OK. It's time for a Bush thread...

[p_p_man]

I try to be fair and even in my posts but I haven't yet, since his Inaugeration, found anything positive I could write about Bush. In fact the more I see him or hear and read about him the more my dislike for the man just seems to grow.

Well, yesterday I pulled myself up sharp and thought 'Hang on a minute maybe I'm not giving him a fair chance.' After all I can't know everything he does and there must be something positive amongst all that stupidity that I can applaud.

I'm not talking about the "war" or how Clinton was hung up on sex or tax rebates or anything which may have been discussed and debated at length in the past.

I'm just talking about something new that I wouldn't know about and that I could appreciate.

So exactly what has Bush done for the good of America and for its citizens since he's been in office?

I'm interested...

 

[Oliver Clozoff]

PP, what would be the point? Is there really anything anyone could say that would change your opinion one iota?

 

[p_p_man]

PP, what would be the point? Is there really anything anyone could say that would change your opinion one iota?

Pobably not my overall opinion of him but at least I'd have a piece in the jigsaw which could well mellow some of my comments.

Also I actually am interested in positive things he may have achieved. I'd be the first to admit that I've a very biased picture of him.

I just want to gain a slightly more balanced one.

 

[pabloback]

I try to be fair and even in my posts but I haven't yet, since his Inaugeration, found anything positive I could write about Bush. In fact the more I see him or hear and read about him the more my dislike for the man just seems to grow.

Well, yesterday I pulled myself up sharp and thought 'Hang on a minute maybe I'm not giving him a fair chance.' After all I can't know everything he does and there must be something positive amongst all that stupidity that I can applaud.

I'm not talking about the "war" or how Clinton was hung up on sex or tax rebates or anything which may have been discussed and debated at length in the past.

I'm just talking about something new that I wouldn't know about and that I could appreciate.

So exactly what has Bush done for the good of America and for its citizens since he's been in office?

I'm interested...

more than our illustrious leader president "24hours to save the health service " blair

 

[JazzManJim]

So exactly what has Bush done for the good of America and for its citizens since he's been in office?

I'm interested...

Well, considering that less than a year into his first term terrorists declared open war on the US and our way of life by killing around five thousand people,he's been a bit busy.

Most Presidential scholars say that a President's first year is pretty much the "let's get a Cabinet in, some judges and get things settled" phase of a presidency. I'd be more interested in things in another year or so.

Besides, the things he's done which I consider good for the country are things I know you consider bad. I pay attention.

 

[miles]

PP, you kill me.

What the hell does " I want to gain a balanced view" mean?

If you want to get a more balanced view you need to get your information from all points of view - especially ones you disagree with, rather than just CNN and comic book newspapers. You pose some interesting questions, but most of the stuff you post is worthless rhetoric without a hint of the actual facts, and you draw fire from Liberals and Conservatives. It looks like you just read headlines and not the stories. I wouldn't have been surprised to see you post this:

"It was bound to happen: Too many airplanes in too little airspace above NYC. Angry Bush scapegoats Bin Laden."

 

[p_p_man]

you need to get your information from all points of view - especially ones you disagree with

That's why I've posted this thread...

 

[p_p_man]

So I take it that no-one can think of anything positive...

that Bush has done for America and her citizens?

I suppose it's what I figured really but I'd still like to know.

 

[Problem Child]

boy: "Wolf! Wolf! Goddamit, I said wolf!!! Hey, how come nobody's listening to me?"

 

[p_p_man]

Are you crying that PC?

I'm listening....

 

[morninggirl5]

Pobably not my overall opinion of him but at least I'd have a piece in the jigsaw which could well mellow some of my comments.

Also I actually am interested in positive things he may have achieved. I'd be the first to admit that I've a very biased picture of him.

I just want to gain a slightly more balanced one.

And I want to gain a more balanced view of Jeff Gordon, too.

 

[Problem Child]

Re: Are you crying that PC?

I'm listening....

King of the Jr. high comebacks.

 

[p_p_man]

So not even his supporters...

have anything good to say about the man.

I'll let this thread die tomorrow to give everyone a chance. But it looks bad for Bushbaby...

 

[KillerMuffin]

Well, if you look at the US economy and where it was heading when he took office, you'll note that it didn't do that. The dot.coms were crashing, layoffs are on the rise, and let's face it the terrorist thing is really bad on the airline industry. However, companies are still declaring a third quarter profit, and predicting at least a breakeven in the fourth quarter. The stock market has not only not crashed, but seems to have regained it's momentum.

Most importantly, people are buying things. In a time when they'd be buckling down and pinching every penny, people are still spending, which is good for the economy.

The bankruptcy rate has levelled off rather than risen steadily as it did in the past three presidential terms.

I think the fact that we're pulling through a recession instead of wallowing in a depression has a lot to say for the guy.

 

[p_p_man]

KM

Would you say that the Administration is the driving force behind the slow recovery or the determination of the American people?

I'm asking this because I haven't yet seen any form of concrete policy from the Administration. But I've seen an awful lot of single-mindedness from the people.

 

[KillerMuffin]

I would say that the terrorist thing was a lucky break for the administration and the american people in one way. They learned to unite and they re-learned that yes, we do have enemies and people who hate us.

I wouldn't venture to guess if it's Bush's policies or the people's determination that's getting the economy in gear. The Fed has cut the interest rate to nearly zero so far. There isn't much more to go. However, consumer lending is up because of it.

I do know that if people had no confidence in their government then they would be more apt to save than spend. Particular in big ticket items like new housing and vehicles. Is it the interest rate that's encouraging the borrowing or is it just the fact that everyone needs an Escalade this year? Who really knows?

When the economy is doing good, particularly in such a depressive environment, I think it's due to consumer confidence, not just in their own cash, but in the fact that they believe things will be all right. That has a lot to do with the President as well as the guys signing the paycheck.

 

[p_p_man]

KM. Thanks...

 

[LukkyKnight]

He's got to be good

we named that beer after him, not to mention all the shrubs in the entire 50 states. How cool is that?

 

[rexfelis]

Bush do something GOOD?

HA! That's funny. We should call him Shrub, because he doesn't live up to the Bush name.

I don't like Bush Sr. but I sure like him more than Shrubby, there. Shrubby is the worst president we have ever had. What took Clinton 8 years to build, he destroyed in 8 months. He has done nothing but lie, cheat and steal at every opportunity, using the terrorist attacks as a way to either cover what he's doing or push them.

By the time his term is up, I would personally not be surprised if he stayed because he was Hitler's second coming. Don't worry, you won't have any rights by the time he gets done with his term. And bet your bippy ASScroft is going to take on web sites like this.

The Republican perty has sunk so low that even Nixon would have been ashamed.

 

[p_p_man]

Bide your time anti-Bush people, bide your time...

I began this thread to see if there were any positive things he's achieved since being elected...

It is a genuine request for information.

So far only JazzManJim and KillerMuffin have replied in the spirit the thread was started...

 

[oakleyx4]

Clinton?

What did Clinton due in his 2 terms beside lie under oath and to the american people. His last 4 years he traveled around the world taking money for his wifes run at congress and avoiding questions. Clinton didnt build shit. He did nothing, he only had a good economy. The people were so sick of his and Hillarys lies that Gore lost to bush. Maybe you can tell me what he did because i cant think of anything.

 

[p_p_man]

oakleyx4

Wrong thread. As I said in the beginning. No comparisons between Clinton and Bush.

Just Bush. What has he achieved?

 

[oakleyx4]

sorry

He hasnt had time to do much. Only a couple of months in and 9-11 happened. Trying to fight a war and keep the economy from tanking will take a while.

 

[p_p_man]

Re: sorry

He hasnt had time to do much. Only a couple of months in and 9-11 happened. Trying to fight a war and keep the economy from tanking will take a while.

Other countries have managed it.

No it's really that I'm such a Bush basher I thought that I'd give the Board a chance to support him in a positive manner.

So far it ain't looking good for Bushman...

 

[rexfelis]

My apologies.

I am just very very very displeased with the current administration.

The only thing I have seen that Bush wants that I think is a good thing is resisting a tax on online purchasing.