Passer-By Shoots Suspect Who 'Ambushed' Arizona State Trooper

[Chris_Michael]

Well well well, look what happens when a law abiding citizen carries a firearm on them. He saved the fucking cop.

Now, let's not get too crazy. Right? Because for one of these instances, there are hundreds, if not thousands, of deadly shootings. Correct? That's because it's so goddamn difficult to use a gun without getting thrown under the prison. In some states, if a robber breaks into your house and you just so happen to shoot them in the back, prison.

Yeah... That's why I don't carry my gun. I leave it at home. I don't even put it in my fucking car. So if I were to see this situation, I wouldn't have even been able to help the cop. The headline would read, "Another cop killed because of guns in America... and this fat fucker who didn't carry his gun couldn't help."

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/passerby-...e-trooper-202204629--abc-news-topstories.html

 

[phrodeau]

It's a good thing that there weren't other cops in the vicinity, since they would have shot him dead once he pulled his weapon.

 

[Chris_Michael]

It's a good thing that there weren't other cops in the vicinity, since they would have shot him dead once he pulled his weapon.

I'm surprised the good samaritan isn't charged with first degree muder. If that had been California, he would have already been sentenced to life without parole.

But now that Trump is the man in charge, he'll nuke California off the map, and we'll all be much better off.

 

[phrodeau]

I'm surprised the good samaritan isn't charged with first degree muder. If that had been California, he would have already been sentenced to life without parole.

But now that Trump is the man in charge, he'll nuke California off the map, and we'll all be much better off.

But if he does that, we'll have to import all of our porn from Japan.

 

[handysr]

Well well well, look what happens when a law abiding citizen carries a firearm on them. He saved the fucking cop.

Now, let's not get too crazy. Right? Because for one of these instances, there are hundreds, if not thousands, of deadly shootings. Correct? That's because it's so goddamn difficult to use a gun without getting thrown under the prison. In some states, if a robber breaks into your house and you just so happen to shoot them in the back, prison.

Yeah... That's why I don't carry my gun. I leave it at home. I don't even put it in my fucking car. So if I were to see this situation, I wouldn't have even been able to help the cop. The headline would read, "Another cop killed because of guns in America... and this fat fucker who didn't carry his gun couldn't help."

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/passerby-...e-trooper-202204629--abc-news-topstories.html

This is good news!

The bad part is that he will lose his gun for a while. Maybe we should all contribute to a GoFundMe so he can get a replacement and a few boxes of ammo to feed it.

Too bad the state won't be able to give this hero an award for saving them so much money on a trial and jail time for the idiot that attacked a cop trying to help an injured person.

Good Guys With Guns Save Lives.

 

[Boxlicker101]

I'm surprised the good samaritan isn't charged with first degree muder. If that had been California, he would have already been sentenced to life without parole.

But now that Trump is the man in charge, he'll nuke California off the map, and we'll all be much better off.

If it had been S. F. and the assailant had been an illegal alien, the good Samaritan would have also been charged with a hate crime.

 

[tnman03]

This is good news!

The bad part is that he will lose his gun for a while. Maybe we should all contribute to a GoFundMe so he can get a replacement and a few boxes of ammo to feed it.

Too bad the state won't be able to give this hero an award for saving them so much money on a trial and jail time for the idiot that attacked a cop trying to help an injured person.

Good Guys With Guns Save Lives.

I'm certain the private citizen in question here either owns another firearm of he'll be gifted with one.

As to his receiving recognition for the state of Arizona...you can pretty well count on a public commendation award, this isn't the first time a private citizen has saved a law enforcement officers life.

 

[oggbashan]

Note these two points:

1. The passer-by asked the State Trooper if help was needed and got a 'Yes'.

2. The passer-by had to return to his car to get the weapon. He wasn't carrying it.

 

[KingOrfeo]

That's because it's so goddamn difficult to use a gun without getting thrown under the prison.

 

[Chris_Michael]

Note these two points:

1. The passer-by asked the State Trooper if help was needed and got a 'Yes'.

2. The passer-by had to return to his car to get the weapon. He wasn't carrying it.

In the state of Georgia, you are required to have a "Georgia Weapon Carry License" to travel with a loaded handgun. So, Georgia sees it as "carrying."

By the way, just curious... who here has actually owned and carried a weapon legally in their state? I get the feeling some of you don't actually know much about weapons.

Great example - Many anti-gun nuts think a SEMI-automatic weapon is a gun that has burst fire or is some variation of an automatic weapon. No. It just means that the gun fires as quick as you can pull the trigger.

Another example - He had a loaded "clip." WRONG

I love it when people who have never owned a gun tries to create an argument based on their preconceptions and lack of knowledge.

 

[phrodeau]

In the state of Georgia, you are required to have a "Georgia Weapon Carry License" to travel with a loaded handgun. So, Georgia sees it as "carrying."

By the way, just curious... who here has actually owned and carried a weapon legally in their state? I get the feeling some of you don't actually know much about weapons.

Great example - Many anti-gun nuts think a SEMI-automatic weapon is a gun that has burst fire or is some variation of an automatic weapon. No. It just means that the gun fires as quick as you can pull the trigger.

Another example - He had a loaded "clip." WRONG

I love it when people who have never owned a gun tries to create an argument based on their preconceptions and lack of knowledge.

Maybe you haven't heard of these things.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_U6tORrODJE

 

[Chris_Michael]

Maybe you haven't heard of these things.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_U6tORrODJE

Interesting. No I haven't. But that's still not semi-auto in my non-professional opinion. I could detail my reasons - the pressure generated by the shot is channeled to another pathway which will allow the gun to fire the next round and so on... but it's a technicality and I don't know what the law it regarding this type of thing.

So you got me. I'm ignorant on assault rifles. Because well, I've never owned one.

 

[JackLuis]

Maybe you haven't heard of these things.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_U6tORrODJE

Wow Ammo manufacturers must love them.

 

[tnman03]

In the state of Georgia, you are required to have a "Georgia Weapon Carry License" to travel with a loaded handgun. So, Georgia sees it as "carrying."

By the way, just curious... who here has actually owned and carried a weapon legally in their state? I get the feeling some of you don't actually know much about weapons.

Great example - Many anti-gun nuts think a SEMI-automatic weapon is a gun that has burst fire or is some variation of an automatic weapon. No. It just means that the gun fires as quick as you can pull the trigger.

Another example - He had a loaded "clip." WRONG

I love it when people who have never owned a gun tries to create an argument based on their preconceptions and lack of knowledge.

Several states allow you to carry a loaded handgun inside of your vehicle as a continuation of the Castle Doctrine but require a HCP outside of the vehicle. Some states allow Open Carry (which makes me cringe due to a lot of personal safety issues) with out any carry permit. Most states will allow the transport of unloaded firearms from home to firing range, gunsmith, hunting etc. However the ammunition has to be separated from the firearm. And yes, I know a lot about guns, firearms laws and tactical training. FWIW I've seen annoying people on the anti gun and pro gun side of the firearms equation.

 

[about_average]

It's a good thing that there weren't other cops in the vicinity, since they would have shot him dead once he pulled his weapon.

If there had been other troopers present he wouldn't have needed to.

In the state of Georgia, you are required to have a "Georgia Weapon Carry License" to travel with a loaded handgun. So, Georgia sees it as "carrying."

No CCW needed in Georgia to carry on/in your own property, which includes your vehicle. It is needed to carry in someone else's car.

By the way, just curious... who here has actually owned and carried a weapon legally in their state?

Me.

 

[Chris_Michael]

Dude, if you carry it in your vehicle in Georgia without a permit, it has to be out in the open. Like, on the seat able to be easily seen.

Who carries a handgun like that? Nobody that I know. I had a female coworker who kept her .38 in her glove compartment. She would be arrested if caught.

 

[Chris_Michael]

Several states allow you to carry a loaded handgun inside of your vehicle as a continuation of the Castle Doctrine but require a HCP outside of the vehicle. Some states allow Open Carry (which makes me cringe due to a lot of personal safety issues) with out any carry permit. Most states will allow the transport of unloaded firearms from home to firing range, gunsmith, hunting etc. However the ammunition has to be separated from the firearm. And yes, I know a lot about guns, firearms laws and tactical training. FWIW I've seen annoying people on the anti gun and pro gun side of the firearms equation.

Right, but the anti-gun nuts have to convince the people in the middle. I would consider myself in the middle because I'm open to banning assault rifles and possibly other types of firearms. I don't care if you want to ban AR-15s... IF AND ONLY IF you can come up with a reasonable way to phase the gun out. You can't just strip all the guns out of the hands of people who have spent time and money on these weapons. I think we should consider their investment in their legal weapon. I own a gun. I have spent more money on bullets training with the gun than the gun itself. So, that would be thousands of dollars wasted.

Anyway, so if the anti-gun nuts can compromise or come up with a wonderful idea of how to make it happen, we'll talk. Until then, they can just whine and make snarky remarks, showing how butthurt they are.

 

[phrodeau]

Right, but the anti-gun nuts have to convince the people in the middle. I would consider myself in the middle because I'm open to banning assault rifles and possibly other types of firearms. I don't care if you want to ban AR-15s... IF AND ONLY IF you can come up with a reasonable way to phase the gun out. You can't just strip all the guns out of the hands of people who have spent time and money on these weapons. I think we should consider their investment in their legal weapon. I own a gun. I have spent more money on bullets training with the gun than the gun itself. So, that would be thousands of dollars wasted.

Anyway, so if the anti-gun nuts can compromise or come up with a wonderful idea of how to make it happen, we'll talk. Until then, they can just whine and make snarky remarks, showing how butthurt they are.

The Second Amendment doesn't include the right to be compensated, sorry.

There are a number of ways to phase out weapons, buy-back programs, recalls and trade-ins, just to name three.

I have to think that tech improvements can also push some types of weapons out of people's hands. Then, it's just the bad luck of a poor investment decision. Nobody is going to compensate me for that VCR I bought in the 90's.

 

[Oliver_Klozoff]

Well well well, look what happens when a law abiding citizen carries a firearm on them. He saved the fucking cop.

What happened to the cop that he needed to be saved? Oh, that's right: someone else with a firearm had shot him.

Sort of like, we need more people with guns to stop the problems caused by ... people with guns.

Seems like a good plan.

 

[tnman03]

What happened to the cop that he needed to be saved? Oh, that's right: someone else with a firearm had shot him.

Sort of like, we need more people with guns to stop the problems caused by ... people with guns.

Seems like a good plan.

At face value you offer a simple assessment many gun control advocates promote even though its flawed. Insofar as banning firearms, look at how well that's worked historically and its end results.
As to the gun needed to stop the physical assault on an officer who'd been shot? You should really look at the number of and types of armed or physical assaults against police officers or others that didn't involve a firearm. Firearms related assaults and deaths are statistically deceptive for a lot of reasons, largely due to groupings.
But I like your argument and use of sarcasm.

 

[handysr]

What happened to the cop that he needed to be saved? Oh, that's right: someone else with a firearm had shot him.

Sort of like, we need more people with guns to stop the problems caused by ... people with guns.

Seems like a good plan.

The places that ban guns can have the biggest problems with them (ie: France, Chicago, Detroit). Criminals, by definition, don't obey laws. WTF is wrong with allowing normal law-abiding people the right to defend themselves and others around them?

Most people who want gun control equate that to mean that they don't want the 'average person' to own one, but they are more than happy for the government to have them. Letting the police, military, and acronym state agencies have real assault weapons (not the AR15) is fine, as long as the helpless civilian population don't have access to such things.

As seen in this incident, even though the "hero" should have approached the injured cop with his gun already out, firearms in the hands of average ordinary people is a force multiplier. They allow the average Joe/Jane to stop a threat they might not have been able to with just their hands. It lets a 100 pound woman fight away a 200 pound man who is determined to rape her, or a sleepy person fight off home invaders. Guns are used millions of times a year to protect life and property from asshole criminals.

Oliver_Klozoff, you're trying to imply that the gun is the problem, not the criminal. It's not a piece of metal that breaks the law, it's the criminal. Don't try to shift the blame to an inanimate object.

 

[BotanyBoy]

WTF is wrong with allowing normal law-abiding people the right to defend themselves and others around them?

The left likes people to be helpless and dependent upon the government for everything.

Individualism, entrepreneurship, self sufficiency and self determination are all totally fucking DISGUSTING and REPULSIVE to those on the left.

They hate the person who is responsible and takes care of their own shit more than anyone. If you so much as pick your own nose or wipe your own ass without hiring a government approved contractor to supervise then you're just an out of control redneck as far as they are concerned.

God forbid you change the batteries in your own smoke/CO detectors.....that kinda shit sends them into grand mal style fits.

 

[about_average]

Dude, if you carry it in your vehicle in Georgia without a permit, it has to be out in the open. Like, on the seat able to be easily seen.

So? You still don't need a license to.