older men with younger women

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I was trying to find a thread here on that subject, which actually discusses the subject: one which has NOT degraded into a picture-showing thread. As if one could explain a seemingly strange phenomenon by posting mere pictures of young women with elder men.

I have known one of the sweetest young women on the planet, for more than a year by now, and she is four decades(+) my junior. A seemingly absurd situation; how can we possibly carry on a fully comprehensive relationship? With not only an enticing sexual side (that was at first our only natural resonance), but also a tingling of our minds and a fondling of our souls.

It did not work out so well for quite a while, until two things happened: I realized finally how much we have fallen in love with each other, and how much she is giving me. And she made a tremendous effort understanding the whole man in me. Not easy at all for a young woman. For me age is not only a number; rather it is bringing me ever closer to my expiration date with every passing month.

I read on a thread that one young person broke off with an elder one, because the elder one still remembered the Berlin Wall coming down. Hell, I grew up when that wall had never even been built and planned yet, and I understand the reasons also, why it was necessary to build it. Not trivial for people two generations apart to develop an understanding of what life was like, when the other one grew up. Especially when that growing up took place in different countries.

And to learn the finesse of the language the other one speaks, and what's more difficult: the ingrained habits of each generation. So we have accomplished quite a bit; most of it because of her doing and her effort. But after we managed to get it all done, sort of, there has been an enormous amount of "cross-pollination" – as I like to call it – between us. I pick up things, and she picks up things we would not otherwise, were we not a couple in love.

And there seems to be one factor, which generally does not exist between people of similar ages: erotica and sex can be much more rewarding. Not to mention the bonding together of our souls. Sapiosexuality plays a significant role, I would say. And her sheer beauty of course. Beauty elder men usually don't get to experience intimately. She makes me feel quite a bit younger, and I contribute a bit to her understanding and figuring out "how to look behind the curtain" of stuff in life.

So mastering the difficulties and overcoming the roadblocks inherent in an OLD with YOUNG relationship is well worth it, I posit. At least for us, I'd say. The way we feel right now, we wouldn't have any other way.
 
Superbly written and so true. It’s why I love older women.
 
I'm just a little confused. Are you responding to some criticism of your relationship? I personally see nothing wrong with it in theory, but I get the impression from the above that I'm seeing one side of a conversation/debate.
 
I'm just a little confused. Are you responding to some criticism of your relationship? I personally see nothing wrong with it in theory, but I get the impression from the above that I'm seeing one side of a conversation/debate.

The answer to your question is NO. I believe I have touched upon both sides of such a relationship.

What do you think of simply reading my post a second time? It often helps in unertanding when one does that.
 
The answer to your question is NO. I believe I have touched upon both sides of such a relationship.

What do you think of simply reading my post a second time? It often helps in unertanding when one does that.

I reread it. It still reads like a paean to your relationship, and I'm simply confused as to what prompted it. I do see that you mentioned a thread, but you don't quote it directly, so I say again: it seems like we're getting one side of an ongoing argument.
 
I reread it. It still reads like a paean to your relationship, and I'm simply confused as to what prompted it. I do see that you mentioned a thread, but you don't quote it directly, so I say again: it seems like we're getting one side of an ongoing argument.[/QUOTEI

I hope this apparent discrepancy you see in my post won't prevent you from finding sleep Tonight.
 
I reread it. It still reads like a paean to your relationship, and I'm simply confused as to what prompted it. I do see that you mentioned a thread, but you don't quote it directly, so I say again: it seems like we're getting one side of an ongoing argument.[/QUOTEI

I hope this apparent discrepancy you see in my post won't prevent you from finding sleep Tonight.

"No, I don't want to respond to your question." Something along those lines would have sufficed.
 
I reread it. It still reads like a paean to your relationship, and I'm simply confused as to what prompted it. I do see that you mentioned a thread, but you don't quote it directly, so I say again: it seems like we're getting one side of an ongoing argument.

He was referring to a comment I made on the Hello from London thread about a woman I know whose younger lover thought it was weird when he realised she’d lived through the Berlin Wall coming down. He’d decided it was a bit too much to date someone who had lived through events he learnt about in school...

Consenting adults can do what they want to do - but I do think it’s creepy when older folks (male or female) are sniffing around barely legal youngsters... not that I was suggesting glbock guilty - he wasn’t part of that thread at all in fact, so if this post is a one sided argument, it’s an argument with himself.

But now I look at his latest posts...

‘Flat chests and tiny tits’ - expressing disappointment that these girls are out of his physical reach... girls being the key word there...

‘Hidden secrets revealed’ chastising a man for being shocked at how underage his wife was when she popped her cherry and chastising a different man for being shocked at the incestous relationship between his wife and grandfather “your wife liked it, didn't she? So what else matters?” - actually nowhere in the post did it say she’d liked it, it said she confessed there had been inappropriate contact. Sounds a bit like she was probably confiding child abuse but I don’t know the ages - I just know it’s a really odd take away to make the assumption she liked it...

Creepy as fuck if you ask me...

I support all women’s right to feel good about their bodies regardless of size, tiny titted goddesses included - but some of the girls featured on the tiny tits thread look worryingly young - if doesn’t seem to feature many older women with tiny tits, just mostly girls I find myself peering at and trying to work out if they are legal...

Did I say creepy as fuck? :(
 
I have to agree with Allie... I feel creepy when I see way too young girls posted. As a retired teacher I had to look in the other direction when a young woman came up to my desk with a low cut top. Way too weird for me and not at all appealing.

And... I do like younger women... but women. Not girls.

And I also love tits. On women. Not girls.
 
my comments on Allia's comments

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I have to agree with Allie... I feel creepy when I see way too young girls posted. As a retired teacher I had to look in the other direction when a young woman came up to my desk with a low cut top. Way too weird for me and not at all appealing.

And... I do like younger women... but women. Not girls.

And I also love tits. On women. Not girls.

To each his own, wisman.

Oh BTW, I wonder why you left out the "e" before the "m"?
 
I find they don't need being repeated again; y'all can look them up above.

I assume for your sake, Allia, that you made them with a clean conscience, not to spite me, and with honest concerns on your mind. And with that frame of reference I want to respond to you.

KEY to your post – I think – was one of your last sentences: you write that "you try to work out, whether they are legal" . IMHO, it is nobody's business – yours included – how "legal" somebody is. That is exclusively the business of the people involved. It is not Lit's business either; and there have been plenty of posts written here by a wide diversity of people, who support me in my thinking.

You Allia are a nanny-type person, I am afraid. Regarding OTHER people. As far as yourself is concerned, you may be quite OK. When I look at your avatar picture, I believe you may be quite alright.

Trouble is that what is usually understood to be "common decency" is anything but. It has morphed into puritanism in America, combined with racism and bigotry of the worst kind.

As if sex were something inapproriate, especially for young people. I claim there have always been plenty of people – myself included, and I was born hundreds of years ago – who awaked sexually at an age when others had barely graduated from Kindergarten. And who are you to criticize that, Allia?

I implore you honestly, Allia, to allow others – including people you deem too young – to walk their own paths towards finding and developing and expressing their sexuality. And if somebody gets there at an age Literotica deems inappropriate, that means in no way that it is something evil.

Ok - I’ve had to read this several times because it’s surprising even by your standards...

Are you actually for real? Seriously - this is some disturbing shit right here... if pointing out underage is unacceptable makes me a nanny-type person, well I will proudly wear the sash...

On the positive side - I think your lit account might be about to die...
 
Ok - I’ve had to read this several times because it’s surprising even by your standards...

Are you actually for real? Seriously - this is some disturbing shit right here... if pointing out underage is unacceptable makes me a nanny-type person, well I will proudly wear the sash...

On the positive side - I think your lit account might be about to die...

I can only respond to your words like I did to someone else today: to each his/her own. If you feel happy wearing your "sash" (whatever that means; i am too lazy to loook it up), then go ahead and wear it.

Since apparently you seem unconcerned with racism and bigotry, which is often the driver of puritan thinking.
 
I can only respond to your words like I did to someone else today: to each his/her own. If you feel happy wearing your "sash" (whatever that means; i am too lazy to loook it up), then go ahead and wear it.

Since apparently you seem unconcerned with racism and bigotry, which is often the driver of puritan thinking.

To each his/her own is not an acceptable answer when you are talking about sexual awakenings in children barely out of kindergarten.

And I didn’t comment on the odd inclusion of racism and bigotry because that isn’t what the conversation was about.

And I will wear the sash and I will continue to call out this sort of bullshit where I see it. You do not get to say that whether lit content is legal age wise or not is no one else’s beeswax... that’s not how this works, regardless of how many fucked up cunts here support you in your thinking...

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my empathy is with you, Allia

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Oh BTW Allia

I am ignoring your remarks at the end of your post about "fucked up cunts". I assume you made them at a moment you were outside of yourself.

Or could it be that a bit of envy - pure and simple envy entered you mind when you wrote that?
 
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Enlighten me as to what exactly you think I’m envious of...

And I consider child marriage to be backward whether in the South Pacific or elsewhere. That is not the same as calling the communities backward. I sponsor a child in a developing county and some of that money goes towards ending child marriages. Inevitably it is the girl that suffers in these circumstances. The marriages are normally forced, the girls education and subsequent earning potential is limited. As is her escape route should the union be violent. It is a lot harder to leave when you lack the resources.

The child is more likely to suffer complications during childbirth, she is more likely to have a high fertility rate, further reducing her opportunities in life...

It’s just so fucking depressing... the only people to benefit are the old men gaining a slave for a wife...
 
some words on your post, Spirited Lady

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I don't want to knock everything you wrote, as there may be some truth to parts of it. But I ask you to consider at least two items: #1 totally different customs and mores in far-away societies, like in the Southern Pacific region, and #2 the unhealthy influence of (puritan) churches. And maybe the unhealty political atmosphere generally, at the time incest laws were passed. The have not existed all the time, you know.

So I posit that a lot of supposed child abuse became "abuse" only thru the eyes of professionals. I am sure your profession means well, but I imagine it to be impossible to judge, which actions are abuse, and which are tenderness. Coupled with some horniness, of course.

And I posit that horniness sometimes exists inside supposedly abused children. I was a horny boy at age nine, and I know several people, male and female, who felt horny also at that age, and a few lucky ones who were "abused" by older people.

Probably many people exist also, who were subjected to indoctrinations, which made them believe eventually they had been abused. I am convinced that if I were a pedophile (I have never been fortunately) I would know how to tell apart young people who want and desire "it", from those who feel bothered by it. and leave the latter category alone.

I am convinced that it will take considerable time, until unbiased research into such matters will ever be conducted. And much earlier in the Sociology Department of the London School of Economics, for instance, not at Harvard. I just remembered: maybe you are familiar perhaps, of what those people study these days. Have you heard or read of a senior researcher there, Dr. Catherine Hakim? She researched something other than young/old; "erotic capital" was one of her subjects.

I could go on and on, but my sense is you most likely don't feel like hearing more, so I will stop here.

“and a few lucky ones who were "abused" by older people.“. If you were a pedophile you would be able to tell which victims wanted it... :confused:

Jesus mother fucking Christ... do you really believe your own shitty drivel?
 
I don't want to knock everything you wrote, as there may be some truth to parts of it. But I ask you to consider at least two items: #1 totally different customs and mores in far-away societies, like in the Southern Pacific region, and #2 the unhealthy influence of (puritan) churches. And maybe the unhealty political atmosphere generally, at the time incest laws were passed. The have not existed all the time, you know.

So I posit that a lot of supposed child abuse became "abuse" only thru the eyes of professionals. I am sure your profession means well, but I imagine it to be impossible to judge, which actions are abuse, and which are tenderness. Coupled with some horniness, of course.

And I posit that horniness sometimes exists inside supposedly abused children. I was a horny boy at age nine, and I know several people, male and female, who felt horny also at that age, and a few lucky ones who were "abused" by older people.

Probably many people exist also, who were subjected to indoctrinations, which made them believe eventually they had been abused. I am convinced that if I were a pedophile (I have never been fortunately) I would know how to tell apart young people who want and desire "it", from those who feel bothered by it. and leave the latter category alone.

I am convinced that it will take considerable time, until unbiased research into such matters will ever be conducted. And much earlier in the Sociology Department of the London School of Economics, for instance, not at Harvard. I just remembered: maybe you are familiar perhaps, of what those people study these days. Have you heard or read of a senior researcher there, Dr. Catherine Hakim? She researched something other than young/old; "erotic capital" was one of her subjects.

I could go on and on, but my sense is you most likely don't feel like hearing more, so I will stop here.

You’re ignoring the fact that children do not have capacity to make informed decisions - even if they have sexual feelings they are vulnerable to coercion. It is just like an adult with a cognitive impairment- they require additional protection under law. It is a physical, biological fact about their brains. If you add an adult into the equation you have an imbalance of power. You cannot possibly have an argument against that.
 
You’re ignoring the fact that children do not have capacity to make informed decisions - even if they have sexual feelings they are vulnerable to coercion. It is just like an adult with a cognitive impairment- they require additional protection under law. It is a physical, biological fact about their brains. If you add an adult into the equation you have an imbalance of power. You cannot possibly have an argument against that.

You put it more eloquently than me... although I am responding from the middle of a conference call because I am too angry to wait and respond properly :mad:
 
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