Obligatory Sex

[slyc_willie]

. . . in stories, I mean.

I'm currently 33k words into my latest story. I've got four lead characters; incestuous, sociopathic twin brothers and the two detectives investigating them. So far, everyone has gotten laid at least once, except for my lead detective. He's a divorced career cop. Now, after everyone else has had repeated fun, I feel almost an obligation to let him get a little. There's a reasonable lull in the story, and there's enough background that he could conceivably enjoy a booty call. But is it necessary?

Ultimately, of course, the entire story would work without explicit sex scenes. So, since I have sex written in, why not a sex scene just for the sake of sex? I'm at a quandary.

Anyone else feel an obligation to get a certain character laid?

 

[_Lynn_]

Not me, but I tend to write in the romance and non-erotic categories most of the time anyway. However, in your example, I don't see the need for obligatory sex. That would seem too planned, as if every character has to have sex to make a complete story.

 

[slyc_willie]

Not me, but I tend to write in the romance and non-erotic categories most of the time anyway. However, in your example, I don't see the need for obligatory sex. That would seem too planned, as if every character has to have sex to make a complete story.

If I just threw it in there for the sake of him getting laid, yeah, I think I'd agree. But I could expand upon it later, and therefore make the woman he's with mean at least something to him as the story progresses. Then it might not feel obligatory. But it would mean me adding more work to an already exhaustive story.

What to do, what to do . . . .

 

[PayDay]

There's a reasonable lull in the story, and there's enough background that he could conceivably enjoy a booty call. But is it necessary?

!! Don't do it !!

Ultimately, of course, the entire story would work without explicit sex scenes. So, since I have sex written in, why not a sex scene just for the sake of sex? I'm at a quandary.

Anyone else feel an obligation to get a certain character laid?

Make it a good one, story ender, add some tears = A+ Ppro.

goo d story > c heap thrill

 

[_Lynn_]

If I just threw it in there for the sake of him getting laid, yeah, I think I'd agree. But I could expand upon it later, and therefore make the woman he's with mean at least something to him as the story progresses. Then it might not feel obligatory. But it would mean me adding more work to an already exhaustive story.

What to do, what to do . . . .

You're hesitating and thinking about it instead of just writing it . . . so leave it out.

 

[slyc_willie]

You're hesitating and thinking about it instead of just writing it . . . so leave it out.

Actually, I started writing it between posts. I do that a lot. I can always cut it later, I figure.

 

[MatthewVett]

You're hesitating and thinking about it instead of just writing it . . . so leave it out.

I agree with this. If you're just putting it in to satisfy some low attention span readers, just leave it out.

 

[sr71plt]

I try to have motivation serving the plot or characterization in each booty call. Can that be managed with the detective? Or is the tension of the reader expecting him to get some at some point and that never happening worth leaving him high and dry?

 

[slyc_willie]

Taking everything just posted into account, I'm thinking I may put the scene in there.

I established already that the lead detective is divorced. I could make his lover the reason for that, and now, months later, he calls up his lover out of the blue. They meet, they do it. Later in the story, the detective is wounded. His lover comes to see him, but can't handle the reality of being romantically involved with a cop.

So it becomes part of my lead detective's character, and the scene is not just sex for sex's sake.

 

[sr71plt]

Sounds good.

 

[slyc_willie]

Sounds good.

I'll see how it goes. But I always like adding more dimension to a character.

 

[PayDay]

I'll see how it goes. But I always like adding more dimension to a character.

Double or nothing?

asin: good booty call 2 later epic love?

or just humpin?

 

[NekoParks]

. . . in stories, I mean.

I'm currently 33k words into my latest story. I've got four lead characters; incestuous, sociopathic twin brothers and the two detectives investigating them. So far, everyone has gotten laid at least once, except for my lead detective. He's a divorced career cop. Now, after everyone else has had repeated fun, I feel almost an obligation to let him get a little. There's a reasonable lull in the story, and there's enough background that he could conceivably enjoy a booty call. But is it necessary?

Ultimately, of course, the entire story would work without explicit sex scenes. So, since I have sex written in, why not a sex scene just for the sake of sex? I'm at a quandary.

Anyone else feel an obligation to get a certain character laid?

Is he attractive? If he's attractive, then by all means, have him get laid. LOL.

Why should he be the only one not getting any in the story? He is straight or bi or gay? Just curious. As a female reader, if there is an attractive male character in the story, then I always enjoy reading and finding out what the male character's like in the sack. Just because I'm a lady doesn't mean that I don't have a curious and dirty mind too. Inquiring minds like to know for sure.

 

[slyc_willie]

Is he attractive? If he's attractive, then by all means, have him get laid. LOL.

Why should he be the only one not getting any in the story? He is straight or bi or gay? Just curious. As a female reader, if there is an attractive male character in the story, then I always enjoy reading and finding out what the male character's like in the sack. Just because I'm a lady doesn't mean that I don't have a curious and dirty mind too. Inquiring minds like to know for sure.

I've described him as a well-built man in his 40s. He's Pakistani by birth but has lived practically his entire life in the States, and was raised with Western ideals, so he's very Americanized. Don't know why I gave him the heritage I did; just felt like it, I guess.

He hasn't been involved in any sex scenes because he's the workaholic type, recently divorced. Stereotypical, I know, but that's what I wrote. There just weren't any convenient reasons to have him get laid. His partner, on the other hand, has been quite active. I wrote her as a lesbian in a committed relationship (I've based her on a past friend), using her loving relationship with her partner as a counter to the gruesome sexuality of the evil twins. But it dawned on me that my lead character should get his fair share as well.

 

[sr71plt]

He's Pakistani by birth but has lived practically his entire life in the States, and was raised with Western ideals, so he's very Americanized. Don't know why I gave him the heritage I did; just felt like it, I guess.

Somewhere down the line, you may find out why you did that. This happens to me frequently. I let some quirky element get written in and later it becomes a major hook. My mind has known what it was going to do with that first mention, although it wasn't sharing that with me yet.

If you'd made him an Indian, the hook could have been that, surprisingly, he proves, in sex, to be a master of elite kamasutra. I don't know if there's a Pakistani equivalent.

 

[NekoParks]

I've described him as a well-built man in his 40s. He's Pakistani by birth but has lived practically his entire life in the States, and was raised with Western ideals, so he's very Americanized. Don't know why I gave him the heritage I did; just felt like it, I guess.

He hasn't been involved in any sex scenes because he's the workaholic type, recently divorced. Stereotypical, I know, but that's what I wrote. There just weren't any convenient reasons to have him get laid. His partner, on the other hand, has been quite active. I wrote her as a lesbian in a committed relationship (I've based her on a past friend), using her loving relationship with her partner as a counter to the gruesome sexuality of the evil twins. But it dawned on me that my lead character should get his fair share as well.

He sounds intriguing...as a reader I would really, really love to read more about him...even a spin off story that featured him. Those workaholic types can be the most interesting and passionate characters-- in and out of the bedroom. I'm a sucker for those serious, intelligent types--maybe even fatally attracted to smart geeky men.

 

[JackLuis]

If you're going to do it, make her an Paki chick that calls him for the booty call.

She couldn't live with him as a cop, but she just has to fuck him once more before she goes back to Lahore and marries the one her Daddy arranged.

The Sex is great, epic and stupendous, but she can't bear to worry about him coming home in a bag someday!


Pathos and self loathing makes him even more ruthless and when he catches the twins, he does them hard!

 

[slyc_willie]

Somewhere down the line, you may find out why you did that. This happens to me frequently. I let some quirky element get written in and later it becomes a major hook. My mind has known what it was going to do with that first mention, although it wasn't sharing that with me yet.

If you'd made him an Indian, the hook could have been that, surprisingly, he proves, in sex, to be a master of elite kamasutra. I don't know if there's a Pakistani equivalent.

I recently did a speech for a class concerning the Gurkhas, and found a lot of similarities between them, Indians, and other people of the region. Pakistanis, however, don't seem to have shared more than basic culture with their Indian neighbors. At any rate, the Kamasutra angle would be unnecessary for this story. I think. Then again, I've learned to never say never when it comes to writing.

He sounds intriguing...as a reader I would really, really love to read more about him...even a spin off story that featured him. Those workaholic types can be the most interesting and passionate characters-- in and out of the bedroom. I'm a sucker for those serious, intelligent types--maybe even fatally attracted to smart geeky men.

Riaz Parande would definitely be up your alley, then. No pun intended. He's equal parts methodical and passionate in just about everything he does.

Come to think of it, this sex scene could really illustrate those two sides of his personality.

If you're going to do it, make her an Paki chick that calls him for the booty call.

She couldn't live with him as a cop, but she just has to fuck him once more before she goes back to Lahore and marries the one her Daddy arranged.

The Sex is great, epic and stupendous, but she can't bear to worry about him coming home in a bag someday!


Pathos and self loathing makes him even more ruthless and when he catches the twins, he does them hard!

Uh . . . no.

 

[NekoParks]

Riaz Parande would definitely be up your alley, then. No pun intended. He's equal parts methodical and passionate in just about everything he does.

Come to think of it, this sex scene could really illustrate those two sides of his personality.

Just don't put him with a silly or shallow woman...sort of like serving prime filet mignon with ketchup...LOL..

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

I let stuff marinate for years, and I recently learned to let a story sit until the right stuff comes.

 

[Stella_Omega]

I've described him as a well-built man in his 40s. He's Pakistani by birth but has lived practically his entire life in the States, and was raised with Western ideals, so he's very Americanized. Don't know why I gave him the heritage I did; just felt like it, I guess.

He hasn't been involved in any sex scenes because he's the workaholic type, recently divorced. Stereotypical, I know, but that's what I wrote. There just weren't any convenient reasons to have him get laid. His partner, on the other hand, has been quite active. I wrote her as a lesbian in a committed relationship (I've based her on a past friend), using her loving relationship with her partner as a counter to the gruesome sexuality of the evil twins. But it dawned on me that my lead character should get his fair share as well.

That's why you should get him laid-- just because the readers will want to see him lay down his sword just for a little while. It's like a side plot, in my imagination at least.

 

[jomar]

My thought was to let him get close but a variety of stuff keeps him from closing the deal. Then in the end, if he gets the bad guys, he also gets laid and...scene.

 

[slyc_willie]

I let stuff marinate for years, and I recently learned to let a story sit until the right stuff comes.

I did let it sit for a few days, while I wrote that Amish story. When I came back to it, that was when it hit me that I might want to put the scene in.

That's why you should get him laid-- just because the readers will want to see him lay down his sword just for a little while. It's like a side plot, in my imagination at least.

I think I had some of that notion in the back of my head. He's a pretty uptight guy, frustrated for a variety of reasons. Maybe getting a little will help him focus.

My thought was to let him get close but a variety of stuff keeps him from closing the deal. Then in the end, if he gets the bad guys, he also gets laid and...scene.

I did consider that. I actually went back and added a short scene in which he calls his past lover, but it was late and she wasn't up to meeting him. Then the next scene is about his partner and her partner/wife.

 

[jomar]

I...

I did consider that. I actually went back and added a short scene in which he calls his past lover, but it was late and she wasn't up to meeting him. Then the next scene is about his partner and her partner/wife.

My thinking was, for those that pay attention and enjoy slinging it, frustrating him sexually, although he has opportunities that fall apart but keeps trying, parallels his experience as a detective trying to bring the bad guys to justice and finally prevailing.

Though giving him a rich and varied sex life while cutting corners in the interest of justice juxtaposed against the professional dry spell catching the bad guys and their debauchery might be interesting as well...the old two sides of a coin thing.

 

[slyc_willie]

My thinking was, for those that pay attention and enjoy slinging it, frustrating him sexually, although he has opportunities that fall apart but keeps trying, parallels his experience as a detective trying to bring the bad guys to justice and finally prevailing.

Though giving him a rich and varied sex life while cutting corners in the interest of justice juxtaposed against the professional dry spell catching the bad guys and their debauchery might be interesting as well...the old two sides of a coin thing.

If the story primarily focused on Riaz, I may have done something like this. I like the idea of the supposedly studly main character becoming repeatedly frustrated sexually, even if he does everything else right, only to be ultimately and finally rewarded. But I'm basically juggling four personalities in this story, and I want to spend equal time on them. I'm taking as inspiration the way Joss Whedon handled having all the Avengers in one movie and giving them equal "shine" moments. It's not an easy thing to do.