Pardon Manafort? - Impeach Trump

[BoyNextDoor]

It is as simple as that. It would be the most overt, self-servingly corrupt act in the history of the Republic were Tiny to pardon Manafort.

 

[HisArpy]

Don't worry, he won't.

 

[adrina]

And most, if not all, republicans would lockstep defend it as righting a wrong. Push come to shove.

Simply because Trump's base is unshakable. Trump could shoot someone in broad daylight and they wouldn't care. And if it were a reporter or a liberal, they would celebrate it.

They're not right in the head.

 

[adrina]

Don't worry, he won't.

Trump says Manafort pardon not 'off the table'

President Donald Trump declined in a new interview to rule out the possibility that he could pardon Paul Manafort, his former campaign chairman.

"It was never discussed, but I wouldn't take it off the table. Why would I take it off the table?" Trump told the New York Post.

Indeedly-do.

 

[HisArpy]

Trump says Manafort pardon not 'off the table'



Indeedly-do.

You still haven't figured it out, Trump doesn't owe anyone an answer over a request that hasn't been asked under circumstances which haven't occurred.

Meanwhile you just keep on hating the fact he's President and hoping he'll do something you can oust him over. Only he doesn't.

Grind them teeth. The sound is exquisite.

 

[adrina]

Taking joy in the pain of others is the sign of an unhealthy person. And it's even worse to hope you have helped to facilitate that pain/distress/anguish - whatever you want to call it.

Have you sought help for that?

I was just giving the Trump apologists (look in the mirror) something to chew on. You said he'd never do it. He says he refuses to say he won't.

And here you come along trying to make it sound like I'm gnashing my teeth.

Not surprisingly, but here you are nonetheless.

You've fully crossed over into the absurd.

 

[HisArpy]

Taking joy in the pain of others is the sign of an unhealthy person. And it's even worse to actually hope you've caused pain to others.

Have you sought help for that?

In addition to being an ass, I am a sadist. I make no bones about it or apologize for being this way.

I was just giving the Trump apologists (look in the mirror) something to chew on. You said he'd never do it. He says he refuses to say he won't.

And here you come along trying to make it sound like I'm gnashing my teeth.

Not surprisingly, but here you are nonetheless.

You've fully crossed over into the absurd.

Lol. Every Trump thread has you and a few others grinding your gears over the fact he was elected and is still in office. Being a sadistic ass, why shouldn't I enjoy taunting you with it when you respond so wonderfully frustrated and angry every time.

Remember, it's not ME, it's you doing it to yourself while I enjoy the hell out of it.

 

[KeithD]

I think it's entirely within Trump's persona to pardon Manafort and to count on support from Republicans in Congress.

 

[HisArpy]

I think it's entirely within Trump's persona to pardon Manafort and to count on support from Republicans in Congress.

It is. I'm not denying it, it is more than apparent that he is willing to do a deal with anyone regardless of the optics if it gets him what he wants.

The problem is that there's nothing he needs or wants that pardoning Manafort will get for him. That's the part that the progressives fail to understand, he's smarter than they are even if they won't admit it.

 

[Rightguide]

It is as simple as that. It would be the most overt, self-servingly corrupt act in the history of the Republic were Tiny to pardon Manafort.

How does it serve Trump's interest?

 

[adrina]

Lol. Every Trump thread has you and a few others grinding your gears over the fact he was elected and is still in office. Being a sadistic ass, why shouldn't I enjoy taunting you with it when you respond so wonderfully frustrated and angry every time.

Remember, it's not ME, it's you doing it to yourself while I enjoy the hell out of it.

No, you're just an ass.

If you wish to be a sadist, fine. But don't foul the consensual nature of bdsm with your abusive tendencies. But then I'd hardly expect you to grasp the difference.

You have perception issues as well. Again, no surprise.

 

[KeithD]

It is. I'm not denying it, he is more than willing to do a deal with anyone regardless of the optics if it gets him what he wants.

The problem is that there's nothing he needs or wants that pardoning Manafort will get for him.

It keeps Manafort from spilling the beans on him. Trump is so much up to his neck in corruption, criminality, and treason that Manafort knows about that of course he'll do whatever it takes to keep Manafort silent (we now know he'd even give the Russian mafia a pass if they butchered Manafort, which they will do if they can get at him) and take his chances with a system that thus far has bent over and held up a "fuck me here" sign.

 

[HisArpy]

It keeps Manafort from spilling the beans on him. Trump is so much up to his neck in corruption, criminality, and treason that Manafort knows about that of course he'll do whatever it takes to keep Manafort silent (we now know he'd even give the Russian mafia a pass if they butchered Manafort, which they will do if they can get at him) and take his chances with a system that thus far has bent over and held up a "fuck me here" sign.

LOL.

Meanwhile Mueller is trying to undo the plea deal because he says Manafort is lying because he doesn't want to "spill the beans".

Perhaps there are no beans to spill. Ever think of that?

 

[BoyNextDoor]

Lol. Every Trump thread has you and a few others grinding your gears over the fact he was elected and is still in office. Being a sadistic ass, why shouldn't I enjoy taunting you with it when you respond so wonderfully frustrated and angry every time.

Remember, it's not ME, it's you doing it to yourself while I enjoy the hell out of it.

False. The fact of Tiny's election only proves that we get the government we deserve. It is what it is. Dems took the house and Anti-Tiny elected officials will take the Senate and the WH in 2020 (take that to the bank). This has absolutely nothing with the meme about undoing the POTUS election results of 2016.

I am simply stating that this is the line, if crossed IMO, is historically corrupt and warrants consideration in the House for Impeachment.

 

[Adre]

There’s a California ambulance chaser in every crowd.

 

[HisArpy]

False. The fact of Tiny's election only proves that we get the government we deserve. It is what it is. Dems took the house and Anti-Tiny elected officials will take the Senate and the WH in 2020 (take that to the bank). This has absolutely nothing with the meme about undoing the POTUS election results of 2016.

I am simply stating that this is the line, if crossed IMO, is historically corrupt and warrants consideration in the House for Impeachment.

Nope, by posting what you did originally, you merely gave us your wish list for xmas.

The rest in this post is more of the same. You have no idea if the D's will actually succeed in gaining the majority in the Senate in 2020, you only hope they do.

And, yes, this is still about 2016 and the D's losing that election. You know it, I know it, the rest of the world knows it. It's why you so desperately want Trump to do something impeachable.

 

[BoyNextDoor]

How does it serve Trump's interest?

Pardoning Manafort is the repayment of a favor. In the worst, "DC is a Fucking Swamp" and the laws do not apply to the rich and connected sort of way.

There is no other explanation. A jury of Manafort's peers have found him guilty. Who is Tiny to set aside that Constitutionally arrived at verdict?

 

[Kirkrapine]

LOL.

Meanwhile Mueller is trying to undo the plea deal because he says Manafort is lying because he doesn't want to "spill the beans".

Perhaps there are no beans to spill. Ever think of that?

Not as a possibility worth serious consideration, no.

 

[KeithD]

LOL.

Meanwhile Mueller is trying to undo the plea deal because he says Manafort is lying because he doesn't want to "spill the beans".

Perhaps there are no beans to spill. Ever think of that?

Mueller doesn't have to "try" to undo a plea deal by statement of noncompliance to the judge. He just does it, and you can bet that the judge who agreed to it in the first place will be sharpening knives for Manafort for the resuming of the sentencing.

You're such a Trumpette. Manafort's your type of guy.

 

[Kirkrapine]

And, yes, this is still about 2016 and the D's losing that election.

No, it is about Trump winning it. We would not be having this discussion under President Cruz or Rubio.

 

[Kirkrapine]

Pardoning Manafort is the repayment of a favor.

I really can't see Trump ever doing anything out of gratitude alone. Nor does he grasp the nature or importance of Washington's "favor bank" system -- that's not how business is done where he comes from.

 

[HisArpy]

Mueller doesn't have to "try" to undo a plea deal by statement of noncompliance to the judge. He just does it, and you can bet that the judge who agreed to it in the first place will be sharpening knives for Manafort for the resuming of the sentencing.

You're such a Trumpette. Manafort's your type of guy.

It's up to the judge and he'll decide after listening to what Manafort has to say. IF Manafort says he doesn't know something and therefore can't say something, and Mueller can't prove otherwise, the deal sticks.

Trust me, it's a lot harder for the Gov to undo a plea agreement than you think it is.

As for Manafort being my kinda guy; I'm on the side of the guy who says "prove it" to the government and then stands up and takes whatever shit rolls his way. Mueller was counting on Manafort denying everything right up to the point a jury was empaneled then folding. Except that's not what happened.

Manafort fucked Mueller in the ass and made him like it. Yes, Manafort was found guilty, but Mueller lost face in the eyes of the judiciary and the public while Manafort got a deal to a lesser sentence in exchange for knowing nothing.

That's a pretty hard core player who's still willing to do his time standing up.

 

[Desiremakesmeweak]

Guys, you need to understand something - pretty much ALL of you, especially you Keith, are operating from the basis of insufficient actual or complete information, and there's nothing wrong with that because that's just the way things are right now and have been for some time.

Nothing wrong with that.

But to have a grossly incomplete picture 'could' make you leap to incorrect conclusions, either because of which, or due to pre-existing underlying animus in one direction or another, there is a lot of emotion and anger invested into the 'wrong' view...

Stop it.

There is A LOT of stuff you don't know about.

A LOT of stuff.

If you are just a person, an ordinary individual forming an opinion on your own and then pushing a particular narrative as a result without any recompense other than some personal gratification from some process or expenditure of energy, just try and consider that the people you are talking about - all of them - are in a HUGE money game. And you've never had a share of it and you never will - so why are you helping them?

This means Mueller is too. You don't know who he is. And you don't know anything about Manafort. Manafort tracked Bain & Co into the Ukraine when they set up the processes that resulted in a coup d'etat.

Manafort's been to Ecuador.

And I know Julian Assange personally, but not for a long long long time, many decades. My family certainly knew his family and I know his background.

You people are in the dark totally, and have been led along by an irresponsible and reckless media.

All that is going to happen is that two reports will arrive to the Congress, one of which will have been heavily redacted and probably not even released EVEN to the Senate Intelligence Oversight Committee in private!

The second report will be from the White House's lawyers and official DOJ attorneys, fully exonerating Donald Trump.

Now... There are 'things' that will happen.

And most of you will continue to speculate and make conjecture, and then even maybe get worse heated up about those things when they happen.

I get the impression there are 'some' gay people who think that Donald Trump is their enemy because of a political or implied moral difference of view.

Bad bad bad mistake.

In these 'big global picture' political games, unless you know who pulled the 'issue' string and why, you just don't know who your friend is or who your enemy.

Stop going overboard over stuff that is still mostly deep there inside a big grey cloud - of propaganda.

Glenn Greenwald is gay, and has not said a single word against Donald Trump in the Russia narrative. Why.

Do you know why - or are you going to speculate why...

I mean I can't 'force' you to change your opinions.

An 'indictment' is an allegation and a Special Counsel is not a court examining the facts to adjudicate on the truth of the allegations.

Hillary Clinton lost an election, but not the one you seem care about - she lost when Obama was parachuted in over her head from nowhere that anybody saw coming.

Obama... set her up over Benghazi because SHE was the person who pointed to the problems over his birth certificate. Now I am telling you - which you don't need to believe - that Obama was born on a farm on Kenya owned by Adnan Khashoggi. You people, most of you, don't have a clue and it's dangerous that you don't.

And, at a certain point, the people at the top of the Joint Intelligence Committee, pulled the pin on all of them and there are a handful of people left over fighting a rear-guard action very adamantly - going to jail would be the least worst prospect if EVERYTHING came to light. And I have said a lot in that last sentence and wouldn't want to extend the implications of that sentence if later on someone says 'what did you know and when.'

If you are angry now (because of a wildly false picture) then be prepared to go ballistic soon.

 

[Rightguide]

Pardoning Manafort is the repayment of a favor. In the worst, "DC is a Fucking Swamp" and the laws do not apply to the rich and connected sort of way.

There is no other explanation. A jury of Manafort's peers have found him guilty. Who is Tiny to set aside that Constitutionally arrived at verdict?

What favor?

 

[OldJourno]

It is as simple as that. It would be the most overt, self-servingly corrupt act in the history of the Republic were Tiny to pardon Manafort.

Why do you say that?