Page Layout View?

[ChuckWolf]

Is there any way to get a page layout view in the Literotica text editor?

The reason I ask is for purposes of footnotes.

Alternatively, anyone have any ideas/suggestions for doing footnotes in the Literotica text editor?

Thanks.

 

[alohadave]

It's plain formatted text, there isn't a way to do footnotes.

The best bet is to number your notes and reference them in a note at the end of the story, but I can't imagine that working well with multiple pages.

 

[MrPixel]

Numbered endnotes are a perfectly acceptable literary device. Footnotes may be preferable, but they are a nightmare to manage within pagination schemes. Linear, ad hoc text streams like HTML on Literotica simply have no capability for page-constrained footnotes.

Both my wife and I, coincidentally and separately, worked for academic publishers producing books, where authors' careers lived or died by reference notation. We have the scars.

 

[BobbyBrandt]

Footnotes for a work of fiction seem extreme in most cases and I would question their acceptability by readers on Literotica due to its structure. There are other literary devices that can be used for backstory and reference to character or scene dynamics which you might want to consider.

 

[alohadave]

Footnotes for a work of fiction seem extreme in most cases

The major exception being House of Leaves, but that is a very special case.

 

[StillStunned]

And anything by Terry Pratchett. The footnotes are half the fun. And usually about have the book too.

 

[MythicMind]

And "Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norrell." Pages upon pages of footnotes. Amazing book.

 

[BobbyBrandt]

The major exception being House of Leaves, but that is a very special case.

But how would that work under the structure of a site such as Literotica? I think that other options should be considered.

 

[ChuckWolf]

The idea behind the footnotes was to use them to refer to previous (fictitious) published adventures of the main character.

Maybe I'll just do that in parenthesis instead, unless someone can think of a better idea.

 

[Britva415]

The idea behind the footnotes was to use them to refer to previous (fictitious) published adventures of the main character.

Maybe I'll just do that in parenthesis instead, unless someone can think of a better idea.

Something which could work would be to include the footnote immediately instead of trying to format them to a page location. Webpages aren't paper and the page-breaking is not predictable.

Here's an example of something I have done in one story of mine, to refer to past installments in the series:

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[ChuckWolf]

Something which could work would be to include the footnote immediately instead of trying to format them to a page location. Webpages aren't paper and the page-breaking is not predictable.

Here's an example of something I have done in one story of mine, to refer to past installments in the series:

Yeah, that's currently how I'm doing it.

 

[Writer61]

Is there any way to get a page layout view in the Literotica text editor?

The reason I ask is for purposes of footnotes.

Alternatively, anyone have any ideas/suggestions for doing footnotes in the Literotica text editor?

Thanks.

If I needed a footnote I would do something like this †1.

†1 A symbol + a number

 

[alohadave]

But how would that work under the structure of a site such as Literotica? I think that other options should be considered.

It wouldn't, not at all. I was just commenting that it's one of the few examples of footnotes in fiction, and done very well.

 

[ElectricBlue]

The idea behind the footnotes was to use them to refer to previous (fictitious) published adventures of the main character.

Maybe I'll just do that in parenthesis instead, unless someone can think of a better idea.

Don't do it at all would be my suggestion. If you need to refer back to another story to understand motivation in this story, then this story needs to more self-contained. The whole idea sounds clunky and unnecessary to me.

You're also assuming new readers will know the old characters but they probably won't. And if the characters in the older stories were vivid enough, follower readers won't need reminding.

My suggestion, if you really want to reference the other stories, is do it at the end. Doing it within the flow will break the immersion, I reckon.

 

[TheWritingGroup]

Footnotes for a work of fiction seem extreme in most cases and I would question their acceptability by readers on Literotica due to its structure. There are other literary devices that can be used for backstory and reference to character or scene dynamics which you might want to consider.

I've used footnotes in fiction (not here, as far as I can remember), but (like with Sir Pterry) it was meant to be humorous.

The idea behind the footnotes was to use them to refer to previous (fictitious) published adventures of the main character.

You can link to other stories within a Literotica story. Just use the standard [A HREF] HTML tag.

--Rocco

 

[ChuckWolf]

Don't do it at all would be my suggestion. If you need to refer back to another story to understand motivation in this story, then this story needs to more self-contained. The whole idea sounds clunky and unnecessary to me.

You're also assuming new readers will know the old characters but they probably won't. And if the characters in the older stories were vivid enough, follower readers won't need reminding.

My suggestion, if you really want to reference the other stories, is do it at the end. Doing it within the flow will break the immersion, I reckon.

No, the old stories I'm referring to NEVER happened.

All of the references are completely fictitious.

The intent is to create the illusion that this character has a series of previous published adventures.

 

[ChuckWolf]

Here's an example of what I'm talking about:

Still, the last time he had encountered the wicked sorceress, Thorvik had barely escaped with his life, even though she held romantic feelings for him.* He thought that one day, after breaking her spirit, he might take her as one of his many concubines.

*The Fjords Of Fire, pub. 1985

 

[ElectricBlue]

No, the old stories I'm referring to NEVER happened.

All of the references are completely fictitious.

The intent is to create the illusion that this character has a series of previous published adventures.

Even more reason not to do it - that's being too clever by half.

I thought you were serious, wanting to link to existing stories.

I've done that once, but it was very meta - a woman recognises herself in a story, remembers a meeting in the street, gets in contact with the writer who might or might not be the character from the first story. Which is why I suggested, put everything at the end.

 

[TheWritingGroup]

Conan Doyle used to have Holmes and Watson refer to past adventures, but he didn't go to the extent of footnotes.

 

[ChuckWolf]

I appreciate the advice, but I'm still going to do it.

 

[DeMont]

Is there any way to get a page layout view in the Literotica text editor?

The reason I ask is for purposes of footnotes.

Alternatively, anyone have any ideas/suggestions for doing footnotes in the Literotica text editor?

Thanks.

@ChuckWolf,
Good morning dear colleague, if I may, I think it has been fairly well established, in preceding discourse, that there is no "pretty" nor "effectively useful" manner of doing what you wish. Perhaps, as has I believe already been suggested, some manner of referencing prior events within the normal flow of the tale.

For example, the instance you quote;
"Still, the last time he had encountered the wicked sorceress, Thorvik had barely escaped with his life, even though she held romantic feelings for him.* He thought that one day, after breaking her spirit, he might take her as one of his many concubines.

*The Fjords Of Fire, pub. 1985"

Might well be written as, "Still, the last time he had encountered the wicked sorceress, at the "Fjords Of Fire", Thorvik had barely escaped with his life, even though she held romantic feelings for him.* He thought that one day, after breaking her spirit, he might take her as one of his many concubines"

I would be tempted to say that any reader interested in the back story would then be able to trace, by simple search, the publication "Fjords of Fire" and given that it would be presented in quotation marks would be enough to suggest it to be a separate work, no?
Deepest respects,
D.

 

[BobbyBrandt]

Conan Doyle used to have Holmes and Watson refer to past adventures, but he didn't go to the extent of footnotes.

I do the same all the time using "allusion" (a brief, indirect reference within a story to another work of art, person, or object not otherwise part of the story), and/or "exposition" (providing certain details about a character's past in order for readers to understand their role in the story).

The use of footnotes on Literotica would be like trying to fit a round peg into a square hole. There are better alternatives.

 

[Writer61]

I agree, allusion/exposition is the way to go. Several of my stories have references to earlier ones/characters.