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Irontoto

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this has nothing to do with sex, but i would like to bitch about the way they keep raising the price for gas.it is getting to the point that some high price government official needs to step in and regulate the prices. with summer coming up, many families are going to think twice about traveling by auto for their vacation. please respond with your comments and suggestions. thanks.
 
No kidding...I dread going to get gas to begin with, but these high prices have me so irritated. Do these people think we are made of money? I have enough money going out, I don't need to have to pay $1.50/gal for gas (or whatever it is here). Now that I'm going to be working again, I'll be traveling up to 50 miles or more a day, that means that I'll be filling up every 3 days for sure, it costs about $20 (more now, I'm sure) to fill my tank...that's $60/week. Then there is the daycare expenses $150/week. Student loans are right around the corner $300/month. I don't know if I'm going to be making enough money to make it here.

Postscript: I will gladly trade sexual favors in exchange for paying my bills...I will need the contract of marriage, or at least be living together, so I don't get charged with prostitution....applications are now being accepted.
 
working quickly to fill out application...opening check book( in the red)....awww shit...crumpleing applicaton and tossing into waste basket...maybe next month sammyjo..
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Tha was cute sam,,,reminded me of the old
personal add poster in which a guy is advertising for a wife who owns a boat
and requests a picture of the boat
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But on a serious note I believe we're being subjugated. As you except all the little
taxes and price hikes with only moderate
complaints we're slowly being conditioned
to accept that "Higher Powers" know whats best for you and you should be thankfull
their getting rich looking out for your best interests..

I remember the gas shortages,,,there was no shortage,,,just a ploy to hike the price.
The same holds true for most comodities..

Hell,,Nicholas Tesla wanted to give the world free electricty and how much do you pay for it??

But we have to live somewhere,,,here seems the only sane choice..
 
Sammyjo...Send me your picture, I'll send you my financial statement. Then we'll both pack up and meet in Palm Beach!
 
Hey sammy Money isn't every thing, so here is my ap if you're willing. I have.. no better not go there yet. I'm still thinking tho..
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I can empathize with your disgust at paying such ridiculous prices for gas. However, lets put it in perspective. In California, about $0.43 per gallon is TAXES!

I get one hell of a lot more from the oil companies in return for my $1.20 per gallon than from the government thugs for the other 43 cents per gallon.

If you want to get irate about something, raise hell with politician thieves about the exorbitant level of taxation. It's now as high here as in many socialist/communist countries.

P. S. For whoever said it's not about sex, we're getting screwed by both politicians and the gas companies. With the gas companies, at least you have a choice about who screws you!

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Why is gas now at $1.50 and oil at around $26 a barrel, last time oil was at $35 a barrel gas was around $1.40?

Time once more for me to make wind machines and alcohol.

Growler I'm impressed that you know of Tesla. There was someone ripped off by a real con artist.
 
Hey, love the socialist/communist comment! Made me laugh for quite a few seconds. Is the word socialism still taboo in the US by the way!
Sure there is a certain degree of being ripped off when it comes to petrol (aka gas) but don't be too narrowminded about the whole affir.
Over here we pay a hell of a lot more than you and a lot of that is taxes. But lets think about why:
* The more gas/petrol you consume the more you are contributing to pollution. The US are big fuckers when it comes to pollution control and if there is a way in which people can be encouraged to use public transport then I'm all for it.
* This added pollution in turn causes mass unhealthiness whether it be through asthma, heart disease or general breathing problems. This then causes more strain on the health service which then needs taxes to support it.

What you need to understand is that taxes are important and that taxes going up is ideoligically more sound than taxes going down.

Thats my fiver's worth anyway

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You think you're getting ripped off now, wait until the quarterly earning reports for the oil companies come out. As they say we have the best congress that money can buy. As for flagg, I always enjoy hearing from a second rate country that depends on the U.S. to take care of them. All the privledges with none of the responsibilities
 
Originally posted by nogard:
As for flagg, I always enjoy hearing from a second rate country that depends on the U.S. to take care of them. All the privledges with none of the responsibilities

I will not flame him.
I will not flame him.
...

Sic him Flagg!
 
Ok now I know I am gonna get flamed for this but I like the hiked prices, but not that much. As long as gas prices are high my family stays afloat. My stepdad works overseas away from us 30 weeks out of the year just so y'all bitchy people have gas at all. So yeah it is a little high, but how bout us pay a little more now, ride out this gas price hikage and keep 100's of thousands americans with jobs!
 
You really aren't very intelligent are you? I'm sorry if our country isn't the first economic power in the world. I'm sorry if our country does use the money its got for the wellbeing of our nation - ie unheard of concepts like free healthcare, free education, free welfare. I'm sorry if our country pioneered the cancellation of third world debt. I'm sorry if we have constantly had to push your country into accepting that the notion of global warming does exist and that America is very responsible for a large percentage of the pollution that poisons the world's air. I'm sorry that American "businesses" exploit and steal the livelyhood of peasants in the Carribean and a host of other small countries all in the name of "The American Dream". And most of all I'm sorry for you and your naive brainwashed mind. There are a lot of wonderful, sound people from the US on this BB but it is idiots like you that give your nation such a bad name.

Get a life.

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If you people want free welfare, free education, free health care, stop whining about taxes that have to pay for them. As for exploitation, read the history of the British Empire
 
Erm OK - I'll just quote my previous post then because it obviously takes several attempts before anything reaches your brain:

What you need to understand is that taxes are important and that taxes going up is idealogically more sound than taxes going down.

Are you there yet? Do you understand? Hey, quit staring at me with that glazed expression on your eyes!

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well done Flagg; now let me see, "nogard" is "dragon" backward ... backward seems to be the appropriate word...
 
All right, let's not start another US vs. Britain thing. No, ths US is not perfect. but as someone pointed out, Britain wasn't exactly kind and merciful when it was a world power. Politicians are politicians the world over, and to demonize any country without first looking in your own back yard and your own history is ignorant. (This goes for both sides of the argument.)

Back to gas... what's frightening about that situation is that the prices can be artificially raised so that the oil companies take in a higher profit. It sucks, especially for people such as myself who live in an area where cities are sprawled out and the public transportation system lacks, but hopefully higher prices will encourage the production & consumption of electric cars and other vehicles that use alternative energy sources. I for one would be very happy to see us all buy electric cars and tell the oil barons to take a hike. Teach em a lesson about strangling the golden goose. Better for the environment, too.
 
Originally posted by YoungOne:
So yeah it is a little high, but how bout us pay a little more now, ride out this gas price hikage and keep 100's of thousands americans with jobs!

If that is where the money was going, then sure. No Problem.

Has your step dad gotten a raise since the prices went up?

I doubt it. That would reduce profits.

I'm with Laurel on this one. I just put No-Mor_Flats (tm) tubes in my mountain bike, so I don't have to keep putting air in the tires (or drive) for a short trip.

I'm also in agreement with Laurel that we don't need disputes over international differences. It took a great deal of self control not to fan the flames Nogard really deserved. He deserved them not for picking on the English or anybody else. He deserved them for being Parochial and uninformed.
 
Well schucks Laurel, I was ready to start the second war. Yes, the U.S. does use a lot of energy. We grow much more food than we need, and we send it all over the world to the people that need it. Have a disaster, we are there. A flood, here we are again. Famine, disease or whatever, the United States has come to the rescue every time. When we have a flood, hurricane or whatever, who has helped us or even offered to? I agree that we aren't perfect but an awful lot of the energy that we use is returned to the world. Think about it, troops in the Balkans, aid to whoever needs it whenever they need it. We have been here for every country in the world when they needed it, even our enemys. What do we get for this but ridicule. I am proud to be an American and I am proud of what we do. I will not tolerate America bashing without a response. To the people in the United Kingdom, I sincerly apologize for my stupid post this morning. I have been privelidged (sp) to spend many happy times on your beautiful islands. For the most part, the only thing I've ever found is super people that are some of the best in the world. I let a moment of anger drag me down to the level of flagg. Again I apologize. There is no excuse except stupidity and I hope you can find it your heart to forgive me.
 
Forgiven! Now, let's move on...

Harold, that's exactly my point... people assume that gas prices go up because the cost of labor goes up, and that the money is going to all the employees and little people who make it possible. Wish it were true, but it's not. The extra cash pads the wallets of the millionaires who own the oil. The oil companies conspire to raise prices at the same time - it's a form of price-fixing, and it's highly unethical.

Flagg's right - cars pollute, and oil is a limited commodity. There's only so much in the earth's crust. It takes hundreds of thousands of years to create , but we rip through it in no time flat. Unfortunately, the oil companies have such influence that the development of alternative fuels isn't encouraged. And not all of us are lucky enough to live within walking or biking distance of our grocers, our doctors, etc.

It's all well and good to say "this is what you should do" or "this is how it should be", but we have to face reality. Not to start more trouble, but it's a lot like the gun issue... If we could wish away guns forever, it'd probably prevent people from being killed (whether it'd be best in the long run, I don't know). But guns exist - all the rhetoric in the world won't change that. And the plain fact is that much of the world (including, but not limited to, the United States and the U.K.) is highly dependent on oil. Those who own access to the oil are more concerned with making a big profit than playing fair. And it's going to hurt them, because it'll get to a point where the demand for vehicles that run on alternative energy will be high enough that the major auto makers will get off their asses and actually start developing and promoting such a product.

It's a blessing in disguise, really. People have to get really fed up before they'll initiate change. Maybe, just maybe, this will push us towards being less reliant on the world's rather limited oil supplies, and more open to renewable energy sources. Change is hard, but necessary.
 
Hopefully the people will get fed up soon. I keep hearing that it takes 60 days for the price reduction to get into the system, why then, can the price go up the next day? As I sais in my original post you (we) are going to see some horendous (sp again) profits when the quartely reports come out. Oil will be sitting back laughing while the rest of us go down the tubes. Congress will as usual be quitely taking their bribes. Whoops, soft money
 
Uhh...The problem with Electric Cars is that they hide the fact that the use fossil fuels for power, and are grossly inefficient in their use of fossil fuels. Beyond that it's a wonderful concept.

They rest of the argument in this thread exists somewhere else already. Maybe you can ask Deborah if she has it indexed yet.
 
Weird Harold, in response to your question if my stepdad has received a raise, that is a no. But if the prices go down drastically like you all want then he will not only receive a pay cut but probably a loss in his job.
 
Not to be mean here, Youngone, but I would much rather have gas at $.78 a gallon like it was last summer than for your dad to have a job. What I don't get, if prices go down, consumption should increase, which would require an increas in production...Shouldn't that make your dad's job safer?

If not, well, too bad. I was a much happier person when it only cost $10 to fill my gas tank.
 
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