PacMan vs Bradley --- Rigged Fight

Morcheeba

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Watched the fight last night (not for $60, fuck that, we watched for free at the site that even IslandMan and Image know about - ends with sports). They had 12 links in pretty much every language but we settled on Feed 1 and it was HQ the whole ride through. Even down to the shocked-the-fucked-out people being interviewed.

I'm going to be psychic here and say that the rematch will be November 10th.

What do you think?
 
http://www.tmz.com/

Bradley tweeted a photo of a poster for the rematch back on May 29. Most experts agree that a decisive Manny victory would have meant no rematch.

In other words, boxing is now pro-wrestling. It's a new low for the sport.

Here's the sad part: very few people seem to care.
 
People do care. That fight and the resluts monopolized the news that the Miami Heat beat the Boston Celtics and will advance to the Finals.
 
People do care. That fight and the resluts monopolized the news that the Miami Heat beat the Boston Celtics and will advance to the Finals.

The only thing people want to hear re: the Heat is that they've out of the playoffs. In SoCal, people were rooting for the Celtics and cursing LeBron to hell. That's fucking amazing.

There's a special kind of hate for the Heat that I've never seen for a pro-basketball team. Well-deserved, though.
 
I have never seen a more boring "boxing" match in my entire life.

PacMan knows how to protect. Got that.

The American, Bradley, hell, he was hugging all over PacMan during the 4th round. Nice shot of Reggie Bush with tons of ladies around him (take that Kardashian) but the rest was so lame. And HBO wanted $55 or so to watch.

I guess that's right, because the looks on everyone's faces was priceless.
 
You care more for sports than 90% of the dudes here.

This fight has been trending for nearly 24 hours and I'm the first one to make a thread about it.

So I strapped one on.... you pussies don't have it in you.
 
People do care. That fight and the resluts monopolized the news that the Miami Heat beat the Boston Celtics and will advance to the Finals.

You know what? I saw this game! Miami beat Boston by 13 points.

I never watch basketball, but it was really good.
 
The only thing people want to hear re: the Heat is that they've out of the playoffs. In SoCal, people were rooting for the Celtics and cursing LeBron to hell. That's fucking amazing.

There's a special kind of hate for the Heat that I've never seen for a pro-basketball team. Well-deserved, though.

SoCal cursing LeBron anymore, really>?

That's just sad. They'll root for a man who raped a woman so terribly that he made her rectum/anal canal bleed (Kobe Bryant) but they curse LeBron to hell?

I thought SoCal was the opposite of say, the retards in Ohio.
 
Yahoo! Sports scored it 117-111 for Pacquiao, the same margin as Tim Dahlberg of the Associated Press and Steve Carp of the Las Vegas Review-Journal. Dan Rafael of ESPN had it 118-110 for Pacquiao. HBO's Harold Lederman had it 119-109, or 11 rounds to one, for Pacquiao.


"This is a death knell for boxing, and I'm going to make a ton of money on the rematch," Arum said.

Pacquiao landed 253 of 751 punches, a connect rate of 34 percent. Bradley landed 159 of 839, a connect rate of just 19 percent. On top of that, Pacquiao seemed to land the more powerful shots.


Imagine that, the HBO dude Harold Lederman had it 119 versus 109, or 11 rounds to one for Pacquiao, when they (HBO) have been promoting this fucking fight for weeks!
 
Yahoo! Sports scored it 117-111 for Pacquiao, the same margin as Tim Dahlberg of the Associated Press and Steve Carp of the Las Vegas Review-Journal. Dan Rafael of ESPN had it 118-110 for Pacquiao. HBO's Harold Lederman had it 119-109, or 11 rounds to one, for Pacquiao.


"This is a death knell for boxing, and I'm going to make a ton of money on the rematch," Arum said.

Pacquiao landed 253 of 751 punches, a connect rate of 34 percent. Bradley landed 159 of 839, a connect rate of just 19 percent. On top of that, Pacquiao seemed to land the more powerful shots.


Imagine that, the HBO dude Harold Lederman had it 119 versus 109, or 11 rounds to one for Pacquiao, when they (HBO) have been promoting this fucking fight for weeks!

If they do a rematch it should be for charity - all proceeds to charity . Not more money for Arum .
 
I read that AP scored the fight 117-111 or thereabouts for PacMan. Not to say that AP is the authority and their word is the gospel, but 117-111 is pretty much a rout. A 115-113 split decision, when 99% of the people in that room thought PacMan out boxed him, when Compubox agrees, in that Pac landed more punches in 10 of the 12 rounds....

Something smells. And his name is Bob Arum.
 
Byron Defending Farrah

No, she's very much not.

For one thing, she's American. We don't need a translator to speak to one another. Also, I can call her on the phone without dialing twenty digits or paying outrageous international fees. And, I can visit her without a passport.

Plus, there are other things that it would be impolite to mention.

He said this thread of mine would fail miserably but here he was just defending his new gal FARRAH in the Isololated Blurt Thread.

Look, I asked you to take a look at this thread. Not bash it.
 
Yahoo! Sports scored it 117-111 for Pacquiao, the same margin as Tim Dahlberg of the Associated Press and Steve Carp of the Las Vegas Review-Journal. Dan Rafael of ESPN had it 118-110 for Pacquiao. HBO's Harold Lederman had it 119-109, or 11 rounds to one, for Pacquiao.


"This is a death knell for boxing, and I'm going to make a ton of money on the rematch," Arum said.

Pacquiao landed 253 of 751 punches, a connect rate of 34 percent. Bradley landed 159 of 839, a connect rate of just 19 percent. On top of that, Pacquiao seemed to land the more powerful shots.


Imagine that, the HBO dude Harold Lederman had it 119 versus 109, or 11 rounds to one for Pacquiao, when they (HBO) have been promoting this fucking fight for weeks!

I didnt see this post before I posted the above. I will say this. I am 38 yrs old and Harold Lederman has been scoring fights for HBO as long as I have been watching them, and I have been watching for as long as I can remember.

He might at times go a little overboard, but he very rarely, if at all, gets a fight wrong. I didnt watch so I cant say if I agree at 11-1... but seriously. No pundit has said that Bradley won. That says alot with the jaded boxing media.

Also, the bolded above speaks volumes to me. It could very well be that Arum knows a PacMan-Mayweather fight will never happen, and a Bradley rematch is the next best thing. If PacMan is near the end of the line, this is a huge going away present for Bob.

Shit like that doesn't just fall into a guy like Bob Arum's lap.
 
I read that AP scored the fight 117-111 or thereabouts for PacMan. Not to say that AP is the authority and their word is the gospel, but 117-111 is pretty much a rout. A 115-113 split decision, when 99% of the people in that room thought PacMan out boxed him, when Compubox agrees, in that Pac landed more punches in 10 of the 12 rounds....

Something smells. And his name is Bob Arum.

Over and over I hear about Bob Arum, what's his background?

The whole thing was fishy, they acted like only 3 ppl counted this and that in Vegas. Meanwhile, the whole world it seemed was into it. 12 links to the free site I went to, Indian, Asian, Russian, I could go on.

Man, I miss Mike Tyson 50 Keg parties.
 
I didnt see this post before I posted the above. I will say this. I am 38 yrs old and Harold Lederman has been scoring fights for HBO as long as I have been watching them, and I have been watching for as long as I can remember.

He might at times go a little overboard, but he very rarely, if at all, gets a fight wrong. I didnt watch so I cant say if I agree at 11-1... but seriously. No pundit has said that Bradley won. That says alot with the jaded boxing media.

Also, the bolded above speaks volumes to me. It could very well be that Arum knows a PacMan-Mayweather fight will never happen, and a Bradley rematch is the next best thing. If PacMan is near the end of the line, this is a huge going away present for Bob.

Shit like that doesn't just fall into a guy like Bob Arum's lap.

Here's the link with the comment from ARum for you...

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/boxing...g-split-decision-win-over-manny-pacquiao.html


Don't think I provided it before so shame on me.
 
Over and over I hear about Bob Arum, what's his background?

The whole thing was fishy, they acted like only 3 ppl counted this and that in Vegas. Meanwhile, the whole world it seemed was into it. 12 links to the free site I went to, Indian, Asian, Russian, I could go on.

Man, I miss Mike Tyson 50 Keg parties.
Controversies

While working as a boxing promoter, Arum had been involved in many feuds and controversies.

In 1994, he was involved with John Daly for the High Noon in Hong Kong boxing event. The fights were called off at the last minute when Barry Hearn withdrew his fighters as no purses were forthcoming. John Daly blamed Arum when he said, "I've tried desperately to convince my partners to keep the faith. I offered them as much security as I could but it was not quite good enough. It seems I was ready to take the shots, but Mr Arum wasn't."[4]

He has been involved in a forty year feud with Don King, who once called him a "rat fink" in 2000 for admitting during a federal trial that he bribed the International Boxing Federation president in order to gain a more favorable rating for one of his fighters. [5][6]

He was penalized $125,000 by the Nevada State Athletic Commission in 1995 for a bribe to get one of his fights sanctioned.

In 2003, Arum complained about the judging in the September 13 bout between Oscar De La Hoya and Sugar Shane Mosley and suggested there was a vendetta against him from a member of the Nevada State Commission that led to De La Hoya's loss. Arum later apologized for the remark which commission chairman Luther Mack accepted. [7]

On the first week of January 2004, FBI agents raided Arum's Top Rank office in Las Vegas. Arum was on vacation when his office was raided, and the FBI originally declined to comment on the raid. The media reported that the FBI was investigating allegations that Top Rank was involved in fixing the rematch between De La Hoya and Shane Mosley, even though De La Hoya lost and Arum was De La Hoya's promoter. The federal agency also announced that it was investigating some of Eric Esch's fights, as well as the Jorge Páez-Verdell Smith fight. The investigation closed in the summer of 2006 with no charges being filed.

In 2007, Floyd Mayweather Jr., who Arum promoted from 1996–2006, accused him of both underpaying and undermarketing him while exploiting his talents and manipulating officials. [5]

In 2007, UFC president Dana White accused him of "sucking the life out of the sport (boxing) and not putting anything back in." Amongst White's criticisms were that Arum had created a weak undercard for the De La Hoya-Mayweather fight in 2007 saying Arum did not promote the show correctly. "He promoted that show completely the wrong way, because he worried about the money as opposed to trying to secure the future", White said. "He should have stacked that card. He should have had Shane Mosley and Bernard Hopkins and (Marco Antonio) Barrera and Winky Wright on there and used it to show that boxing is back". Arum responded by saying that MMA fighters need to examine the revenues being generated and ask why the UFC wasn't paying them more.[8][9]

Arum also filed a lawsuit HBO for overstepping its boundaries in the sport by becoming a defacto promoter while trying to intentionally eliminate him as a promoter. Arum complained that HBO dropped Floyd Mayweather Jr. from his exclusive deal after he insisted his fighter have a tougher bout than the network wanted. The suit was settled out of court but Arum continued to criticize HBO by saying "Instead of working with promoters, like they have done in the past, they have become promoters themselves. They make the fights just like promoters and pay fighters", Arum said. "It's their money and they can do what they want, but Don King doesn't have to go along with it and neither do I. King and I can get along without HBO or Showtime...The problem HBO Sports got into is they became defenders of the status quo. They held you back because they had control." [10]

In 2009, Arum defended Antonio Margarito when he lost his boxing license in the US state of California on charges of illegal hand wraps,[11] implied it was racially motivated and stated that Top Rank would not come back to the state of California until the issue was rectified.

In late-2009, Arum called UFC fans "skinhead white guys". Bas Rutten accused him of racism for this remark.[12] Arum also stated that MMA fighters are "guys rolling around like homosexuals on the ground."[13] Earlier in the year, Arum described UFC President Dana White as "nuts" and "a little too much of a loose cannon" for White's use of a gay slur in reference to an MMA reporter.[14]

If I remember correctly most of the boxing media were shocked that the FBI raid in the fight fixing scandal came up empty. Rumour was he was toast.

And he came out smelling like a rose. *shrug*
 
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