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ABSTRUSE

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Attention heirs to English throne: Where are you?

LONDON (Reuters) - An international quest is being launched for historical heirs to the throne of England.

Advertisements appearing this week in British, U.S., Australian, German and Norwegian newspapers will ask "Can you trace your family tree back to 1066? Might your ancestors have claimed the English throne?"

Edgar Aetheling was named heir apparent by his great-uncle King Edward the Confessor but was not crowned when the King died in 1066 because he was too young. Harold II was crowned instead.

William the Conqueror crossed over from Normandy, defeating Harold at the Battle of Hastings. The teenage Aetheling later submitted to William.

English Heritage, which seeks to protect the country's historical environment, asks in its advertisements: "Are you of Edgar the Aetheling's lineage and believe you have a legitimate claim?"

Researching what might have been, genealogists are asking respondents on www.english-heritage.org.uk/hastings to supply documentary proof along with the name of their most likely "gateway ancestor."

"If William had not taken the throne in 1066, the entire course of English history would have been very different," genealogist Nick Barratt said.

"We'd probably be speaking a different language, consider our closest allies to be Scandinavian and have a completely different system of government."
 
Maybe. But I am researching my RL family tree and as far as I and others have got we have stayed well clear of the Royals. My paternal line has been traced to 1326, then there is a gap to 56BC.

However, I do have a friend who is related to one of the now defunct Royal lines. When born he was about 35th in line but births in more senior lines have now relegated him to about 200th.

However, being related to the Royals brings some baggage with it. Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth the Second traces her family back to the Norse God Woden and the Greek Goddess Aphrodite. That is perhaps inappropriate for the Head of the Church of England...

Og

PS. As Og, of course I am my own ancestor. I was around before Adam and Eve and survived Noah's flood. Unfortunately I was killed about 3000BC but you can't have everything.
 
ABSTRUSE said:
...Edgar Aetheling was named heir apparent by his great-uncle King Edward the Confessor but was not crowned when the King died in 1066 because he was too young. Harold II was crowned instead.

William the Conqueror crossed over from Normandy, defeating Harold at the Battle of Hastings. The teenage Aetheling later submitted to William.

English Heritage, which seeks to protect the country's historical environment, asks in its advertisements: "Are you of Edgar the Aetheling's lineage and believe you have a legitimate claim?"



Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth the Second is "Of Edgar the Aetheling's lineage." She probably has the most legitimate claim, whatever branches of the English Royals you trace.

Og
 
oggbashan said:
Maybe. But I am researching my RL family tree and as far as I and others have got we have stayed well clear of the Royals. My paternal line has been traced to 1326, then there is a gap to 56BC.

However, I do have a friend who is related to one of the now defunct Royal lines. When born he was about 35th in line but births in more senior lines have now relegated him to about 200th.

However, being related to the Royals brings some baggage with it. Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth the Second traces her family back to the Norse God Woden and the Greek Goddess Aphrodite. That is perhaps inappropriate for the Head of the Church of England...

Og

PS. As Og, of course I am my own ancestor. I was around before Adam and Eve and survived Noah's flood. Unfortunately I was killed about 3000BC but you can't have everything.
Wow, that is so interesting, 1326...that's unbelievable.

Og was killed, I never saw the obit....I'll send a card.
 
My mother's side is, of course, difficult at best to trace, but on my father's, my sister has us back to 1007 (Duncan I MacCrinan, King of Scotland - slain by MacBeth), and surprise! Margaret Atheling (1045).
 
oggbashan said:
Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth the Second is "Of Edgar the Aetheling's lineage." She probably has the most legitimate claim, whatever branches of the English Royals you trace.
She is? So how did that work? Who did Aetheling marry?
 
ABSTRUSE said:
William the Conqueror crossed over from Normandy, defeating Harold at the Battle of Hastings.
Yep. All thanks to the stirrup. Willie's horsemen had it and it helped them to win in their fight against Harold.

I kinda wonder though...do you think Harold would have given back the throne? If William had not even tried to take it from him, I mean.
 
3113 said:
She is? So how did that work? Who did Aetheling marry?

I think the answer to the third question is: No one.

She is descended from one of his ancestors and both of them ultimately from Woden. Woden-born was one of the requirements to be an Anglo-Saxon monarch.

Og
 
ABSTRUSE said:
William the Conqueror crossed over from Normandy, defeating Harold at the Battle of Hastings.

I can trace mine all the way back to him. Do you think I'd have a fair shot at the crown? :cool:
 
oggbashan said:
She is descended from one of his ancestors and both of them ultimately from Woden. Woden-born was one of the requirements to be an Anglo-Saxon monarch.
Are we talking one-eyed Woden with the ravens and the Wagner Opera...or are we talking a real guy?
 
3113 said:
Are we talking one-eyed Woden with the ravens and the Wagner Opera...or are we talking a real guy?

Yes. and possibly yes again. The Anglo-Saxon Kings (and most other Norse Kings) claimed to be descended from the God Woden - he of the ravens and Wagner. I don't know who the woman was who claimed to have been impregnated by Woden.

Og
 
I can trace my ancestry back to my grand parrents, and they aren't English...
 
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