Obama legacy 2 : Shift from a traditional full time work force, to a "gig" economy

[hashtag4]

Obama legacy 2 : Shift from a traditional full time work force, to a "gig" economy

1.Except, as has been explained in great detail since the election, America is not a democracy.
I will leave it up to you to research what that means.

2.Obama created his own haters. His promises during elections are a complete fail.
Want to know why? Research Zero Hedge and find out the truth about the last 8 years of economic decline.

3.Reality can not be swept under the rug of history by Obama standing up and attempting to describe his own legacy, which is completely false. The US has not been in worse racial condition in 60 years.

Is it true?

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Interesting post by one of the infrequent political posters.
I had a look through the website that was suggested (Zero Hedge) , and I came across this provoking article.
I could have well posted this in my other thread. But since it focused on the other part of pairaclites's comment (race relations), I felt it would be more tidy to keep the two ideas separate, in two separate threads.

 

[hashtag4]

Top Ex-White House Economist Admits 94% Of All New Jobs Under Obama Were Part-Time
by Tyler Durden. Dec 25, 2016 10:34 AM
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-...ts-94-all-new-jobs-under-obama-were-part-time

1."We predicted (… ) that in light of the underlying changes resulting from the second great depression, America is shifting from a traditional work force, one where the majority of new employment is retained on a full-time basis,
to a "gig" economy, where workers are severely disenfranchised, and enjoy far less employment leverage, job stability and perks than their pre-crash peers.

2.Fast forward 6 years, when a report by Harvard and Princeton economists Lawrence Katz and Alan Krueger, confirms exactly what we warned. In their study, the duo show that from 2005 to 2015, the proportion of Americans workers engaged in what they refer to as “alternative work” soared during the Obama era, from 10.7% in 2005 to 15.8% in 2015.

Krueger, who until 2013 was also the top White House economist serving as chairman of the Council of Economic Advisers under Obama, was "surprised" by the finding.
"We find that 94% of net job growth in the past decade was in the alternative work category,” said Krueger. “And over 60% was due to the [the rise] of independent contractors, freelancers and contract company workers.” In other words, nearly all of the 10 million jobs created between 2005 and 2015 were not traditional nine-to-five employment.

3.While the finding is good news for some, such as graphic designers and lawyers who hate going to an office, for whom new technology and Obamacare has made it more appealing to become an independent contractor. But for those seeking a steady administrative assistant office job, the market is grim.
It also explains why despite an apparent recovery in the labor market, wage growth has been non-existant, due to the lack of career advancement and salary increase options for this vast cohort which was hired over the past decade."

 

[JohnnySavage]

It's not an Obama legacy; it's a trend that's been happening since the tax reforms of the early 90s - mostly because it's more tax friendly to be an independent contractor both for the worker and the employer, but also because attitudes have changed regarding giving your life to a corporate master in hopes of receiving a crust of bread and a modest pension right before you croak.

To the extent it's an Obama legacy - it's a good thing.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

We, those of us who are "Racists" knew who and what Barry Soerto was. We quoted him, we quoted his associates and we described in great detail his complete lack of experience in the real world.

One of his goals was to shrink the population back into the urban centers and rebuild the urban tax base.

Another of his goals was green energy and the destruction of those who were engaged in mining.

There were others, but as he (or Bill Ayers) wrote, who saw him as a blank canvass for us to project upon, thought and believed that he was going to be a racial uniter and healer, He never had any such intention. His intention was to divide and to set us against ourselves. He did that well, with skill, great aplomb and the aura of intellect. Il Duce!

But now, at the end, he has let the drapes fall open and we see the darkness of his mind...

 

[Adre]

It looks like the BroPatrol can't let go of Obama and Clinton, even though we have a new President. Maybe it's because he was so soundly beaten in the popular vote that they're still a little defensive about the whole thing. Chin up Bros, you got this. Let go of the past.

 

[hashtag4]

Thanks to all for posting.
I was worried that I will get few answers, since quite a few GBers have me on iggy. Or maybe you guys just cleared your iggy lists for Christmas.


N.B.
I used the provoking term "Obama legacy" on purpose, since I knew that it would capture the attention of both GB libs. and conservatives, which will increase my chances of getting responses to my thread. Technique borrowed from LJ.

Personally, I have formed no clear opinions on "Who's at fault for the US economic decline and so on".
And as a non-american, I'm only peripherally interested in the topic.
My interest in US politics lies in the fact that what happens in the US is reflected to various degrees internationally. Given that almost the entire world is still under US hegemony.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

We don't have a new President asshole.



We're stuck with your choice and the things that he is sticking to us on the way out...

 

[JohnnySavage]

Thanks to all for posting.
I was worried that I will get few answers, since quite a few GBers have me on iggy. Or maybe you guys just cleared your iggy lists for Christmas.


N.B.
I used the provoking term "Obama legacy" on purpose, since I knew that it would capture the attention of both GB libs. and conservatives, which will increase my chances of getting responses to my thread. Technique borrowed from LJ.

Personally, I have formed no clear opinions on "Who's at fault for the US economic decline and so on".
And as a non-american, I'm only peripherally interested in the topic.
My interest in US politics lies in the fact that what happens in the US is reflected to various degrees internationally. Given that almost the entire world is still under US hegemony.

What decline? The past 8 years have been years of unprecedented growth. The US economy has been the world's "safe haven." That's why the Fed has been able to loan money at zero, or even negative interest rates.

 

[hashtag4]

1.One of his goals was to shrink the population back into the urban centers and rebuild the urban tax base.

2.Another of his goals was green energy and the destruction of those who were engaged in mining.

1. That goal is clearly stated on the Agenda 21 and United Nations website.
Quite a nefarious goal.

2.That's also stated on those websites.
But why would that that would be a bad thing ?

 

[hashtag4]

What decline? The past 8 years have been years of unprecedented growth. The US economy has been the world's "safe haven." That's why the Fed has been able to loan money at zero, or even negative interest rates.

I obviously fall short in the areas of politics and economics, plus I tend to read anti-establishment massmedia, which might explain why I got this impression.

It would be good to witness a debate between you, water505, 4est and a few others, since you hold opposing views on the matters and (as I perceive it) you are skilled in the areas of economics and politics.

 

[Adre]

We don't have a new President asshole.



We're stuck with your choice and the things that he is sticking to us on the way out...

I can't figure out whether you're getting more uncivil or just drinking out of control now. Shape up Fatso, get a grip.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

1. That goal is clearly stated on the Agenda 21 and United Nations website.
Quite a nefarious goal.

2.That's also stated on those websites.
But why would that that would be a bad thing ?

2: Government cannot efficiently do anything, it is not what government does. Those who can do, do. Those whom can imagine that they can do, but cannot, go into government...

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I can't figure out whether you're getting more uncivil or just drinking out of control now. Shape up Fatso, get a grip.

*chuckle*

Look how the asshole calls people out...

He thinks not to lead by example, but to be who he is.

 

[water505]

We, those of us who are "Racists" knew who and what Barry Soerto was. We quoted him, we quoted his associates and we described in great detail his complete lack of experience in the real world.

One of his goals was to shrink the population back into the urban centers and rebuild the urban tax base.

Another of his goals was green energy and the destruction of those who were engaged in mining.

There were others, but as he (or Bill Ayers) wrote, who saw him as a blank canvass for us to project upon, thought and believed that he was going to be a racial uniter and healer, He never had any such intention. His intention was to divide and to set us against ourselves. He did that well, with skill, great aplomb and the aura of intellect. Il Duce!

But now, at the end, he has let the drapes fall open and we see the darkness of his mind...

A fake just like the Wizard of Oz.

http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/ubIpoPjBUds/hqdefault.jpg

 

[water505]

2: Government cannot efficiently do anything, it is not what government does. Those who can do, do. Those whom can imagine that they can do, but cannot, go into government...

I totally disagree.

They are very efficient at growing the bureaucracy, creating nothing, and sucking money out of the economy like a huge sponge.

 

[hashtag4]

Another of his goals was green energy and the destruction of those who were engaged in mining.

Yes, I understand that this might have been driven by corporate interests as opposed to the "Save the Planet" mantra, but why would you consider it to be a bad thing?
Fracking and CO emissions from coal and so on are among the biggest polluters.

 

[Disgustipated]

I totally disagree.

They are very efficient at growing the bureaucracy, creating nothing, and sucking money out of the economy like a huge sponge.

What is your alternate suggestion for government? I mean, other than being a whiney cunt.

 

[Sean]

I totally disagree.

They are very efficient at growing the bureaucracy, creating nothing, and sucking money out of the economy like a huge sponge.

Wrong again. Why do you lie so much, Miles?

https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-ove...ables/total-government-employment-since-1962/

 

[Disgustipated]

The new guy is so dumb he's been branded "miles".

That's a pity.