Over a taboo line

Shankara20

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This is nuts to even bring this question forward. If it creates a huge problem I’m ok with it being withdrawn / removed by our moderators. I am a bit concerned about the directions this subject could go, but apparently I’m ready to have a go and give it a try. This is not about BDSM but I feel at home here, safe here and among friends who I respect and that have points of view I find interesting.

Soft core porn, and some not-so-soft core porn, has from time to time shown adult twin sisters in nude photo sets and has been received by the general porn viewing audience as yummy girl-on-girl stuff. I have seen some adult twin brother nude not-so-soft core stuff in gay male porn places. By “not-so-soft core” I mean hard dicks, some provocative touching but not penetrating each other.

I find the twin sister stuff rather a mild turn-on. The twin brother stuff is a little more sexually stimulating and yet there is something just a little yucky weird – this from a guy (me) that enjoys male porn. It crosses my mind (the perverted thing that it is) that I have never seen nude adult twin brother/sister photos – and the thought of even seeing it weirds me out, I have no interest in ever seeing the stuff. The brother/sister thing touches off a huge taboo area for me, the brother/brother thing less so; the sister/sister thing presents no taboo problem for me at all. As I keep thinking this through the only difference I can see is that the risk of pregnancy inferred could would be the basis of my repulsion, and by inference, the social taboo.

I am not interested, nor advocating, sex between adult siblings. Nor am I interested in stories about what “my sister did to me”. What I am interested in is the basis of why seeing naked twin adult sisters is provocative poses is great, naked twin adult brothers is sexy but a little weird, but naked twin adult sister/brother is over the taboo line.

Any ideas?
 
Shankara20 said:
This is nuts to even bring this question forward. If it creates a huge problem I’m ok with it being withdrawn / removed by our moderators. I am a bit concerned about the directions this subject could go, but apparently I’m ready to have a go and give it a try. This is not about BDSM but I feel at home here, safe here and among friends who I respect and that have points of view I find interesting.

Soft core porn, and some not-so-soft core porn, has from time to time shown adult twin sisters in nude photo sets and has been received by the general porn viewing audience as yummy girl-on-girl stuff. I have seen some adult twin brother nude not-so-soft core stuff in gay male porn places. By “not-so-soft core” I mean hard dicks, some provocative touching but not penetrating each other.

I find the twin sister stuff rather a mild turn-on. The twin brother stuff is a little more sexually stimulating and yet there is something just a little yucky weird – this from a guy (me) that enjoys male porn. It crosses my mind (the perverted thing that it is) that I have never seen nude adult twin brother/sister photos – and the thought of even seeing it weirds me out, I have no interest in ever seeing the stuff. The brother/sister thing touches off a huge taboo area for me, the brother/brother thing less so; the sister/sister thing presents no taboo problem for me at all. As I keep thinking this through the only difference I can see is that the risk of pregnancy inferred could would be the basis of my repulsion, and by inference, the social taboo.

I am not interested, nor advocating, sex between adult siblings. Nor am I interested in stories about what “my sister did to me”. What I am interested in is the basis of why seeing naked twin adult sisters is provocative poses is great, naked twin adult brothers is sexy but a little weird, but naked twin adult sister/brother is over the taboo line.

Any ideas?

Taking away the legal aspects, I would imagine it depends on who is looking at the images.

Many men and women find woman/woman images stimulatiing, even if they are related. There are some men ( & possibly women) who find the men/men images stimulating, but not so much if they are twins because of the stigma. But the image of woman/man siblings may cross taboo lines because it represents the classic incest paradigm.

Just a thought.

Eb
 
Ebonyfire said:
Taking away the legal aspects, I would imagine it depends on who is looking at the images.

Many men and women find woman/woman images stimulatiing, even if they are related. There are some men ( & possibly women) who find the men/men images stimulating, but not so much if they are twins because of the stigma. But the image of woman/man siblings may cross taboo lines because it represents the classic incest paradigm.

Just a thought.

Eb

that is the way I see it also - is it the pregnancy thing that does it? Playboy has featured twin sisters. The pansexual BDSM party community I was in before I moved away had twin sisters that were up for just about anything. I cannot see a male/female twin doing that.
 
Shankara20 said:
that is the way I see it also - is it the pregnancy thing that does it? Playboy has featured twin sisters. The pansexual BDSM party community I was in before I moved away had twin sisters that were up for just about anything. I cannot see a male/female twin doing that.

I can't see a male/female twin publicly doing that. There are all kinds of things that are done under the cover of darkness, that people do not want to see come to light. I met a few people in my travels who were into things along the lines you discuss, and I just nodded and went my merry way (in the opposite direction).
 
There is a HUGE societal stigma attached to incest. So much so that it may be genetically hardwired into our hindbrains as a species survival trait. The ol' animal brain goes "Inbreeding that close is BAD GENETIC MOJO! Icky! Run away!"

Sister/sister and/or brother/brother incest may not trip that hardwired trigger because inbreeding would not be an issue. You may be on to something there, Shank ol' bean! *smiles* Twin sisters... what a fantasy!

Of course, I've got a sister, and a couple of cousins that I would do in heartbeat if they weren't close blood relatives... *sighs* That damned hindbrain is almost as good as a conscience!
 
Evil_Geoff said:
. You may be on to something there, Shank ol' bean! *smiles* Twin sisters... what a fantasy!

EG - I've got my own fantasy with the twin brothers... :D



ps - not to confused with a pick up attempt, I like your new "look"
 
I actually have wondered about this. Personally it grosses me out if it's f/f or m/m as much as if it's f/m. I've got five brothers and sisters and . . . well EW. But I've seen people advertising sisters and brothers in porn, and I, quite frankly, cannot imagine why it doesn't bother people in the way that f/m does. :confused:

That said, I know that sibs sometimes experiment with eachother. Especially if they share a room and/or bed. My mother always insisted that my sister and I have our own beds for that reason. I insist on the same thing, because of the number of adults who've told me that they experimented with a sibling when they were too young to know better.

Heck, when my oldest was three I caught her and her best friend in a room examining eachothers privates. (Their's a rule about them not closing the door when they're playng, it's why I went in there - the door was closed.) I didn't make a huge fuss - I think it was more a matter of curiosity, but I did put a stop to it.
 
On my last visit to Denmark I met friends of Andante who were twin brothers.
I spent some time with one of them, he was a really interesting man who I enjoyed talking to and being with.

He is not into BDSM but having met him I did start thinking of writing a story about a Domme being served by twin brothers.
Considering I am not a Domme it was an interesting train of thought which kept me happily musing for some time.
In particular I like the idea of twin pony boys at the races, and games like 'guess which cock belongs to whom.'

Have to admit the fact they both work out and had beautiful bodies helped my musing a great deal :D

Just to add: Andante just found my interest amusing, which was a relief. I may look and I may meander in thought but it doesn't mean I actually want to.
First I would have to be a Domme...
 
Hi Shankara, you said the m/m stuff you saw wasn't penetrative; wouldn't it have grossed you out as much as f/m if it was? I know it would me.

I'm just musing fairly aimlessly here but I've always seen same sex twins as closer than opp sex twins. They get dressed identically as kids and often share a bedroom and if looking at your sibling is the same as looking in a mirror you can't be repelled can you? I've met twin women who finish each other's sentences in a really freaky telepathic fashion and to be honest, gimmicks aside, I can see where going into the porn industry with a twin and having sex with him/her would be easier/less repellant than braving it alone.

m/f twins I think in the main are treated more as individuals and have more of a 'normal' (hate that word) bro/sis relationship which I suppose makes the thought of them having sex more shocking.

Those are my thoughts anyway
 
Shankara20 said:
What I am interested in is the basis of why seeing naked twin adult sisters is provocative poses is great, naked twin adult brothers is sexy but a little weird, but naked twin adult sister/brother is over the taboo line.
Not sure if I can offer any insight into this, but I have some questions which might clarify the situation:
1. Suppose the female/female couples were sisters, but not twins; would it still be as exciting? How about unrelated female/female couples? Is it the lesbianism which is exciting, or incest, or twincest?
2. Suppose the male/male couples were brothers, but not twins; would it still be as disturbing? How about unrelated male/male couples? Is it the gayness which is disturbing, or incest, or twincest?
3. Suppose the male/female couples were siblings, but not twins; would it still seem to be as taboo? Would it make a difference if the brother were older, or the sister?
 
VelvetDarkness said:
Hi Shankara, you said the m/m stuff you saw wasn't penetrative; wouldn't it have grossed you out as much as f/m if it was? I know it would me.

I'm just musing fairly aimlessly here but I've always seen same sex twins as closer than opp sex twins. They get dressed identically as kids and often share a bedroom and if looking at your sibling is the same as looking in a mirror you can't be repelled can you? I've met twin women who finish each other's sentences in a really freaky telepathic fashion and to be honest, gimmicks aside, I can see where going into the porn industry with a twin and having sex with him/her would be easier/less repellant than braving it alone.

m/f twins I think in the main are treated more as individuals and have more of a 'normal' (hate that word) bro/sis relationship which I suppose makes the thought of them having sex more shocking.

Those are my thoughts anyway

Seeing F/F twins touching each others breast starts to get a little ekky for me, seeing it get more involved, kissing-strap on-ect, does not interest me. Seeing M/M twins with hard-ons started to get a little ekky and seeing them touching each others dicks pushed it for me - I have no interest seeing any sort of penetration. Just the thought of seeing M/F twins naked together starts to ekky me out. and yet....?

Some time ago a male crossdresser posted stories to a thread of mine about how his adult sister would help him dress-to-pass then they would go out looking for a guy to have sex with together. That set off my ekky response, and yet I found it somewhat exciting. They were both adults. That set up this question in my mind (perverted thing that is is) and when I saw the naked M/M twins I just had to bring the question here.

complicated creatures we are..... :kiss:
 
heck brother sister lovemaking is in mainstream movies. it can be hot. see "Close my eyes."

let's keep in mind that the labels applied to film are imaginary; there are lots of 'mom and son' films. it just means there's a 40 year old actress and an 18 year old kid.

i think (so called) bro bro is taboo, but available. father son i have not seen.

as to what turns people on. the incest section of lit gives an idea: mother son and father daughter are very popular, and likewise brother and sister.

i'd say father son is most taboo, followed by bro bro. i'm unsure about pure mother daughter.
 
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I might've started a similar topic a while back.

Incidentally, I had a limited threesome experience with a pair of twins once. Fulfilling that fantasy more completely is still very much on my list.
 
Evil_Geoff said:
There is a HUGE societal stigma attached to incest. So much so that it may be genetically hardwired into our hindbrains as a species survival trait. The ol' animal brain goes "Inbreeding that close is BAD GENETIC MOJO! Icky! Run away!"

That is what I thought, then I met some folk, who live deep in the heartland, and they live a whole lot differently and the rest of us do. Let's just say that the taboo is not as strong with them.

Boy did I get educated!
 
Shankara20 said:
ps - not to confused with a pick up attempt, I like your new "look"
Thank you, Shank! I appreciate the compliment!

*grins* I'm a hairy ol' bear and quite secure enough in my own sexuality to acknowledge and appreciate a compliment about my looks, coming from a man or woman.

Remind me to tell you the story about what happened to me when I tried to explain what the "Bear Flag" was representing to my former slave... :rolleyes:
 
Evil_Geoff said:
*grins* I'm a hairy ol' bear and quite secure enough in my own sexuality to acknowledge and appreciate a compliment about my looks, coming from a man or woman.

*sigh - one more pick-up line shot down*

"from a man or woman" - I get confused myself about myself :eek:

hee hee
 
Evil_Geoff said:
Thank you, Shank! I appreciate the compliment!

*grins* I'm a hairy ol' bear and quite secure enough in my own sexuality to acknowledge and appreciate a compliment about my looks, coming from a man or woman.

Remind me to tell you the story about what happened to me when I tried to explain what the "Bear Flag" was representing to my former slave... :rolleyes:

Say EG - tell me that story about, you know, the "Bear Flag" and your former slave....
 
Since there are two slaves in my poly relationship - we actually role play as Daddy and two sisters... she's my big sister... i'm the little sister...

We also play mommy/daughter at times...

taboo - shmaboo... i know she's not my mom, i know He's not my dad... i know we are all fiercly involved in helping child molesters/rapists get harsher punishment so i don't have to worry that He or she really wants a 6 year old....
 
littlegirlslut said:
Since there are two slaves in my poly relationship - we actually role play as Daddy and two sisters... she's my big sister... i'm the little sister...

We also play mommy/daughter at times...

taboo - shmaboo... i know she's not my mom, i know He's not my dad... i know we are all fiercly involved in helping child molesters/rapists get harsher punishment so i don't have to worry that He or she really wants a 6 year old....

roll play is one thing, the taboo I feel is seeing real life adult M/F twins in play together. ;)
 
Marquis said:
I might've started a similar topic a while back.

Incidentally, I had a limited threesome experience with a pair of twins once. Fulfilling that fantasy more completely is still very much on my list.
haa, I was gonna ask you to come in and share that story :p

I find 98% of gay porn to be somewhat creepy, for whatever reason, so I can't help you much there, I'm totally a Yaoi boy.

'course twins in Yaoi is a bit different....


You share more blood with your sibling than you do with *anyone* else, you'd think fraternal twins would be closer than two normal siblings but they are both fertilized seperately so actually they're not, but, still, reproducing is quite dangerous between siblings.

Now, for a wierd question: if you had an indentical twin, would you do anything like that with them? (I guess this only applies to bi people)

I can't personally say I wouldn't consider it, I am a sexy bitch after all ^_^.
 
Aeroil said:
Now, for a wierd question: if you had an indentical twin, would you do anything like that with them? (I guess this only applies to bi people)

I can't personally say I wouldn't consider it, I am a sexy bitch after all ^_^.

I have seen identical f/f twins in many photos shoots and m/m twins in a few.
 
Shankara20 said:
I have seen identical f/f twins in many photos shoots and m/m twins in a few.
I think you're missing at least half a sentence there shank :)
 
Aeroil said:
I think you're missing at least half a sentence there shank :)

I'm still thinking, I'm thinking.....

Your question, well - I'm thinking :D
 
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