OBL still alive ... stay tuned ...

[Rex1960]

"Ossama bin Laden is still alive"

is the headline in most of our German Newspapers this morning.

"In order to prove their existence and abilities, Al-Qaida is going to attack another major target", said August Hanning, Head of the BND(German Federal Intelligence Agency).

 

[weed]

I wonder how much a major terrorist hit in the U.S. would affect our mission in Iraq.

Fuel or water on the fire?

 

[Rex1960]

I'm still clueless why we didn't find OBL already ... wonder if he still hides somewhere in the Afghan-Pakistani region.

According to the articles the Al-Qaida is still working.

 

[SINthysist]

Osama's Son Dead. US HEADLINES this AM.

BTW REX - Osama Dead too.

Both got bombed, No Osama remains. Only leg o' Son remains. Germany should learn to trust Israeli Intelligence...

 

[Rex1960]

Osama's Son Dead. US HEADLINES this AM.

BTW REX - Osama Dead too.

Both got bombed, No Osama remains. Only leg o' Son remains. Germany should learn to trust Israeli Intelligence...

?? where - in that car in Yemen ?

 

[Rex1960]

They only tell us, Ali Kaid Sinian el Harithi and five other Al-Qaida members were killed.

 

[SINthysist]

Oh yeah, the son is in custody...

What's the diff?

We're winning!

 

[Rex1960]

from my POV it takes too long to get OBL.

 

[SINthysist]

We blew up Tora Bora some months ago.

 

[Lost Cause]

If Osama Bin Lately was alive...

He's be waggin his stringy buttcrack in our faces as soon as he could. He didn't waste anytime while we were bombing Tora Bora, he still mocked us. If he wanted to be seen, he could have Al Jizzera interview him directly, or even Russian TV.
I think he was that tall figure in white that was spotted with a small group of Al Qaeda heroes. That was just before the CIA hit 'em with a fucking bomb! They landed a forensic team, and produced little scraps left over to fly back for DNA matching.
We should drop OBL's kid live from a Predator onto the family villa in broad daylight. Leave a calling card.

P.S. I like your eagle! Is it paratrooper?

 

[SINthysist]

COOL Lost!

I thought it was the US Postal Eagle.

 

[Rex1960]

I just wonder why a German intelligence official would say, OBL was alive and the network was working, when there was no evidence. I mean, I somehow know this agency...

and yes it is a para

 

[SINthysist]

Because Germany is itching to make deals with Iraq along with Russia and it's ice-skating ally France as per this AM's US Headlines.

Look, as I've pointed out so many times before,

Al Qaeda simply cannot afford for Osama to be dead.
Bush's enemies and detractors simply cannot afford for Osama to be dead and make Bush look good.
Bush cannot come out and say it without a body because then we will have dozens, even hundreds of fabricated Osama clips and messages in order to make Bush look wrong.

Get the picture?




He's dead...

 

[Lost Cause]

I thought so......

I trained with the GSG-9 Group a ways back, most had that eagle as I recall. (Fall-sharm-yayger) *can't spell it. FRG paratroopers, great people, dedicated soldiers.
Like I said, if OBL was alive, he'd be doing a variety show on some television over there. We'll see.

 

[busybody..]

SINincest

While Israeli intelligence reports OBL dead, reliable Isreali sources say otherwise..........Hiding in soon to be ex allies Saudia Arabian dessert.



Bin Laden Is Back in Saudi Arabia - Is Working Closely with Baghdad

DEBKA Exclusive - Based on summary of latest DEBKA-Net-Weekly Revelations

October 19, 2002, 1:58 PM (GMT+02:00)


Osama bin Laden


DEBKAfile reveals that the long-lost al Qaeda leader, Saudi-born Osama bin Laden, is alive and in Saudi Arabia. He is believed to have landed secretly at the end of September, shortly before the latest upsurge of international terrorist attacks against the French oil tanker Limburg, the shooting of American Marines in Kuwait, the Bali bomb disaster.

This exclusive information reached DEBKA-Net-Weekly (October 18, Issue 81) from its most credible intelligence and counter-intelligence sources. His re-appearance in Saudi Arabia, which withdrew his citizenship and sent him into exile, brings to a close the debate and speculation rife since the Tora Bora battle in Afghanistan 11 months ago over Bin Laden’s fate and whereabouts.

Two sightings of the elusive terrorist chief have now been reported – both in the wildest, most inhospitable regions of Saudi Arabia, the Rub al Khali, the Empty Quarter of the Arabian Peninsula, and Najran on the Yemen frontier.

DEBKA-Net-Weekly’s sources are certain that Bin Laden has brought with him his closest companions - his Number Two and chief of operations, the Egyptian Ayman Zuwahri, the hard core of the Islamic terror group’s command, his close family and his bodyguard. The size of this party indicates the al Qaeda leadership’s belief they have found a safe hideout, situated in the Rimar Ar Rakabh (Rider’s Dunes), deep inside the Empty Quarter, a 220,000- sq. m expanse, the largest sand sea on the face of the earth which straddles Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Yemen and Oman.

Here, the al Qaeda chief was seen on horseback - the way he was often depicted in Afghanistan before the American 2001 invasion - reportedly riding through the barren lands of the nomadic Al Murrah tribe, about 100 m southwest of the Al Ghawar oil fields.

No signs of disability or ill health were on view.

The Al Murrah, renowned as first rate field scouts, are among the fiercest elements of the extremist Muslim Wahabi sect, Saudi Arabia’s state religion, and number some of Bin Laden’s most fervent followers. Without friends in the Al Murrah, this empty wasteland is impassable and uninhabitable.

The second bin Laden sighting took place in the Najran, a region lying across the frontier between the south Saudi province of Asir and Yemen. Here, he was observed on Saudi Bani Yam Saudi tribal land opposite Oman on the fringes of the Empty Quarter. The Bani Yam are close allies of the neighboring Yemeni tribes of the Hadhramauth, the Saudi-born terrorist’s ancestral homeland.

In the Najran, Bin Laden is not only within reach of his Yemeni friends and kinsmen, but in a position to control and deploy the 700 al Qaeda fighters who escaped Afghanistan at the end of 2001 and early 2002 and set up base in the Asir province.

Al Qaeda fugitives from the Afghan War have settled at strategic points in the Gulf and Middle East Region, a legion of close to 2,000 battle-seasoned zealots, ready and waiting for orders. Intelligence estimates reaching DEBKA-Net-Weekly place around 1,000 fighting men inside Saudi Arabia, most concentrated in the Asir, the rest scattered round the kingdom; 300-400 in Yemen; 150 in the south Lebanese Palestinian refugee camp at Ein Hilwa; 300 in Mashhad, northern Iran; and 150 in the north Iraqi Kurdish districts of Bayara and Tawalla, where Iraqi instructors trained al Qaeda operatives in chemical warfare earlier this year.

His presence in Saudi Arabia explains the easy flow and frequency of statements and messages reaching the Arabic satellite TV station al Jazeera and other media in the region this month from Bin Laden and his lieutenant, that were succeeded in rapid succession by fresh terror outbreaks. Some even speculate in Washington that the mystery sniper who has murdered 9 in the Washington area this month may be an al Qaeda operative.

The most intriguing question is this: How did the Islamic terror master manage to slip into Saudi Arabia? What political and intelligence elements lent him a hand? The American and British maintain an extensive military intelligence presence in the Gulf region for the buildup to the war on Iraq. Without a helping hand from some governmental body or official, Bin Laden and his top staff could not have touched Persian Gulf soil, let alone Saudi Arabia.

How he manages to move in the dark was indicated in the testimony presented by National Security Agency Director Michael Hayden at a Senate hearing. He admitted that these terrorists have learned how to evade US interception technology (first reported by DNW on September 6: Al Qaeda Messages Still Invisible.) While the terrorists are able to feed disinformation to the NSA, US intelligence has virtually no clue that any attack is coming.

What US intelligence has picked up is the deadly partnership taking shape between Iraq and al Qaeda, whose potential for damage gives its heads sleepless nights.

It enables Saddam to vicariously hit US Gulf forces, including warships and carriers and strike at US targets outside the region, as well as giving him the power to manipulate oil prices by sabotaging oil installations and routes, using al Qaeda as his proxy.

And there is more. DEBKA-Net-Weekly’s intelligence sources report the al Qaeda’s return in the last two weeks to their previous training bases at Bayara and Tawalla in northern Iraq. Some 150-180 fighting men are assembled no more than 200 km from the US-Turkish special forces vanguard in the north. They have been joined by a large group of Iraqi military intelligence officers. Together, they have set up a new pro-Saddam enclave of al Qaeda, Iraqi intelligence and Kurdish Islamic extremists in northern Iraq to serve Baghdad as a thorn in the side of the American campaign.

Our intelligence source comments: If Iraqi intelligence and al Qaeda work so well together, there is nothing to stop them from expanding their joint operation to other places, even the United States itself.”

This is what the CIA director George Tenet may have had in mind when he said to the same Senate committee hearing on Thursday, October 17, that the danger of a terrorist attack being attempted on American soil was as acute today as it was before September 11, 2001.

Bin Laden’s return to Saudi Arabia and the bracketing together of al Qaeda and Saddam Hussein confront the Bush administration with new and pressing dilemmas, such as: Whom to go after first? The top al Qaeda command which eluded capture in Afghanistan, or the Iraqi ruler?

These and other explosive revelations appear in the latest issue of our exclusive intelligence electronic publication DEBKA-Net-Weekly for subscribers. For information on how to place your order, click HERE .

 

[SINthysist]

And I can C&P a recent article from a Pakistanni official with proof that Osama's alive and well in Peshwar.

Another authentic source said...

 

[Rex1960]

I got your picture.

In my POV OBL is on the run like Dr. Kimble. He can't afford to show his face yet for publicity only. The Tora Bora bombing destroyed his HQ and the communication center. And maybe he needed time to rebuild that and recover from some major injuries.

 

[SINthysist]

Dead, dead, deadski...

 

[Rex1960]

Re: I thought so......

I trained with the GSG-9 Group a ways back, most had that eagle as I recall. (Fall-sharm-yayger) *can't spell it. FRG paratroopers, great people, dedicated soldiers.
Like I said, if OBL was alive, he'd be doing a variety show on some television over there. We'll see.

Fallschirmjäger - lol
This eagle is sticked at the left side of their purple red baret. They are part of the Germany Army (paratrooper division) , now building the main part of our Special Forces Command.
The GSG-9 (Grenzschutzgruppe 9) is part of the federal boarder police forces. I guess they have that eagle as a medal attached on their chests. Like all, who passed paratrooper training.

 

[Lost Cause]

I can see why you made this thread..

We'll just have to see what happens, or where the next Predator flies.


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Western spy agencies also have noted an increase in worldwide communications among members of the terrorist network in recent weeks and months, said August Hanning, director of Germany's Federal Intelligence Service.

"We see no all-clear signal at this time. Rather, we are seeing an increase in [terrorist] activities," Hanning said in a speech to a security conference in Berlin.

Bin Laden and his top deputy, Ayman al-Zawahiri, are suspected of hiding in the Afghan-Pakistani border area southeast of the Afghan capital Kabul, he said.

The United States has said it does not know whether bin Laden, who is suspected of orchestrating the Sept. 11 attacks, is alive.

Hanning has previously said that German intelligence believes bin Laden is most likely alive and that Al Qaeda remains a potent threat despite the destruction of its bases in Afghanistan.

In his speech Monday, Hanning said Al Qaeda's ability to mobilize followers in Arab countries and Europe "remains relatively high."

A cell of the Sept. 11 allegedly plotted the attacks while in Hamburg and Hanning said such activity remains a threat. "We see that recruiting is going on," he said. "We have European centers that are still being used for recruiting today."

German authorities have increased anti-terror precautions since a speaker said to be al-Zawahiri issued a warning to U.S. allies to get out of the Muslim world in a taped interview circulated last month.

"The mujahid youth has already sent messages to Germany and France," the speaker said. "However, if these doses are not enough, we are prepared with the help of Allah, to inject further doses."

A May 8 attack on a bus in Pakistan killed 11 French engineers and an April 11 blast at a synagogue in Tunisia killed 16 people, including 11 Germans. Both attacks have been linked to Al Qaeda.

 

[Rex1960]

Where are our local CIA special agents when we need them ?

Hey, SIN and ISH, don't hide !!

 

[SINthysist]

I'm FBI. Ish is NSA. Don't tell Dixon. He'll blab...

 

[Rex1960]

oops

(whispering)
And who is supervising your undercover agent REDWAVE ?

 

[SINthysist]

Hannnnnnnnnnnssssssssssssssssss....................

 

[Rex1960]

LMAO

ssshhh ... the secret password !! you better c&p soon