Obamacare Architect: “Stupidity of American Voter” Was “Critical” To Passing Obamacar

[Busybody]

Obamacare Architect: “Stupidity of American Voter” Was “Critical” To Passing Obamacare…


Wow.


We told you so at the TIME, didn't we?

 

[Busybody]

they LIED

http://weaselzippers.us/204987-obam...ican-voter-was-critical-to-passing-obamacare/

they hoped we would be stupid and not read it

they relied on the PRESS to call all opponents RACISTS and HATERS to pass it

EVERYTHING WE SAID WAS TRUE

EVERYTHING THEY SAID WAS A LIE

 

[Busybody]

The stupidity of the uniformed voter, the blatant bribery of senators and congress people, changing the rules of the senate and probably the blackmailing of Chief Justice Roberts.

Dennis Kucinich famous Air Force One plane ride with 0bama changes his mind as soon as he lands.Bart Stupak sudden change of heart and retirement right after changing vote.

The Louisiana Purchase: Landrieu $300 million increase for Medicaid,The Cornhusker Kickback Ben Nelson, Carl Levin gets exemption for non-profit insurers. Bernie Sanders $10 billion in new funding for community health centers

Reconciliation Rule change that the senate used on this bill which only needs 51 votes in the senate instead of 60 which is was suppose to because of the Scott Brown election.

When challenged and brought to the supreme court Judge Roberts changes his decision last minute citing 0bamacare not being an individual mandates (which the 0bama administration argues that was the entire time during the passage) to a ta tax which congress does have a right to impose. Many believe that the Judge was blackmailed probably due to the some illegalities of his child's adoption.

 

[Busybody]

It’s Lies All The Way Down:

 

[toubab]

Of course the fucking thing wouldn't have passed except for the stupidity of the American voter. What else is new?

 

[eyer]

Of course the fucking thing wouldn't have passed if not for the stupidity of the American voter. What else is new?

You seemed very proud to proclaim to the Board last week that you voted, wannabe...

...why you calling yourself stupid, now?

 

[toubab]

You seemed very proud to proclaim to the Board last week that you voted, wannabe...

...why you calling yourself stupid, now?

I didn't vote for any Democrats, idiot.

 

[Busybody]

Of course the fucking thing wouldn't have passed except for the stupidity of the American voter. What else is new?

actually

it was way more then that

it was LIES and THREATS and INTIMIDATION and RECONCILIATION and BRIBES

 

[toubab]

actually

it was way more then that

it was LIES and THREATS and INTIMIDATION and RECONCILIATION and BRIBES

None of which would have worked if the American voters had voted as if they had a brain.

 

[Busybody]

In a newly uncovered video, Obamacare architect Jonathan Gruber admits that a “lack of transparency” was key in getting the Affordable Care Act passed because “the stupidity of the American voter” would have otherwise killed the bill.





From 2009-2010 Gruber, a professor of economics at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, served as a technical consultant to the Obama Administration during which time he helped craft the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, more commonly known as Obamacare.

During a recent panel discussion, Gruber explained that the characterization of the individual mandate as a tax, which led to the Supreme Court upholding it as such, was not actually a tax at all.

“This bill was written in a tortured way to make sure CBO did not score the mandate as taxes,” stated Gruber. “If CBO scored the mandate as taxes, the bill dies. Okay, so it’s written to do that. In terms of risk rated subsidies, if you had a law which said that healthy people are going to pay in – you made explicit healthy people pay in and sick people get money, it would not have passed.”

“Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage,” he added. “And basically, call it the stupidity of the American voter or whatever, but basically that was really really critical for the thing to pass. Look, I wish Mark was right that we could make it all transparent, but I’d rather have this law than not.”

Although it’s widely acknowledged that Obamacare was forced through off the back of broken promises and dirty tricks, to have someone who helped craft the law brazenly admit the fact is still shocking.

The clip is also disturbingly ironic given Obama’s 2013 claim that his White House is “the most transparent administration in history .”

When the President was promoting the virtues of Obamacare in 2009, he also infamously uttered the line, “First, no matter what’ve you’ve heard, if you like your doctor — or health care plan — you can keep it.”

That promise was shattered earlier this year when Obama acknowledged during an interview with WebMD that Americans, “might end up having to switch doctors.”

 

[Busybody]

wait till all the fees and regulations etc

that were DEFERED till after the elections

KICK IN

 

[toubab]

In a newly uncovered video, Obamacare architect Jonathan Gruber admits that a “lack of transparency” was key in getting the Affordable Care Act passed because “the stupidity of the American voter” would have otherwise killed the bill.





From 2009-2010 Gruber, a professor of economics at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, served as a technical consultant to the Obama Administration during which time he helped craft the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, more commonly known as Obamacare.

During a recent panel discussion, Gruber explained that the characterization of the individual mandate as a tax, which led to the Supreme Court upholding it as such, was not actually a tax at all.

“This bill was written in a tortured way to make sure CBO did not score the mandate as taxes,” stated Gruber. “If CBO scored the mandate as taxes, the bill dies. Okay, so it’s written to do that. In terms of risk rated subsidies, if you had a law which said that healthy people are going to pay in – you made explicit healthy people pay in and sick people get money, it would not have passed.”

“Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage,” he added. “And basically, call it the stupidity of the American voter or whatever, but basically that was really really critical for the thing to pass. Look, I wish Mark was right that we could make it all transparent, but I’d rather have this law than not.”

Although it’s widely acknowledged that Obamacare was forced through off the back of broken promises and dirty tricks, to have someone who helped craft the law brazenly admit the fact is still shocking.

The clip is also disturbingly ironic given Obama’s 2013 claim that his White House is “the most transparent administration in history .”

When the President was promoting the virtues of Obamacare in 2009, he also infamously uttered the line, “First, no matter what’ve you’ve heard, if you like your doctor — or health care plan — you can keep it.”

That promise was shattered earlier this year when Obama acknowledged during an interview with WebMD that Americans, “might end up having to switch doctors.”

Wrong interpretation. It was the stupidity of the American voter that allowed passage of the bill.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Wrong interpretation. It was the stupidity of the American voter that allowed passage of the bill.

Indirectly, yes, because the voters were the ones who voted the bastards into office, but it was Obama's artful lying and the chicanery of Congress members who passed it. I don't blame myself. I voted for McCain in 2008 and against Obama in 2012 and for whatever GOP candidates were running for Congress in those years and in between.

 

[Busybody]

If this were an R

the PRESS would have his skin

now?

MEH!...yawn!

 

[eyer]

Wrong interpretation. It was the stupidity of the American voter that allowed passage of the bill.

You seemed very proud to proclaim to the Board last week that you voted, wannabe...

...why you calling yourself stupid, now?

.....

 

[Busybody]

It’s not the first time that Jonathan Gruber’s past remarks on ObamaCare have come back to bite him, but perhaps it’s the most honest assessment of the process that produced the bill he both helped create and advocated. Last July, as a federal appeals court mulled over the text and intent of the subsidy structure, a 2012 video emerged in which Gruber insisted that the limitation of tax credits was intended to force states into supporting ObamaCare — the exact opposite of what the Obama administration argued in Halbig. Gruber later called that a “speak-o,” to the amusement of many.

In a video from 2013 unearthed by the Daily Signal, Gruber at least avoids undermining the legal defense of ObamaCare. Instead, Gruber undermines the political defense of it by depicting Democrats as intentionally dishonest about the bill during its drafting to snooker the CBO, and laughs at the “stupidity of the American voter” while declaring that he’s all about the ends rather than the means:




The conservative group American Commitment posted Jonathan Gruber’s remarks, reportedly from an Oct. 17, 2013, event, on YouTube.

“Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage,” says the MIT economist who helped write Obamacare. “And basically, call it the stupidity of the American voter or whatever, but basically that was really, really critical for the thing to pass.”

Gruber goes a little farther than that. He tells the crowd that the bill was written to fake out the CBO — which is the Congress’ own analytical group. “This bill was written in a tortured way to make sure CBO did not score the mandate as taxes,” Gruber tells the audience with a smile. “If CBO scores the mandate as taxes, the bill dies.” The CBO did a lot more than just decide whether or not to score the mandate as a tax, though. Democrats insisted that CBO’s initial scoring showed that the bill was deficit-neutral in its first ten years, thanks to transparently self-serving dodges like trawling revenue before making outlays a few years later. How much else did Democrats lie to get that initially positive scoring? How much else are Democrats still hiding about the ACA and the HHS implementation of it?

Voters sent a message to Democrats on Tuesday that they were tired of their condescension and contempt. Gruber’s video makes it plain that voters did get that message from Democrats from “Sweet Pea” ads and Kochsteria distraction attempts. Voters in 2016 had better remember this lesson.

 

[toubab]

.....

I didn't vote for Obama either time, moron, or for any of the Democratic stooges who foisted Obamacare upon us, idiot, so I'm not calling myself stupid, you imbecile.

 

[eyer]

I didn't vote for Obama either time, moron, or for any of the Democratic stooges who foisted Obamacare upon us, idiot, so I'm not calling myself stupid, you imbecile.

Of course you're not "calling" your"self stupid"...

...that's what your "wife" is for, doofus.

 

[Ishmael]

It’s not the first time that Jonathan Gruber’s past remarks on ObamaCare have come back to bite him, but perhaps it’s the most honest assessment of the process that produced the bill he both helped create and advocated. Last July, as a federal appeals court mulled over the text and intent of the subsidy structure, a 2012 video emerged in which Gruber insisted that the limitation of tax credits was intended to force states into supporting ObamaCare — the exact opposite of what the Obama administration argued in Halbig. Gruber later called that a “speak-o,” to the amusement of many.

In a video from 2013 unearthed by the Daily Signal, Gruber at least avoids undermining the legal defense of ObamaCare. Instead, Gruber undermines the political defense of it by depicting Democrats as intentionally dishonest about the bill during its drafting to snooker the CBO, and laughs at the “stupidity of the American voter” while declaring that he’s all about the ends rather than the means:




The conservative group American Commitment posted Jonathan Gruber’s remarks, reportedly from an Oct. 17, 2013, event, on YouTube.

“Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage,” says the MIT economist who helped write Obamacare. “And basically, call it the stupidity of the American voter or whatever, but basically that was really, really critical for the thing to pass.”

Gruber goes a little farther than that. He tells the crowd that the bill was written to fake out the CBO — which is the Congress’ own analytical group. “This bill was written in a tortured way to make sure CBO did not score the mandate as taxes,” Gruber tells the audience with a smile. “If CBO scores the mandate as taxes, the bill dies.” The CBO did a lot more than just decide whether or not to score the mandate as a tax, though. Democrats insisted that CBO’s initial scoring showed that the bill was deficit-neutral in its first ten years, thanks to transparently self-serving dodges like trawling revenue before making outlays a few years later. How much else did Democrats lie to get that initially positive scoring? How much else are Democrats still hiding about the ACA and the HHS implementation of it?

Voters sent a message to Democrats on Tuesday that they were tired of their condescension and contempt. Gruber’s video makes it plain that voters did get that message from Democrats from “Sweet Pea” ads and Kochsteria distraction attempts. Voters in 2016 had better remember this lesson.

I can see snippets of that stunning little speech showing up in political ads for as long as "ShuckNJiveCare" is the law of the land.

Ishmael

 

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[Busybody]

UPenn took down the video of Gruber saying deception was crucial to Obamacare's passage http://ldi.upenn.edu/ahec2013/agenda

 

[Busybody]

http://iotwreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/204x300xwherefreestuff_answer_1_xlarge.jpeg.pagespeed.ic.v7zYRUJ7Em.jpg

 

[Ishmael]

UPenn took down the video of Gruber saying deception was crucial to Obamacare's passage http://ldi.upenn.edu/ahec2013/agenda

I'm sure it's been captured for posterity by someone, somewhere.

Ishmael

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

What's funny now is the stupidity of the voters in the repeal effort...

 

[Ishmael]

What's funny now is the stupidity of the voters in the repeal effort...

Rather amazing isn't it? They first chuckled over the stupidity of the American voter for allowing it to become the law, and now they're incensed by the stupidity of the American voter for wanting to get rid of the misbegotten law.

Ishmael