book.

Why the hell do you think I started the thread?

I usually set up a Saturday Morning sandbag, but I guess you haven't been paying much attention to that.

In short, if it sounds bad about Bush, it has to be true, but if it sounds bad about Hillary, it's the "vast, right-wing conspiracy..."

Now who's drinking the Kool Ade?

 

[*******]

Ignore the message, kill the messenger...

Bork him to death!

 

[*******]

Maybe Hillary will punch him out as per her proclivity...

Ahd pay to see that!

Besides, ya'll hate Bush's tough guy image, so why is Hillary's any better?

 

[*******]

Did you know that she lived with the gang from Tom Wolfe's "Electric Acid Kool-Aid Test?"

But she NEVER did drugs...

 

[The Mutt]

Sharon Bush denied making those statements, but thank you for helping to highlight my point...



If Bush did drugs, he's not fit to lead. But if Hillary ate hash brownies it's a lie and Ed klien is no longer a credible journalist.

I guess, like Jason Blair, the Times made a huge error in employing the chap for so long...



Makes you wonder how many other mistakes they currently have on staff.

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You are so busy stuffing words in my mouth you have completely missed my point. Ed Klien and Kitty Kelly are hacks who write porn. Nothing they say is to be believed about anybody.
I don't care if the President snorted coke, smoked weed, ate oxycontin like Pez or dissected cats in college.
I really don't care if he (or she) bangs Ole Miss Cheerleaders on the White House lawn.
I care about how many US troops are going to die so Dick Cheney can continue to pillage Iraq.

 

[*******]

That's the way it works bro.

Ishmael

When people haven't read the book, it's like shootin' fish in a barrel!

Look what I did with the Kool-aid jab. When you have no facts, as we see with the Mutt, accuse, accuse, accuse, because it's the SERIOUSNESS of the charge that matters and I've been charged as a mind-numbed robot and hence thoroughly discredited!

Here I stand head in hand
Turn my face to the wall...

 

[*******]

Ed Klein was a very respected journalist, look at his other works, none of which have been so blindly blasted until he took on Hillary Clinton.

This is why the Democrats are loosing power. Like the Jihadists, ya'll keep turning on your own in order to shore up your base...

 

[The Mutt]

Maybe Hillary will punch him out as per her proclivity...

Ahd pay to see that!

Besides, ya'll hate Bush's tough guy image, so why is Hillary's any better?

Because Bush's tough guy image is all image. He's a big pussy who goes running to Daddy or Uncle Dick whenever things get rough. Or runs off to Crawford to beat up some nasty shrubbery.
All hat and no cattle. He's been a slacker and wimp from day one. They write him nice speeches which he delivers in a passable fashion.

Hillary (whether you like her policy or not) is the real thing.

 

[*******]

Actually, you don't have to believe that or any other tawdry thing in the book. It does present one over-riding theme: A woman who will do anything, accept any humilation and stab anyone in the back to be president. Once she found out she couldn't be an astronaut, it became her number one goal in life.

Her defenders tend to fall into a pattern easily discernable too...

 

[*******]

Yes, she's a real manly man who surrounds herseef with lesbians further fueling the rumors...

Which BTW, is not a knock on a perfectly good album!

I used to lust for Stevie Nicks.


... and it really pisses her off that Bush got to be a fighter pilot and she couldn't because of her sex. [Which can best be described as none of the above by all acounts...]