obamacare RIP! may you retards get a job and pay for it!

[NeverEndingMe]

hopefully that fucktard cuckold obama doesn't do an executive order to try and save obamacare

 

[Blue]

What's so bad about it?
Sure it's a gift cheque to private insurance and healthcare providers, but it's still helped out millions of people. No?

 

[NeverEndingMe]

What's so bad about it?
Sure it's a gift cheque to private insurance and healthcare providers, but it's still helped out millions of people. No?

people need to pay for their own insurance and get off welfare

 

[talis13]

people need to pay for their own insurance and get off welfare

Another uninformed bagger type.
Obama care helps WORKING AMERICANS more than non-working Americans.
Turn off Savage, Hannity and the like and learn something.
And for the record it is the red states that are the moocher states.
Yes, conservatives are the real moochers.

 

[NeverEndingMe]

Another uninformed bagger type.
Obama care helps WORKING AMERICANS more than non-working Americans.
Turn off Savage, Hannity and the like and learn something.
And for the record it is the red states that are the moocher states.
Yes, conservatives are the real moochers.

omg, you are a fucking retard. how much of the obama ass juice do you smoke in a day?

asshole, obamacare is fucking welfare. wake the fuck up.

p.s. obamacare is failing!

 

[zotique]

The fundamental mythos of American culture, is that no matter how poor or humble your birth, you can through grit, spunk and hard work become wealthy and prosperous.

On the face of it, and from the perspective of a class divided Europe, that seems incredibly noble and empowering. The idea that there is that much social mobility, that anyone can forge their own destiny is a powerful part of the American psyche. When it happens, it is an incredible thing. Something Americans can feel proud of.

However, there is a dark side to this mythos. Which is this ... if anyone can win through hard work and effort, anyone who doesn't win, therefore deserves to be poor.

At the core of all the anti-health care reforms is the single concept "why should I pay for the healthcare of those losers."


This was also captured brilliantly by John Steinbeck who famously said:

Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.

 

[NeverEndingMe]

what the fuck?

why are you one of the lazy retards? get a job, a real job, and not some bullshit kind of job and you can get ahead. wow, you obama slaves are fucking ignorant

The fundamental mythos of American culture, is that no matter how poor or humble your birth, you can through grit, spunk and hard work become wealthy and prosperous.

On the face of it, and from the perspective of a class divided Europe, that seems incredibly noble and empowering. The idea that there is that much social mobility, that anyone can forge their own destiny is a powerful part of the American psyche. When it happens, it is an incredible thing. Something Americans can feel proud of.

However, there is a dark side to this mythos. Which is this ... if anyone can win through hard work and effort, anyone who doesn't win, therefore deserves to be poor.

At the core of all the anti-health care reforms is the single concept "why should I pay for the healthcare of those losers."


This was also captured brilliantly by John Steinbeck who famously said:

Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.

 

[zotique]

The U.S. still tolerates a health care system that is the most wildly expensive in the world yet delivers such lousy outcomes. The richest country on the planet ranks about fifty-seventh in the world in infant mortality and thirty-sixth in life expectancy, reports the World Health Organization. It gets even more embarrassing at the state level. If Mississippi were a country, more children would perish in infancy than in Botswana.
In spite of so-called Obamacare, more than 40 million Americans still lack any health insurance.
Why does this persist? Because the U.S. population has somehow been convinced it wants it that way. Obamacare has actually been reasonably successful, proving coverage to 20 million people who were previously uninsured. But more and more, facts just don’t matter.
Almost half of Americans dislike the program, a number that rises to more than 80 per cent for Republicans. Congress voted more than 60 times to defund, cancel or delay Obamacare, making this modest effort to insure the uninsured into a high profile political piñata.
Let’s assume for a moment that money does matter. The U.S. spends some $3 trillion per year on health care, more per capita than anywhere else.
Let’s also assume that humans around the world are somehow medically similar — implausible I know, but let’s press on. How much money would be left on the table if the U.S. delivered health care as efficiently as Finland, which has an infant mortality rate less than half that in America?
Finland spends about $3,500 per capita on health care, compared to about $9,500 in the U.S. — a difference of $6,000 for each of the 324 million Americans. Doing the math, America would have a cool $2 trillion in extra walking-around money every year while achieving vastly better health care outcomes if it just copied Finland.
So who gets that extra $2 trillion now? Perhaps the same people who spent $4.2 billion on health care lobbying between 1998 and 2010 — more than any other sector except finance, which shelled out a similar pile of money to hector elected officials. Since 64 per cent of U.S. health care is paid for by the taxpayer, such savings would mean various levels of government would have an additional $1.2 trillion to spend on improved programs, paying down debt or providing tax breaks.

 

[Real_American17]

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You're a moron, a Communist, and pure evil!

 

[Iceprincess12]

Retards need obamacare. They can't be trusted to make difficult decisions on their own. If our government won't stand for retards, who will?

 

[Raziel83]

I think it's funny how Neverending went on his rant and

a) Never actually provides any evidence of anything negative with Obamacare. He does keep repeating the word "welfare" as if that would automatically make it bad.

b) Obamacare isn't actually welfare. You still get your insurance from private sector and have to pay for it.

 

[Real_American17]

b) Obamacare isn't actually welfare. You still get your insurance from private sector and have to pay for it.

It is welfare.

People that don't want it are forced to buy it or pay a fine which lowers the cost for the parasites using it.

Also it makes companies give insurance to people that ALREADY have a condition... it's like buying insurance while your car is rolling down a hill or a fire is spreading in your house!

 

[NeverEndingMe]

I think it's funny how Neverending went on his rant and

a) Never actually provides any evidence of anything negative with Obamacare. He does keep repeating the word "welfare" as if that would automatically make it bad.

b) Obamacare isn't actually welfare. You still get your insurance from private sector and have to pay for it.

stop being a retard and pull your own head, our of your neighbors ass

obamacare is "less" expensive due to part of the premium being paid for by your fucking neighbor. how the fuck, do you retards not understand that?

are all you obama assholes this fucking stupid?

 

[Raziel83]

NeverEndingMe, if you want to debate with people you have to provide facts AND be able to persuade them that you are correct. So far you are doing neither very well.

You type like a thirteen year old. Poor grammar, plenty of insults and swears but it is as if you were just picking them from a list. Proper insults have some emotion and creativity put into them, you don't just randomly throw stuff and hope that it sticks.

 

[Real_American17]

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What a useless twat you are, complaining about his use of insults? Pathetic small minded progressive faggot!

 

[NeverEndingMe]

Retards need obamacare. They can't be trusted to make difficult decisions on their own. If our government won't stand for retards, who will?

for those that need it, no one has ever stated that they should be denied.

see, this is the problem with YOU and those like you. even though you are not labeled a retard by your Dr, well, you are a fucking retard. Stop smoking that obama ass juice, stop being a slave, and wake the fuck up.

why do you chose to be a retard?

welfare, is NOT a career choice.

 

[NeverEndingMe]

NeverEndingMe, if you want to debate with people you have to provide facts AND be able to persuade them that you are correct. So far you are doing neither very well.

You type like a thirteen year old. Poor grammar, plenty of insults and swears but it is as if you were just picking them from a list. Proper insults have some emotion and creativity put into them, you don't just randomly throw stuff and hope that it sticks.

please, if you can't see that obama is a failure ... that obama care is failing that hillary is a liar then you are too retarded to have a debate with.

its just that simple

 

[dan_c00000]

people need to pay for their own insurance and get off welfare

People are paying for Obamacare. In fact that's how it works. You go on the exchange and pay for a health insurance plan.

How are your shitty e-books doing that you couldn't give away for free when you were pretending to be a girl on the internet?

 

[zotique]

When people don't have a rational argument they resort to insults and slurs. Where else have I seen that recently?

 

[NeverEndingMe]

People are paying for Obamacare. In fact that's how it works. You go on the exchange and pay for a health insurance plan.

How are your shitty e-books doing that you couldn't give away for free when you were pretending to be a girl on the internet?

dan, you are a fucking idiot. those that have obamacare can only afford it with the supplement aka welfare

how did you get to be so fucking stupid? maybe you sucked off one too many dudes and he blew your brains out?

 

[NeverEndingMe]

When people don't have a rational argument they resort to insults and slurs. Where else have I seen that recently?

Jesus, you are a retard. have you always been this stupid?

 

[zotique]

1. When people don't have a rational argument they resort to insults and slurs. Where else have I seen that recently?

2. "Jesus, you are a retard. have you always been this stupid?"

3. See sentence number one.

 

[NeverEndingMe]

1. When people don't have a rational argument they resort to insults and slurs. Where else have I seen that recently?

2. "Jesus, you are a retard. have you always been this stupid?"

3. See sentence number one.

Glad that you realize you are a retard. Now, what are you willing to do about it? I would suggest you put down the obama ass juice and get a fucking job. Time for your welfare ass to pay up and pay your fair share.

 

[zotique]

According to the Washington Post despite healthcare spending levels that are significantly higher than any other country in the world, a baby born in the U.S. is less likely to see his first birthday than one born in Hungary, Poland or Slovakia. Or in Belarus. Or in Cuba, for that matter.

The U.S. rate of 6.1 infant deaths per 1,000 live births masks considerable state-level variation. If Alabama were a country, its rate of 8.7 infant deaths per 1,000 would place it slightly behind Lebanon in the world rankings. Mississippi, with its 9.6 deaths, would be somewhere between Botswana and Bahrain.

 

[zotique]

Double tap.