Omicron.

[bellisarius]

For going on two years now I've been telling you that the Wuhan Flu is here to stay. Learn to live with it because there are no medical or political solutions.

So now comes Omicron, a variant that has the researchers scratching their heads. The mutations are unprecedented in particular variant. There are some researchers out there that have postulated how this came about and their thinking on the subject makes sense and is somewhat troubling.

The thesis is that an individual with a severe cold also contracted the Wuhan Flu Delta variant. The two viruses formed a merger in that individuals body an now we have Omicron. This is actually quite possible in that both the Wuhan Flu and the common Cold are Corona viruses. Their hopes are that we end up with a more communicable, but less lethal form of the disease. Let's hope they're right.

The long term outlook is considerably more troubling. If this mixing can occur once, it can happen again and again and again. This implies that at some point in the future a variant might emerge that is considerably more lethal than that which we've seen so far.

 

[Champakian]

The deaths by Omicron will be stacking up any day now...


Most likely tomorrow, right? Sound about right for lag-time?

Another two months? Six? A full year of panic?

 

[Saint Peter]

there are no medical or political solutions.

you could move to byelorussia with you old pal evan neumann.

 

[oggbashan]

you could move to byelorussia with you old pal evan neumann.

And Russia, like many other countries, is lying to the world and their own people about the number of infections and deaths caused by Covid.

Perhaps the US is over recording because there are financial incentives. The UK is trying very hard to be accurate. the UK's margin of error is probably less than 1%.

India just doesn't know. Its statistical systems are overwhelmed as are its hospitals and cemeteries. Russia, China and Brazil are lying through their teeth. Most of Africa just doesn't know.

 

[Comshaw]

For going on two years now I've been telling you that the Wuhan Flu is here to stay. Learn to live with it because there are no medical or political solutions.

So now comes Omicron, a variant that has the researchers scratching their heads. The mutations are unprecedented in particular variant. There are some researchers out there that have postulated how this came about and their thinking on the subject makes sense and is somewhat troubling.

The thesis is that an individual with a severe cold also contracted the Wuhan Flu Delta variant. The two viruses formed a merger in that individuals body an now we have Omicron. This is actually quite possible in that both the Wuhan Flu and the common Cold are Corona viruses. Their hopes are that we end up with a more communicable, but less lethal form of the disease. Let's hope they're right.

The long term outlook is considerably more troubling. If this mixing can occur once, it can happen again and again and again. This implies that at some point in the future a variant might emerge that is considerably more lethal than that which we've seen so far.

Anyone with a tiny bit of gray matter KNOWS that Corvid-19 isn't going away. That wasn't and isn't an astounding revelation.

However, if the covid virus has recombined with the common cold virus, it is troubling. What if it does so with the virus that causes viral pneumonia? That could be a whole hell of a lot more deadly than what we have faced.

The question is, what to do about it. The only answer I can see is to let the scientist begin now to extrapolate what may happen and design a defense for it. Or we can follow those who believe, "It ain't gunna be that bad! It's only killing a tiny % of the population! They forget to add, so far.

The deaths by Omicron will be stacking up any day now...


Most likely tomorrow, right? Sound about right for lag-time?

Another two months? Six? A full year of panic?

Yeah, ain't a fucking thing to worry about. We've ONLY lost 817,326 in this country to this thing so far. Ain't nothing to get spun up about.


Comshaw

 

[silver gurl]

Learn to live with it because there are no medical solutions.

There is. It’s called a vaccination. Like diseases in the past, vaccinations helped to eradicate that disease. Vaccinations help to stop mutations. However, Covidiots refuse to believe in that.

 

[ToPleaseHim]

There is. It’s called a vaccination. Like diseases in the past, vaccinations helped to eradicate that disease. Vaccinations help to stop mutations. However, Covidiots refuse to believe in that.

Yep, and the Covidiots refusing to get vaccinated will be the reason it continues to mutate.

 

[bellisarius]

There is. It’s called a vaccination. Like diseases in the past, vaccinations helped to eradicate that disease. Vaccinations help to stop mutations. However, Covidiots refuse to believe in that.

Yep, and the Covidiots refusing to get vaccinated will be the reason it continues to mutate.

Answering both posts.

The vaccine is NO silver bullet. We know for a fact that vaccinated people are contracting the virus. The only good news is that in most cases the disease is relatively mild.

So if you can contract the Wuhan Flu, even if vaccinated, you can also still have a cold or some other Corona based virus that MAY lead to mutation. So the argument that getting people vaccinated will end the mutations is a hollow argument. You should have thought that through before you posted.

 

[mayfly13]

For going on two years now I've been telling you that the Wuhan Flu is here to stay. Learn to live with it because there are no medical or political solutions.

So now comes Omicron, a variant that has the researchers scratching their heads. The mutations are unprecedented in particular variant. There are some researchers out there that have postulated how this came about and their thinking on the subject makes sense and is somewhat troubling.

The thesis is that an individual with a severe cold also contracted the Wuhan Flu Delta variant. The two viruses formed a merger in that individuals body an now we have Omicron. This is actually quite possible in that both the Wuhan Flu and the common Cold are Corona viruses. Their hopes are that we end up with a more communicable, but less lethal form of the disease. Let's hope they're right.

What does the -navy highlighted part refers to?
That the troublesome part
is about it's ability to mutate by combining with other common viruses,
or about the fact that it's increasingly clear that the virus was man-made by Chinese and enhanced for human spread?


Focusing on that because I'm fascinated by how things that would have seemed sci-fi pr conspiratorial 2 years ago turned out to be true.
(the pandemic, then China sneakily trying to take over Western businesses post-pandemic despite it's role in hiding the pandemic, then Faucci's role in subsidising unsafe Chinese experiments....)

 

[mayfly13]

The long term outlook is considerably more troubling. If this mixing can occur once, it can happen again and again and again. This implies that at some point in the future a variant might emerge that is considerably more lethal than that which we've seen so far.

Yes it is, and these lockdowns forever are not feasible.
Yes they're saving lives among the elderly, imunocompromised and the occasional under 50's.
But given their hopeless economic future, the suicide rates among the young are skyrocketing.

There is. It’s called a vaccination. Like diseases in the past, vaccinations helped to eradicate that disease. Vaccinations help to stop mutations. However, Covidiots refuse to believe in that.

In saying that, SG has a point.
Not ALL vaccinated got re-infected, and among those who did, there were fewer deaths or severe cases.

Work on other measures as you suggested while continuing to vaccinate and improve vaccines.

 

[Saint Peter]

Answering both posts.

The vaccine is NO silver bullet. We know for a fact that vaccinated people are contracting the virus. The only good news is that in most cases the disease is relatively mild.

So if you can contract the Wuhan Flu, even if vaccinated, you can also still have a cold or some other Corona based virus that MAY lead to mutation. So the argument that getting people vaccinated will end the mutations is a hollow argument. You should have thought that through before you posted.

you are a tool.

The age-adjusted COVID-19-associated hospitalization rate among adults ages 18 years and older was 8 times higher in unvaccinated people than those who were vaccinated.

the lit taliban continues to post lies and bullshit. ish and his flu are tops in that category.

get vaccinated.

 

[bellisarius]

Let me start with the fact that I'm not an anti-vaxxer. I've had my two and am scheduled for the booster. I got the vaccine for my own protection, not yours, not the community, not the nation, merely watching out for myself. I don't hold with any vaccine mandates, passports. or any other of the political shit associated with the Wuhan Flu. They are ALL pointless.

The vaccines do NOT prevent the disease from being contracted or spread. The only thing they've proven to be is somewhat effective at reducing the severity...........THAT'S IT!!!

So the folks running around blaming the variants and everything else on the unvaccinated are full of shit. They haven't bothered to actually read up on how the disease works or how the vaccines work. The beast is among us now and if the entire world were to magically become 100% vaccinated tomorrow there will still be a new variant coming around this coming Spring (and there will be a new variant anyway) just like the common cold and the annual flu.

So if you have to blame someone for this nightmare at least place the blame where it belongs, on those bastards in the lab over in China.

 

[Chernosoth]

Vaccination became a religious belief. Rational argument won't budge believers. Saying anything that believers will accept starts with understanding the need for the belief. That is difficult on the internet, where people dig trenches instead of finding common ground.

 

[Saint Peter]

Let me start with the fact that I'm not an anti-vaxxer. I've had my two and am scheduled for the booster.

thank you.

 

[mayfly13]

Let me start with the fact that I'm not an anti-vaxxer. I've had my two and am scheduled for the booster. I got the vaccine for my own protection, not yours, not the community, not the nation, merely watching out for myself. I don't hold with any vaccine mandates, passports. or any other of the political shit associated with the Wuhan Flu. They are ALL pointless.

The vaccines do NOT prevent the disease from being contracted or spread. The only thing they've proven to be is somewhat effective at reducing the severity...........THAT'S IT!!!

I think they Definitely decreased the spread of the first variants.
--- I don't look at the statistics from the US or UK, too much chaos there.
I'm looking at the disastrous outcomes from the unvaxed Eastern European countries, and at how much better rules-abiding Scandinavian countries, Australia and NZ fared.

But you're right. Omicron just changed the game.
Lockdowns / gutting small businesses and bankrupting entire generations no longer make sense, in the face of the high infectivity.

But as to vaccines?
Only A handful of the vaccinated got reinfected, that's not proof that it doesn't tone down the spread.



I'm continuously perplexed why so many people (not you, this is a debate thread -- the activists) are so freaked out and paranoid about a mere jab. .

 

[pecksniff]

. . . the Wuhan Flu . . .

You know, they're not even sure any more it started in China.

 

[Saint Peter]

Only A handful of the vaccinated got reinfected,

truth.

it is interesting that trump policy and opinion kill off the followers and yet they eat it the lies like apple butter. we tell heroin addicts the shit will kill them and yet they keep shooting. the unbelievers are on their own. humanity did everything it could do to save their dumb fuck asses.

 

[mayfly13]

You know, they're not even sure any more it started in China.

Where?
I haven't researched it recently,
but I was under the impression that more and more scientists are coming out
and complaining that any "pro-lab leak" voices have been censored by mainstream media, Faucci or WHO.

 

[Saint Peter]

censored?

what happened to the first hash that was so troubled by the english language and sexual identity?

you do not seem like the sharpie on the face type of dude.

 

[pecksniff]

Where?
I haven't researched it recently,
but I was under the impression that more and more scientists are coming out
and complaining that any "pro-lab leak" voices have been censored by mainstream media, Faucci or WHO.

If you're wondering whether something is CT bullshit, the best place to begin is always RationalWiki.

 

[mayfly13]

If you're wondering whether something is CT bullshit, the best place to begin is always RationalWiki.

Taa, I'm having a look now.

censored?

what happened to the first hash that was so troubled by the english language and sexual identity?

you do not seem like the sharpie on the face type of dude.

Don't take it personally.
I'm not trying to troll you or Dems.

I'm just bored with seeing God Faucci and God Jacinda being sanctified and covered up for, by the corporate (which doesn't equate liberal) massmedia.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

For going on two years now I've been telling you that the Wuhan Flu

(record scratch sound effect here)

We interrupt this useless diatribe nobody asked for to make a friendly Public Service Announcement.

Anyone who is (still) referring to Covid-19 by this shitty xenophobic term (at this date in time) is an asshole and a racist prick. It is not clever, facilitates hatred and violence against Asians/Asian Americans and it impresses no one except society's lowest common denominator.

Using this term is a choice and people can be better than this, if they choose.

I know it's hard to believe these days, given the state of perpetual malevolent discourse between people, but trust me, that better is possible.

Don't give in to the shit and stay in the light. And keep hydrated. Water is your friend.

https://i.imgur.com/nLRJPc1.gif

 

[mayfly13]

Think whatever you might about bellisarius in other situations,
but his use of the term was designed to prompt such comical posts.


ETA
I meant "intentionally" designed, he's trolling you.

 

[renard_ruse]

I learned the Greek alphabet in one afternoon last year during the shutdowns. I already knew Cyrillic being a Russian bot. No seriously, I took Russian for a year in college. The alphabet was the least difficult part lol. Took about 3 weeks to master. Greek is very similar to Cyrillic but there are a few letters that are actually opposite, such as the lower case g and the upper case N (in English terms). About 3 or 4 letters took more than a few minutes to learn and still sometimes throw me off. In general though I find Greek even easier to read (phonetically) than Russian. The curvier letters are much more pleasant to the eyes.

 

[renard_ruse]

As I understand it, Omicron and Omega are the exact same sound in modern Greek. We know that God says He is the Alpha and the Omega in Revelation. With recent talk of nuclear war with Russia and all the other chaos over the past couple of years. Could "Omicron" be the New World Order signaling that its ready to launch the End Times? We know that Satan demands his disciples to publically announce their plans before they act.