Obama's perp walk

Never going to happen. The "race card" is already being made into a parade float.
 
Be bad precedent, in any case. Not being in charge and having his abuse of power sunlit is "punishment" enough, probably.

Most politicians are sociopaths and you can't really shame a sociopath anyway, so what is the point?

There is no chance Comey us ever going to see himself accurately. His righteous ending nation is not Buster in cover he actually believe his bullshit.

I doubt Obama is any different.

If the ever catch Trump in actual wrongdoing instead of faux and fabricated wrongdoing, he won't be penitent. He will be just as sure of his righteousness and with all the phoney previous efforts, most of his followers, like Obama's will buy his self-appraisal.
 
If Obama isn’t punished for this, does that mean it will be okay for Trump to tell his FBI director to investigate his political rivals?
 
Flynn's 'unmasking'

  • Biden will not be the Democratic nominee
  • Trump will be re-elected
  • Obama's going to jail
 
What should happen and what will happen

  • Biden will not be the Democratic nominee
  • Trump will be re-elected
  • Obama's going to jail


Some may feel that the above list is logical and in a logical world those things would happen. But, sad to say, this is not a logical world.

First, the swamp doesn't care at all about Trump's views on politics and neither do they. They take stands on whatever will win them votes just to absorb power. (Left and right) That is the real reason they hate Trump and attack him every waking moment.

Many of these deep state swamp creatures know that if they are exposed they could go to prison and be stripped of all power. To avoid that they will do anything to block Trump from draining the swamp. Before they would allow Obama to go to jail many others would be tossed under the bus. And some would be aided to committee suicide or have mysterious things happen to them.

If Obama did end up going to prison that would be the new standard for every future POTUS. The leftists would want any political enemy to be sent to prison. It could happen but if it did it would result in a second and even more deadly civil war in the USA.

Hollywood elites, fake religious leaders, deep state swamp creatures and associated politicians along with fake news outlets and egotistical leftist educators have turned the whole world into a polluted cesspool.

Looks to me like a storm is brewing.
 
Barr has already said that neither Obama nor Biden are targets. (Of course Comey was fired for refusing to state publicly what he told Trump about him not being a target. Which was a lie in any case.)

Barr's decision is possibly because both have plausible deniability or (less likely) no culpability whatsoever. It is likely wisely deferential to political considerations and precedents such a thing would set. We can't afford to gave each successive DOJ imprison the previous administration.

While in office, Obama could have easily been impeached for any number of scandals because impeachment can be a political process. No one considered it because of the optics of tossing the "historuc" president. It was reasonably assumed that voters would not reelect with such an anemic recovery. Once re-elected, overturning the legitimate rrelection would have been even worse optics.

Obama sniping from the sidelines is all the garm he can do now, and it harms his legacy more than the country.

We as a country do not need to see another administration presuming to interfere with candidates including Coney's bizzare effort to inoculate Clinton with a weirdly tortured non-investigation followed by conflicted dtatements.

Staying out of it is better for the country, especially in an election year. It also is better optics for Republicans and will grant more legitimacy (not that the leftists will acknowledge it) should Trump win a second term.
 
Pile The Bullshit Higher!



“When the FBI circulated [the report], they included Flynn’s name from the beginning” because it was essential to understanding its significance, said a former senior U.S. official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe sensitive intelligence. “There were therefore no requests for the unmasking of that information.”


washingtonpost.com/national-security/michael-flynns-name-was-never-masked-in-fbi-document-on-his-communications-with-russian-ambassador/2020/05/20/e94ee050-9a0b-11ea-ac72-3841fcc9b35f_story.html
 
Always Wrong is late to the knowledge that the *call* was not unmasked and does not realize the significance. It means they went in and got the call because they were already listening in on the call and knew where to look. This is worse, not better and shows they were *lying* when they earlier claimed hus call had been incidentally collected.

Flynn unmaskings, which actually occured, happened *before* the call which Weissman et al claimed was the problematic one that triggered concern. What then, was the predicate for the earlier snooping?
 
Be bad precedent, in any case. Not being in charge and having his abuse of power sunlit is "punishment" enough, probably.

Most politicians are sociopaths and you can't really shame a sociopath anyway, so what is the point?

There is no chance Comey us ever going to see himself accurately. His righteous ending nation is not Buster in cover he actually believe his bullshit.

I doubt Obama is any different.

If the ever catch Trump in actual wrongdoing instead of faux and fabricated wrongdoing, he won't be penitent. He will be just as sure of his righteousness and with all the phoney previous efforts, most of his followers, like Obama's will buy his self-appraisal.


Your statement is spot on. The corruption is so deep it's hard to wrap your head around it. Politicians are shameless, they don't fucking care about the truth! Power at all cost. By the way, why aren't the republican cowards fighting back. Nancy is forming another posse for impeachment and the pubs are going to look the other way. Lindsey is a spineless patsy. Several criminal referrals and nothing!! Comey and Hillary should be in jail and yet nothing!!! Barr has no bite!
 
Always Wrong is late to the knowledge that the *call* was not unmasked and does not realize the significance. It means they went in and got the call because they were already listening in on the call and knew where to look. This is worse, not better and shows they were *lying* when they earlier claimed hus call had been incidentally collected.

Flynn unmaskings, which actually occured, happened *before* the call which Weissman et al claimed was the problematic one that triggered concern. What then, was the predicate for the earlier snooping?



Weissmann is a piece of shit but still practicing. Nancy has more power and influence than Trump!
 
Always Wrong is late to the knowledge that the *call* was not unmasked and does not realize the significance. It means they went in and got the call because they were already listening in on the call and knew where to look. This is worse, not better and shows they were *lying* when they earlier claimed hus call had been incidentally collected.

Flynn unmaskings, which actually occured, happened *before* the call which Weissman et al claimed was the problematic one that triggered concern. What then, was the predicate for the earlier snooping?


If Lindsey and Durham don't produce, mark my words, the dems will win the senate because the pub base will have lost faith in the party.
 
Always Wrong is late to the knowledge that the *call* was not unmasked and does not realize the significance. It means they went in and got the call because they were already listening in on the call and knew where to look. This is worse, not better and shows they were *lying* when they earlier claimed hus call had been incidentally collected.

Flynn unmaskings, which actually occured, happened *before* the call which Weissman et al claimed was the problematic one that triggered concern. What then, was the predicate for the earlier snooping?



Were they "snooping" on the Trump campaign/incoming administration, or were they listening in on Kisylak, something that I'd hope any administration would be doing?
 
Were they "snooping" on the Trump campaign/incoming administration, or were they listening in on Kisylak, something that I'd hope any administration would be doing?

Do try to follow along.

The snooping (That they indisputedly were doing, based on prior unmaskings that you are ignoring, so no need for scare quotes) *predates* the Kislyak call.

The "we just happened to be listening to Kislyak" is off the table because there was no unmasking. They did not have to ask who Kislyak was talking to, which means it was filed under "Flynn," not Kislyak.

In this case, it is thought that that particular intercept was accomplished using foreign intelligence services.

Also, your strawman about spying in the campaign (which I neither said or implied) is conflating two different (but related by actors and methods) scandals. They used Carter Page to two-hop all Trump campaign communications. Pay attention to the calendar. The unmaskings were post election and designed to find something, anything on Flynn because Flynn was s threat to the reveal of the first scandal. They expected to win. They didn't find anything so the lied about both what the transcript actually said and what Flynn said about what was said in the call. By tweaking both ends the crested a lue that never happened, much less with intent, much less that had a material effect on an open investigation, which, not incidentally was not an active investigation.
 
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Your statement is spot on. The corruption is so deep it's hard to wrap your head around it. Politicians are shameless, they don't fucking care about the truth! Power at all cost. By the way, why aren't the republican cowards fighting back. Nancy is forming another posse for impeachment and the pubs are going to look the other way. Lindsey is a spineless patsy. Several criminal referrals and nothing!! Comey and Hillary should be in jail and yet nothing!!! Barr has no bite!

Republicans probably have plenty of skeletons in their closets. Biden-style personal profit is the norm, not the exception.

There's nothing about having an "R" after your name that suggest ls a lack of corruotion.
 
Republicans probably have plenty of skeletons in their closets. Biden-style personal profit is the norm, not the exception.

There's nothing about having an "R" after your name that suggest ls a lack of corruotion.



Indeed! :cool:
 
President Obama had carte blanche to do anything.

So spying on political opponents, journalists, congressional members, US citizens, and other countries was just an extension of his Get Out of Jail Free position.

He did all of that but he's like, cool, ya know.
 
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