one more reason i like corbyn

[butters]

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices...victims-families-youd-know-that-a6733611.html


blowing him up satisfied a lot of people - but creates his martyrdom in the eyes of other radicals. better dead than still out there, but better judged and locked away than dead. imo, of course. i like that corbyn has the humanity and the guts to speak out.

 

[ms_ann_thrope]

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices...victims-families-youd-know-that-a6733611.html


blowing him up satisfied a lot of people - but creates his martyrdom in the eyes of other radicals. better dead than still out there, but better judged and locked away than dead. imo, of course. i like that corbyn has the humanity and the guts to speak out.

I would have been happier with a single bullet. Much cheaper.

And you're welcome.

 

[PoppingTom]

I would have been happier with a single bullet. Much cheaper.

How can somebody hate him/herself so much?

I just have to take a look in the mirror, and then, I love me again. No matter what ever happens.

 

[ms_ann_thrope]

If they want to die for their cause, I'm all for it.

 

[PoppingTom]

You wanna suicide bomb for socialism?

 

[Boxlicker101]

To bad it wasn't napalm or something like that, so he could have burned to death agonizingly instead of dying quickly and (relatively) painlessly.

 

[PoppingTom]

Talking about your dad?

 

[butters]

To bad it wasn't napalm or something like that, so he could have burned to death agonizingly instead of dying quickly and (relatively) painlessly.

the families of his victims disagree with you. they'd have preferred he was captured, put on trial, and sent to prison for his acts rather than rewarding him with a speedy death which, in turn, can be used to attract more supporters to daesh. dead people can't offer up as much intelligence as the living.

 

[doctor_insanus]

the families of his victims disagree with you. they'd have preferred he was captured, put on trial, and sent to prison for his acts rather than rewarding him with a speedy death which, in turn, can be used to attract more supporters to daesh. dead people can't offer up as much intelligence as the living.

That would have been ideal.

Let him rot into oblivion.

 

[ms_ann_thrope]

the families of his victims disagree with you. they'd have preferred he was captured, put on trial, and sent to prison for his acts rather than rewarding him with a speedy death which, in turn, can be used to attract more supporters to daesh. dead people can't offer up as much intelligence as the living.

That requires boots on the ground. Is that what you are advocating?
Maybe the president should ask the families next time before launching an airstrike.

Dead terrorists can't kill anymore people either.

 

[ms_ann_thrope]

That would have been ideal.

Let him rot into oblivion.

Are you also advocating boots on the ground? What size are your boots?

 

[Boxlicker101]

the families of his victims disagree with you. they'd have preferred he was captured, put on trial, and sent to prison for his acts rather than rewarding him with a speedy death which, in turn, can be used to attract more supporters to daesh. dead people can't offer up as much intelligence as the living.

Maybe so but, if he was going to die, he should have died painfully.

 

[Liar]

If they want to die for their cause, I'm all for it.

So you're for their cause.

 

[geronimo_appleby]

Are you also advocating boots on the ground? What size are your boots?

that's what it will take.

 

[OjosMojo]

the families of his victims disagree with you. they'd have preferred he was captured, put on trial, and sent to prison for his acts rather than rewarding him with a speedy death which, in turn, can be used to attract more supporters to daesh. dead people can't offer up as much intelligence as the living.

Really?

Can you provide links quoting what you just spewed, or do you think we all are numskull chums of yours who don't automatically begin laughing our butts off whenever you pose to speak for anyone but your biased self?

E.g.: I've seen video of the father of just one of his victims and he most certainly didn't say anything in any way similar to your opinions above.

Why is that, wannabe?

 

[OjosMojo]

that's what it will take.

Boots on the ground, as has been concretely demonstrated in the recent past, aren't even close to enough.

Nothing short of an American constitutional declaration of war against the Islamic State can make that human piece of shit disappear.

Alas, America has almost become just as progressive as Europe, where the will to wage war against those who are purposely intent on eliminating you has almost completely evaporated. And without that necessary will, the needed war cannot be waged.

Progressives have made it their lives' effort to extinguish that will because they, like unicorns, dictate that that will is what gets in the way of peace. But the will to forcefully dominate others is as natural as the air we all breathe and will, just as naturally, prevail against an equal or superior force that no longer exists.

Individual liberty-loving defense is all that's left because the collective has succeeded in castrating the mob's will to defend itself. Thus the terror has continued, and thus it will only escalate.

If the choice between war or extinction isn't totally seen and fully acknowledged before it's too late, then extinction of individual liberty will be ever closer.

That is why progressives - natural archenemies of individual liberty - are so passive to terrorism itself.

 

[butters]

Really?

Can you provide links quoting what you just spewed, or do you think we all are numskull chums of yours who don't automatically begin laughing our butts off whenever you pose to speak for anyone but your biased self?

E.g.: I've seen video of the father of just one of his victims and he most certainly didn't say anything in any way similar to your opinions above.

Why is that, wannabe?

link's in the opening post - back on ignore, filth

 

[OjosMojo]

...back on ignore, filth

Instead of just conveniently choosing to pop your head in and out of the the sand, do you think you could climb all the way in instead of leaving your most obvious feature so fully exposed?

 

[geronimo_appleby]

Boots on the ground, as has been concretely demonstrated in the recent past, aren't even close to enough.

Nothing short of an American constitutional declaration of war against the Islamic State can make that human piece of shit disappear.

Alas, America has almost become just as progressive as Europe, where the will to wage war against those who are purposely intent on eliminating you has almost completely evaporated. And without that necessary will, the needed war cannot be waged.

Progressives have made it their lives' effort to extinguish that will because they, like unicorns, dictate that that will is what gets in the way of peace. But the will to forcefully dominate others is as natural as the air we all breathe and will, just as naturally, prevail against an equal or superior force that no longer exists.

Individual liberty-loving defense is all that's left because the collective has succeeded in castrating the mob's will to defend itself. Thus the terror has continued, and thus it will only escalate.

If the choice between war or extinction isn't totally seen and fully acknowledged before it's too late, then extinction of individual liberty will be ever closer.

That is why progressives - natural archenemies of individual liberty - are so passive to terrorism itself.

worked quite well in 2003.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Quote:

Originally Posted by OjosMojo View Post

Really?

Can you provide links quoting what you just spewed, or do you think we all are numskull chums of yours who don't automatically begin laughing our butts off whenever you pose to speak for anyone but your biased self?

E.g.: I've seen video of the father of just one of his victims and he most certainly didn't say anything in any way similar to your opinions above.

Why is that, wannabe?

link's in the opening post - back on ignore, filth

Some friends and family members of the victims are glad JJ is dead and some are more pacifist and are not:
http://nypost.com/2015/11/14/famili...ims-have-mixed-feelings-about-reported-death/

 

[OjosMojo]

worked quite well in 2003.

That's nice.

But this is 2015 and we're speaking of an enemy that conducted an act of war against one nation in that nation one day, another act of war against another nation in that nation just a couple of weeks later, and then carried out another act of war against another nation in that other nation the very next day.

3 acts of war against and in 3 different nations...

You need to compare the Islamic State to Basra just so your simple "boots on the ground" cliche finds relevance somehow?

 

[OjosMojo]

Some friends and family members of the victims are glad JJ is dead and some are more pacifist and are not:
http://nypost.com/2015/11/14/famili...ims-have-mixed-feelings-about-reported-death/

Hmmm, why doesn't that quite jibe with this:

the families of his victims disagree with you. they'd have preferred he was captured, put on trial, and sent to prison for his acts rather than rewarding him with a speedy death which, in turn, can be used to attract more supporters to daesh.

Could someone please tap bubbles' butt so she can take her head out of the sand and address her flaming disingenuousness there?

Poor old girl truly believes that others sees things as she commands they do, instead of how they actually do.

 

[ms_ann_thrope]

butters want's to bring them in alive to gain intelligence from them. Like someone willing to blow themselves up will be likely to spill the beans...unless she's also advocating waterboarding.

 

[Wrong Element]

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices...victims-families-youd-know-that-a6733611.html


blowing him up satisfied a lot of people - but creates his martyrdom in the eyes of other radicals. better dead than still out there, but better judged and locked away than dead. imo, of course. i like that corbyn has the humanity and the guts to speak out.

It's not really about punishing this one person -- never mind that he was a celebrity terrorist -- any more than shooting the soldier in the foxhole across from you is an expression of hatred for him as an individual. Bottom line is that it's a war (not conventional, but a war nonetheless), and you kill the other guys by any means necessary before they kill you. If you can minimize the risk for your own side, so much the better.

I don't worry too much about the "martyrdom" argument when it comes to killing known mass murderers (as opposed to killing civilians), because there's a finite number of losers willing to piss their lives away on a futile cause.

 

[snugglestruggle]

Boots on the ground, as has been concretely demonstrated in the recent past, aren't even close to enough.

Nothing short of an American constitutional declaration of war against the Islamic State can make that human piece of shit disappear.

Alas, America has almost become just as progressive as Europe, where the will to wage war against those who are purposely intent on eliminating you has almost completely evaporated. And without that necessary will, the needed war cannot be waged.

Progressives have made it their lives' effort to extinguish that will because they, like unicorns, dictate that that will is what gets in the way of peace. But the will to forcefully dominate others is as natural as the air we all breathe and will, just as naturally, prevail against an equal or superior force that no longer exists.

Individual liberty-loving defense is all that's left because the collective has succeeded in castrating the mob's will to defend itself. Thus the terror has continued, and thus it will only escalate.

If the choice between war or extinction isn't totally seen and fully acknowledged before it's too late, then extinction of individual liberty will be ever closer.

That is why progressives - natural archenemies of individual liberty - are so passive to terrorism itself.

Until I see a better class of politician's, I'm loath to give any administration the kind of power a formal declaration of War would give.