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Parody Or Piracy?
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A story which was written from a supporting character's POV, but held true to the intent and spirit of the original work would have been plagiarism.
It is clear that "The Wind Done Gone" is a parody. "Parody" is a term usually meant to apply to comic re-working of a tale, but which can also apply to a morally outraged response such as this.
The lower court ruling will get overturned in the Supreme Court. (He says with self-deceiving optimism.)
"The Dream Police! THey live inside of my head!"--Cheap Trick
It is clear that "The Wind Done Gone" is a parody. "Parody" is a term usually meant to apply to comic re-working of a tale, but which can also apply to a morally outraged response such as this.
The lower court ruling will get overturned in the Supreme Court. (He says with self-deceiving optimism.)
"The Dream Police! THey live inside of my head!"--Cheap Trick
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This here is a slippery slope.
Not being fully versed in the legalities, it would seem an original work which uses passing reference to an occasional character from the preceding novel would still be an original work. All plot and character development is still originally created by the second author, and therefore, not essentially plagarism.
Verdad?
"The Wind Done Gone and Tuck Wid it All Dat Dey Wuz"
Okay. NOW you may have plagarism.
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Not being fully versed in the legalities, it would seem an original work which uses passing reference to an occasional character from the preceding novel would still be an original work. All plot and character development is still originally created by the second author, and therefore, not essentially plagarism.
Verdad?
"The Wind Done Gone and Tuck Wid it All Dat Dey Wuz"
Okay. NOW you may have plagarism.
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Personally...
...the rights of writers and artists are as slippery as a wet bar of soap and we should defend the few we have vigorously. The debate about whether The Wind Done Gone is a parody, political statement, or whatever is a moot one. The book is a cheap and nasty attempt to sensastionalise an otherwise poorly written book by a poor writer using another story that has been successful. It's more along the lines of all the books written after Diana's death...poor books poorly written but in demand because of controversy.
I don't deny that GWTW is probably racist, homophobic, and a lot of other things that I personally object to. Then again, every work of creation bares the soul of the creator. How could you expect anything else.
The situation is little different from the woman who now claims she "invented" the Harry Potter characters and stories. A mediocre writer of no consequence who self-published and gave away free some booklets which nobody was interested in now wants to lay claim to the gains of a successful and talented writer. She couldn't even find copies of her own work to "prove" her case when asked to do so. She seems to be angry that another writer used characters similar to hers when, in fact, many of those characters came from yet earlier writers like Tolkein and even ancient mythology (not to mention the Doobie culture).
The publisher who agreed to publish TWDG did so for business reasons, knowing that controversy will sell books IF the law lets it slip by. The most they risk is the usual risk of a book that they can't sell...and most books taken on by publishers never sell as well as they would like.
Yeah...this is close to home. You want fame and fortune? Write an original book that someone wants to read. If you base your work on someone else's because you think it's clever or because you want to make a political statement then take your chances, but don't expect sympathy from those of us who at least respect the works of others.
...the rights of writers and artists are as slippery as a wet bar of soap and we should defend the few we have vigorously. The debate about whether The Wind Done Gone is a parody, political statement, or whatever is a moot one. The book is a cheap and nasty attempt to sensastionalise an otherwise poorly written book by a poor writer using another story that has been successful. It's more along the lines of all the books written after Diana's death...poor books poorly written but in demand because of controversy.
I don't deny that GWTW is probably racist, homophobic, and a lot of other things that I personally object to. Then again, every work of creation bares the soul of the creator. How could you expect anything else.
The situation is little different from the woman who now claims she "invented" the Harry Potter characters and stories. A mediocre writer of no consequence who self-published and gave away free some booklets which nobody was interested in now wants to lay claim to the gains of a successful and talented writer. She couldn't even find copies of her own work to "prove" her case when asked to do so. She seems to be angry that another writer used characters similar to hers when, in fact, many of those characters came from yet earlier writers like Tolkein and even ancient mythology (not to mention the Doobie culture).
The publisher who agreed to publish TWDG did so for business reasons, knowing that controversy will sell books IF the law lets it slip by. The most they risk is the usual risk of a book that they can't sell...and most books taken on by publishers never sell as well as they would like.
Yeah...this is close to home. You want fame and fortune? Write an original book that someone wants to read. If you base your work on someone else's because you think it's clever or because you want to make a political statement then take your chances, but don't expect sympathy from those of us who at least respect the works of others.
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It's A Parody!
The Supreme Court hath spoken. We are all now free to read the trash.
Beats burning it.
Alden Bradley
The Supreme Court hath spoken. We are all now free to read the trash.
Beats burning it.
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Actually...
...it was the 11th US District Court of Appeals that lifted the ban. Quite a ways from the Supremes, but the law has spoken and that's good enough for me.
...it was the 11th US District Court of Appeals that lifted the ban. Quite a ways from the Supremes, but the law has spoken and that's good enough for me.
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Re: Actually...
Was it? Well, what the heck. I never let being correct get in the way of being heard.
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The first ammendment to the Constitution guarantees the right to speak. You do NOT have the right to be heard.
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Was it? Well, what the heck. I never let being correct get in the way of being heard.
Alden Bradley
The first ammendment to the Constitution guarantees the right to speak. You do NOT have the right to be heard.
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You've heard the expression...
...don't make a Supreme Court Case out of it?
...don't make a Supreme Court Case out of it?
