Orgasms on command

[princess pixy]

Hi, Everyone!!

Okay, so this is my first time posting on the board, I must admit, I’ve been lurking for a while. I've been trying to get into the lifestyle, and my boyfriend and I have experimented somewhat, its just rather hard to find enough time to actually make a dedicated effort to devote ourselves to. . .well, each other. I’m sure many of you know how it is.

Anyway. . .A while back I read something posted that was intriguing, and it is even more so after a semester in psychology. Is it possible to orgasm on command?

Now, this isn’t exactly not cumming until your master allows you, this is actually hearing a command word and physically experiencing the pleasure, preferably without any prior stimulation. Sounds far fetched, right? But, still, it also sounds pretty fun.

I’ve learned (putting my thousands of dollars to good use at college) in my psychology class a rather extensive bit on classical conditioning. Basically, it’s taking a previously neutral stimulus and manipulating it to elicit a response which had always occurred. Sorry to get so technical, but I think you have to actually understand the whole concept to decide if the experiment would work.

Take this for instance: A man touches a woman and is able to make her orgasm. The touching is an unconditional stimulus, that is, it will always result in an unconditional response, the orgasm. It is the way of the world, a stimulus creates an automatic response. Imagine now, that a word is said prior to touching. Let’s say the word is “Chinchilla” (Can you believe that is the first word that came to me?) Now, the word chinchilla would never have made a woman orgasm before, but, would it be possible, to “train” her to cum to the sound of that word?

With experimentation: Chinchilla is said-->man touches woman-->woman orgasms
After many restless hours and days. . .
Chinchilla is said-->woman orgasms

Of course, here is the problem with the setup. When would the word be said? Would chinchilla be murmured just as the woman is orgasming? Would this lead to an inability to cum unless the word is said? Or, would the word be said before the entire procedure of touching and fun began? Would masturbation affect this whole experiment? Perhaps the idea of an orgasm is too advanced for classical conditioning. Would it be possible to become aroused when hearing a specific word?

Just something I pondered before bed last night. The idea sounds interesting, and all the training that would need to be done would just be heaven. So, I don’t know. Any thoughts or suggestions? Has it been done? Can it be done?

Hope this wasn’t too tedious to read! Sorry if this should go in the “how to” section or something.

 

[caela]

i have no idea what the answer is but i can't wait to see what some of the more experienced around here have to say about it...interesting question!

 

[rosco rathbone]

I've been practicing with this lately. I'd really like to add it to my bag of tricks. The idea would be that, when I command "O for me, slave!" my slave, when I get one, will experience spontaeous multiple Os.

 

[Kajira Callista]

lol uncle rosco...you are too funny

I will answer.....it can be done. And you are right it is a word or a group of words that makes it happen. Could be a change in the tone of voice that signals you or just the sequence of words.

 

[SierraMoon]

my Master has trained me to cum on command. He just needs to say the word "CUM" whatever tone it's in, and i fall into a blithering mass.

i have found that at times i need to hear Him say it, in order to orgasm. It's hard to orgasm on my own, because it feels different to me.

Hope this helps

 

[FungiUg]

Having sucessfully trained a woman to cum on command, I can say "yes, it is possible."

However, I'm not sure about the "no prior stimulation." I basically had her constantly stimulated: mind, body or both.

So it was to a large extend a physical and mental state, combined with the command to cum.

A lot of fun! I can recommend it. I'm not sure every woman is cabable of it, or even every submissive woman.

 

[rosco rathbone]

lol uncle rosco...you are too funny

I will answer.....it can be done. And you are right it is a word or a group of words that makes it happen. Could be a change in the tone of voice that signals you or just the sequence of words.

Anymore smart ass remarks out of YOU and I will have you writhing on the floor O-ing uncontrollablly like a beast till you beg for mercy.


*points a long boney finger at you and looks at you with eyes like pinwheeeeeels....*

 

[Kajira Callista]

Anymore smart ass remarks out of YOU and I will have you writhing on the floor O-ing uncontrollablly like a beast till you beg for mercy.


*points a long boney finger at you and looks at you with eyes like pinwheeeeeels....*

 

[Desdemona]

If dogs can salivate at the sound of a bell, there's no reason a sub can't O on command. Pavlov set the precedent. I submit, however, that my experience of it was that they were milder and left me wanting much much more. In other words, I prefer physical stimulus. However, I can see how a dominant would get off on the ability to control that response with a mere word.

 

[NCShin]

i've mostly heard of this being done more as a trained countdown...

where the dom would cound down from a number and order the sub to cum at the end of the countdown.

I've tried this with one woman but we were only able to get it down to about 3 seconds as in: 3.......2........1......Cum...

and that was WITH stimulation.

I think it's possible, I think it would depend a lot on the sub.

 

[RJMasters]

NCShin is right is does depend alot on the sub.

My guess is that those submissives which can fall into subspace quickly are prime canidates for this type of training.

It depends alot on trigger association.

Usually using 2 triggers is best, 1 as a prep trigger and the 2nd one triggers the orgasm.

As to the fact is it very possible consider what a wet dream is.

The countdown is a great way to train, it also can be a very fun game to play after the submissives can cum upon a count down.

Example:

Dom/me sits in chair and holds out hand. Submissive acorss room on knees sees the hand as the goal, to feel it caress their cheek. The game is played in that permission to cum is given when they feel their Dom/mes hand upon thier cheek.

Each crawling step is a counted down. So that when they reach the hand they are at zero, feel the touch, and cum.

If you play this game enough...the submissive may even learn to cum just by you caressing their cheek.

Here is a story based on this type of idea.
Surrender

 

[Tanuki]

I first learned of this idea when I read Sharon Green's Mind Guest, in which the main character is put through slave training where she's taught to respond (with arousal) to the word 'serve'. That author also inspired me to start writing erotica, although I've never tackled the orgasm on command idea, since I wasn't sure if it was real.

I'd guess that it only works in the proper erotic environment, in which the woman is already very aroused. Probably doesn't work in the office cubicle when she's writing a report.

I'm sure it would work on guys, just say the words "Brooke Burke".

 

[FungiUg]

I'm sure it would work on guys, just say the words "Brooke Burke".

Who?

Um, it is real (from experience), and it does work with the right training and dedication. But basically I had to create a constantly stimulating "experience" for it to work best.

Did the countdown thing with physical stimulation, then reduced the countdown and reduced the physical stimulation but increased the mental stimulation. Things like requiring brinking during the day, or orgasm quotas and so on.

So yeah... in the right environment and with the right people, it can work. I would still be very leery in claiming it would work with anyone.

 

[snowy ciara]

There's also a "milder" form of this, when you train a submissive not to come unless you can.

I know of a person who has to ask if she can come. They'll be going at it hammer and tongs, and she'll ask (she says it's usually just a "please Sir" sort of thing as she's usually to wound up to say anything else.) and then he'll say "Okay" or "Cum for me" and then she does. The ironic thing, he didn't mean to train her this way. The first rule was that she had to tell him when she was close. The rule that replaced that she had to ask. Now, if he doesn't say yes, she just sort of hangs there, trying not to swear at him until he says so. He's a bit sadistic that way. One day he left her that way so long that she didn't come and then she couldn't. She was fit to be tied, and he was just amused..

 

[FungiUg]

She was fit to be tied, and he was just amused..

Exactly how it should be. I tend to use this rule myself -- requiring the submissive to ask permission to cum. Admittedly, I normally grant it. I will also grant abstentions to the rule (such as "while I am fucking you, you may cum as many times as you wish without needing to ask permission.")

Basically it's all about training the submissive to associate orgasm with permission and control from the Dominant.

 

[Desdemona]

Basically it's all about training the submissive to associate orgasm with permission and control from the Dominant.

Fungi, that's all well and good. It's fun while you're together in the relationship. But when it's over, it can be difficult for the submissive to get out of that mindset. Yes, I speak from experience.

 

[FungiUg]

Fungi, that's all well and good. It's fun while you're together in the relationship. But when it's over, it can be difficult for the submissive to get out of that mindset. Yes, I speak from experience.

You're not wrong. I have had to be VERY careful not to poke my finger in and stir things inappropriately for our ex-sub. I have no idea whether I could still make her cum on command, but it's just not fair on her for me to fuck with her mind that way.

The valid point is that like anything, you do need to know what you are getting into. And when you break up, you risk a "deprogramming" period of time.

So it's not something that people should leap into with anyone, or without due consideration.

 

[Desdemona]

You're not wrong. I have had to be VERY careful not to poke my finger in and stir things inappropriately for our ex-sub. I have no idea whether I could still make her cum on command, but it's just not fair on her for me to fuck with her mind that way.

The valid point is that like anything, you do need to know what you are getting into. And when you break up, you risk a "deprogramming" period of time.

So it's not something that people should leap into with anyone, or without due consideration.

Thanks for making the points more articulately than I did.

 

[FungiUg]

Thanks for making the points more articulately than I did.

Er, welcome.

So did you come right? How long did it take to get back to being able to orgasm without having received permission?

 

[Desdemona]

I haven't looked at a calendar. I'm not at my pre-training state. I can have weak orgasms now and hope to be able to have satisfying ones again soon. It's not an easy thing to deprogram.

 

[FungiUg]

No, I imagine it's not easy.

You might want to reverse the programming exercise. So do things like chanting out loud things like "I will cum because I want to" or "I can cum whenever I wish". Or give yourself daily orgasm quotas to work on relearning to be in control of your own orgasms.

Counter-programming is actually a reverse of the original programming. So think about the process of how you were programmed, and then work on steps that reverse that.

*hugs*

I'm not sure how much help I can provide, but feel free to ask. I know that our ex-wubmissive didn't run into any issues quite like this.

 

[Desdemona]

Thanks Fungi. I'm going to be fine. I only mentioned it to make the point that it can be difficult for the sub later on.

 

[Bloody Heart]

Now that sounds truly amazing to me. Being a person that can't cum unless I am the one doing it. I have never had a g-spot orgasm nor have I ever came while having sex. So, yes, like everyone is saying, it definately depends on the people involved. I would love to be able to cum on command! Although I guess I have other issues to work on. And Desdemona, good luck in your deprogramming. I have needed a little of that in the past as well in the mental area when breaking up with a Dom. Glad you are making progress.

 

[Desdemona]

Thanks Bloody Heart.

I'm using Fungi's most excellent suggestions. I'm certain it will get better. Now, let me get back to repeating my mantra:

My pleasure belongs to me, I can cum whenever I want to.
My pleasure belongs to me, I can cum whenever I want to.
My pleasure belongs to me, I can cum whenever I want to.


I can't say it too many times before I start laughing at myself. Besides that, the people at work look at me oddly as I mutter this mantra to myself. My sense of humor is intact and my libido is on the rise. Life is good.

 

[dolf]

Now that sounds truly amazing to me. Being a person that can't cum unless I am the one doing it. I have never had a g-spot orgasm nor have I ever came while having sex. So, yes, like everyone is saying, it definately depends on the people involved. I would love to be able to cum on command! Although I guess I have other issues to work on.

glad it's not just me
xx