Nude Beach Bride

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Another series I wrote (eight chapters) but ran out of gas before the conclusion. It seems that 15 years ago, LW audiences were more forgiving (though I got more than a few trolls).

Not sure I can find this zeitgiest again, but should I consider a 15th anniversary return trip to the beach?

 

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I still seem to be getting demand for this, so am going to revisit the series and see what I have left to add.
Ideas for the reboot?
what is left to say besides how the honeymoon ended?

Fortunately for the non-incest fans, any kids would be too young to join in, so left at home with grandparents.
Are they still married? Happily?
Why return to the scene now?
Do they meet any of the characters from prior chapters? Accidentally or by invite for a reunion?
What sex games are left to try?
Which prior experiments do they recreate?
Do they enjoy the reboot as much as the honeymoon?
Do they live happily ever after? or at least til the kids are old enough for the "third honeymoon" trip, for the incest fans?
speaking of kids- did wife get preggers on the honeymoon? If so, do we know whose sperm? Does she return preggers from this trip?

suggestions?

 

[Carnevil9]

They had a huge falling out, hate each other bitterly, got divorced, and never want to see each other again.

But.... A rich uncle thought they were a cute couple, and left them ten million dollars in his will, as long as they were still legally married and living together.

So, it's back to the beach and try to go through with the marriage without killing each other. Adult children optional.

 

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They had a huge falling out, hate each other bitterly, got divorced, and never want to see each other again.

But.... A rich uncle thought they were a cute couple, and left them ten million dollars in his will, as long as they were still legally married and living together.

So, it's back to the beach and try to go through with the marriage without killing each other. Adult children optional.

I will thunk on that angle

the other question I left oyr ought to be obvious- assuming they are still together, are they still swimnging? Did they swing til they had kids, stop, and now miss it? Or are they stuck in the mud?

 

[LupusDei]

I have yet read only the first three chapters (so it's now dawn on NDD), but I have a working theory about Gabrielle already, regarding pregnancies. Things is, by all likelihood her period is over a week late by this point already. That could explain some of her behavior, or rather Seth's confusion about her behavior.

 

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I have yet read only the first three chapters (so it's now dawn on NDD), but I have a working theory about Gabrielle already, regarding pregnancies. Things is, by all likelihood her period is over a week late by this point already. That could explain some of her behavior, or rather Seth's confusion about her behavior.

I still have to reciew the series, so you have a few days.

 

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Today's questions:
So do I have Carla, the maid of honour who had helped Seth set up the orihinal cothing optional resort honeymoon surprise for Gaby, go along for the second honeymoon?
Or show up as a surprise once they arrive?
Have Seth and Gaby been lovers with Carla since?
are they in a throuple with Carla?
or is Carla married?
if so, is it Dwight, Seth's ex roomate who briefly appeared in ch 1 as a device for Carla to have introduced Gaby to seth on a double date?
if so is her hubby along on the trip?
If Carla is married have they swapped?
Is there a history of gay sex, eiither girl-girl or Seth and Carly's hubby or ex?
Did Seth and Carly hve a secret affair?
Did Gaby have a secret affair with Carla's hubby or ex (or Dwight if he never married Carla?)
if Dwight is not on the plane, do I have him show up ar t the resort, either on purpose or a coincudence? If on purpose, whose idea?

or is Carla just lome watching the kids for Seth & Gaby

remember that in ch 4, the NND chapter , Gaby warned "I don't know why you want me to turn into a slut so much, because if I do, there might be no turning back, you know."

As I have started the story, just, quick responses appreciated- if I need to go back and revise, easier to do before I have nuch to edit.


And I will probably have more questions tomorrow or Wednesday.

 

[LupusDei]

Okay, some thoughts, not carrying useful or not.

Obviously, Carla is the most important person in this marriage. Both Seth and Gabby themselves still seemed having doubts about what's essentially an arranged marriage managed by her, even after the wedding, all the way until the NND and the redefinition of expectations following from it. With could be read that unambiguous inclusion of absent Carla set things right. That's pretty heavy.

Carla did choose Seth for Gabby and I'm sure put more than little work in to make her prophesy self-fulfilling even if a bit late. I wonder was Seth feeling forced to finally propose in what was possibly a repair of a low point, not unsurprisingly if by direct Carla's urging eiter. And did Carla knew about his kinks somehow beforehand?

I doubt their ages were declared (if so I missed or instantly forgot that), but I choose to read it as if Seth wasn't a youngster anymore, not extremely, but perhaps up to a decade Gabby's senior, and she's rather in the second half of twenties firmly herself (and so is Carla, by extension). He's obviously experienced and thinks he knows himself.

Even his kinks muddling the picture aside, he had perhaps not really been head over heels thoroughly star-eyed in love, but rather rationally seen Gabby as good partner to settle for, despite her perceived flaws he hopes, and more than succeeds to overcome right on their bit extreme honeymoon. He might have finally fallen for her right there, right in the middle of all that group sex. But until then, he might have rather felt internal and/or social pressure to marry, clock ticking and all.

Gabby, in contrast, might have truly fallen for him, but not without retaining her own untold reservations, why, is an open question. Gabby's been no virgin eiter, she's probably have done more before she let's be known. All in all we learn surprisingly little about her, her social surroundings (besides Carla), motivations and/or external pressures to take the marriage, or be wary going in. There's probably been nontrivial amounts of complexity behind her observed uptight behavior, their somewhat strained premarital sex including. Again, I have to wonder did Seth's reputation for being into sharing took lead for him covertly.

Gabby's bisexuality now having firmly established, and her even initially having misgivings about being with other girls before Carla, who's "been waiting so long" for Gabby to get over herself -- so basically she's been concerned about cheating on her slutty friend; it's obviously a relationship no less important than the thing she has with Seth, that the later got to the altar notwithstanding --, there's no reasonable doubt that relationship will have the sexual angle explored sooner than later now, and rather fully approved/shared by Seth. I partly expected her to show up right there.

However, as regular partner Carla might be in their marriage later, I rather doubt they are actually living in a full and stable throuple. If anything, Gabby might be too concerned her daddy might not approve if such been out in the open, and Carla herself may find it too limiting. Also, it could have been proven more complicated than the fantasy. A couple has one relationship, a throuple has seven relationships to keep track of (a-b, a-c, b-c, ab-c, ac-b, bc-a, a-b-c) between them alone -- and any of those can fail separately.

Add the fourth person in the mix, and the complexity explodes, for a total of 27 possible unique relationships between them.

So, if desired, all of those -- secret affair between Gabby and Carla, secret affair between Seth and Carla, all three having an openly shared thing, Carla having a man of her own, up to being married to him, while Gabby secretly cheating with him despite both couples also openly swapping -- can possibly be true all at the same time.

That would be something like: S-G, SG-C, C-D, SG-CD being considered legal arrangements, but S-C, G-C, G-D, perhaps even SG-D or CD-G being engaged in secret, perhaps because any of GC-S, SC-G, GC-D, SC-D, GD-S, GD-C had failed if ever explored. (S-D on itself doesn't necessarily have to be independently mutually sexual to work either, by the way, even if such is explored for the benefit of the others.)

So if you need trouble in paradise:

Carla & Gabby couple falling out with Seth seem unlikely, but still possible, if those two managed to anger him somehow, often enough. Still that's one fail that has most chance to be tolerated, by the guy simply stepping aside while girls being girls. Or it may even only work in the bedroom, but otherwise Seth feeling... redundant? otiose? in their presence when they go all into each other emotionally/socially. Dwight being hostile or insecure towards lesbians is perhaps too thick.

Seth & Carla, the two sluts being too much for Gabby to bear for too long without jealousy is quite believe, or she may just demand constant attention to herself from them, creating the desire to explore that coupling away from her. And then that can go unexpectedly adventurous sometimes, distancing further with those mutual secrets. The same against Dwight is even more natural and expected, potentially.

Gabby & Dwight independent coupling, being the most peripheral, could be -- perhaps erroneously, but rather expectedly -- ruled illegal by one or both of the others. Further, both Seth and Carla can symmetrically see the other as being wrong doing so.

 

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Thanks

Questioning today is thougher I think.

I had forgotten about the Friday morning knock on the door cliffhanger ending to ch.8. I figured I could finesse the final few days of the honeymoo in a recollection as to how they cozied up togethe and barely left their bed , either focusing on each other, or maybe including Cassie the maid or Horace the waiter.

But now the question is- who knocked on the door? And can I still do the finesse, or do I need to sort out a longer flashback?

In addition to Cassie and Horace, possibilities include:
*management evicting them for the public sex
*Yanic the former parasailing instructor, who fucked Gaby and enticed Set into some gay play?
*Jazzy and Espy, the frespirited bisexual American blondes
*one or more of the schoolteachers- Mary and twins Peggy and Peny who are letting loose on their holiday together
*Lars and Peter from the hike, who later joined the Thursday orgy as bit players
*Carla, "surprise!"
*Kevin the best man and philandering husband, sometime lover of Carla... would also be a dark horse
*Davis the bartender, a walkon part so far, who would gave no reason to knock on the door unless... [Lit rule of 'every adult character needs to fuck unless there is another reason they are there' applies?]

I have at least two more days of questions.

 

[LupusDei]

Speaking of flashbacks, the first chapter was almost unreadable, exactly for how the wedding night was handled, in very confusing parallel stream to already highly paralleled activities (between blondes on the beach, Gabby in the shower, Seth with himself and bits of exposition) and claims of impossible architecture wasn't helping (unless Gabby was showering in a glass box on a pedestal -- what was implied to not be the case -- all Seth's stated assumptions could not be true at the same time).

It all led to total butchery of what could have been very enjoyable and important scene of Gabby emerging from said shower deciding to remain nude despite possible audience. It was just established how big deal her nudity is/coud/would be, and then, instead of playing with that for effect, literally a couple of paragraphs later it goes, "since we both were already naked..." there's some rather inconsequential light hanky panky on the bed. Sure, Seth might be just that jaded and absorbed by the atmosphere that is no novelty for him, but even then that was inattentive towards his bride.

Well, that's just me ranting about spoiled chance to fetishize nudity. But it was bit like porn videos skipping over the moment panties go down, at least for me.

 

[LupusDei]

I had forgotten about the Friday morning knock on the door cliffhanger ending to ch.8.

In addition to Cassie and Horace, possibilities include:
*management evicting them for the public sex
*Yanic the former parasailing instructor, who fucked Gaby and enticed Set into some gay play?
*Jazzy and Espy, the frespirited bisexual American blondes
*one or more of the schoolteachers- Mary and twins Peggy and Peny who are letting loose on their holiday together
*Lars and Peter from the hike, who later joined the Thursday orgy as bit players
*Carla, "surprise!"
*Kevin the best man and philandering husband, sometime lover of Carla... would also be a dark horse
*Davis the bartender, a walkon part so far, who would gave no reason to knock on the door unless... [Lit rule of 'every adult character needs to fuck unless there is another reason they are there' applies?]

"Sounds like a wonderful treat to me too, but why wait until tomorrow for another cream pie?"

It wasn't morning yet. They were heard and likely seen having what should've been the last play for a long and exhausting day.

The context implied the suggestion as creampie in Gabby provided by some other man, eaten out by Seth. A big next step. It was a brazen intrusion. I read it as a male voice, although it was undeclared.

It could still be retrofitted to whatever gal offering her cunt for Seth to make one, for whomever, probably, a play down from that expectation. Already almost repetitive, somewhat, if not directly then in feel. What may not be that bad if it's glanced over.

Well, I only perfunctory scanned chapters 5-7 for bits of new information with was far between and well hidden in the pile of rutting bodies, but I didn't pay too much attention to those extra bodies. So, I won't attempt a probability distribution of with gal might urgently need such.

That Gabby invited them in without looking implies she knew the voice, that probably rule out the bartender, I think.

It could be Horace, he's perhaps rude enough, and I think wasn't directly involved with them in the previous scene (although I'm somewhat unsure, but not going to look). I, and perhaps quite some other readers might want to see him dropped out with a punch then, but whatever...

It's probably not Yanic, for such would be at odds with what he stated and did previously.

Lars and/or Peter? Well... maybe, for the randomness of it.

I would rather expect them to be Kevin and Carla indeed. While perhaps a bit too fast it's almost logical. And I would hardly believe they set that back a year or whatever until the next trip out (although it could be explained away with just... life to happen), so...

Or Carla with whomever in tow, but that's way less likely unless... Lars and/or Peter? Doubtful. A bit too, I don't know, but also bit... intrusive?, or almost too slutty even for her.

Anyway, there's enough dream logic going for the unexplainable impossibly perfect timing for the intrusion of the home characters to not be as outrageous as it could be otherwise. They might have arrived at any time and been right there, just keeping their distance, even observed the orgy on the beach, perhaps even decided S&G are further out than they really are by the looks of it.

Gabby herself might be less surprised than it may seem. She might have even summoned Carla, directly or indirectly, during that sort of fall out they had.

Kevin's wife, we know nothing about her so far, it's implied she's oblivious of Kevin's play on aside Seth may even cover for him, but is it so? Them being revealed as swingers too might not feel quite right though (exactly for the "too" part). Even so, them being on the resort, perhaps her even oblivious of the newlyweds or actively colluding in giving them space can't be ruled out. Giving them a visit, overhearing a bit and Kevin rendering a joke with is a joke only because his wife's presence?

Finally, management? That's hilarious and imply... basically, a rape. That would be quite a turn of events, but for a fast get out of the setting for whatever time jump...

 

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Interesting suggestions.

still hoping others will join in.

In ch 6, Gaby asks Seth if they can bring Cassie home to be their maid,.

simple question today - did that work out?
I think the answer must be yes, or what is foreshadowing for?

 

[Carnevil9]

I will thunk on that angle

the other question I left oyr ought to be obvious- assuming they are still together, are they still swimnging? Did they swing til they had kids, stop, and now miss it? Or are they stuck in the mud?

When the kids started arriving, they had to put swinging on the back burner, and eventually forgot all about it.

Now, the last urchin has finally left the nest, and they are starting to think about getting back into the swinging life. But they feel like newbies all over again! Everyone else is younger, the lingo has evolved, they don't know where to start or with whom.

You can jettison all the other characters outside the main couple and start fresh, or you could bring in some or all of the old circle of friends.

 

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When the kids started arriving, they had to put swinging on the back burner, and eventually forgot all about it.

Now, the last urchin has finally left the nest, and they are starting to think about getting back into the swinging life. But they feel like newbies all over again! Everyone else is younger, the lingo has evolved, they don't know where to start or with whom.

You can jettison all the other characters outside the main couple and start fresh, or you could bring in some or all of the old circle of friends.

how could they forget about it?
I am doing this in "real time" between the first honeymoon and the second, so kids not of age.
The ideas are still percolating though (says the knight sipping his first coffee of the day)

you anticipated today's question - which secondary characters ought reappear to join in the second honeymoon fun? same list as the question about the end of ch8, just who instead of being in the flashback, joins in the present day action? I think you are right that we need some fresh blood, so some of the prior supporting cast must nor appear if I am doing a reasonable length reunion.

 

[LupusDei]

In ch 6, Gaby asks Seth if they can bring Cassie home to be their maid,.

simple question today - did that work out?
I think the answer must be yes,

As a corollary of it being management that entered with the suggestion of another creampie, referring to one in naked and nearly crying Cassie, then demanding to know who left it there?

When they fail to say with certainly (I would) the manager claim they have witness reports of her sex with S&G the previous night. And the whole "anything goes" public sex with staff never been official policy anyway, apparently brought on by overenthusiastic staff gone rogue, and thus the situation be best resolved if they leave immediately.

Since Cassie never have chance to dress, she's still nude in the shuttle to the airport. Actually, she only gets concerned about her nudity when it's time to exit the plane (wherever S&G home base is). But since they have gone all the way west (or crossed the date line going east) it's still NND on the far end as well. And that's how Cassie never put any clothes on ever again...

...or what is foreshadowing for?

Apparently, Gabby's dad had a maid...

 

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As a corollary of it being management that entered with the suggestion of another creampie, referring to one in naked and nearly crying Cassie, then demanding to know who left it there?

When they fail to say with certainly (I would) the manager claim they have witness reports of her sex with S&G the previous night. And the whole "anything goes" public sex with staff never been official policy anyway, apparently brought on by overenthusiastic staff gone rogue, and thus the situation be best resolved if they leave immediately.

Since Cassie never have chance to dress, she's still nude in the shuttle to the airport. Actually, she only gets concerned about her nudity when it's time to exit the plane (wherever S&G home base is). But since they have gone all the way west (or crossed the date line going east) it's still NND on the far end as well. And that's how Cassie never put any clothes on ever again...



Apparently, Gabby's dad had a maid...

Thanks. I am 1000 words in, and tentatively have Cassie having joined Seth and Gaby as a life partner, but one who has visited home often enough to have a couple of kids with Horace the Horse. you idea is fun though. I might play with it. Or bank it for a future story about another maid.

The Gaby's dad having a maid I instantly went "YES" to, but so far have not figured out how it works in- suggestions?

I think I will be writing this one for a while. If I apply my usual limt of about 15000 words to a chapter, this installment might be more than one chapters as they are still on the plane to the resort.

Still stuck on what to do about Carla/Dwight/Kevin. I like the idea of Carla being a fuck buddy but is she on the plane? does she arrive later as a surprise? Or did she stay home to babysit? Dwight seems superfluous. Kevin I already dislike. Or do I need a "villain"? according to comments on the existing chapters, some readers already see Seth and Gaby as abti-heroes (at best) though I love them personally. they had the honeymoon I wish had.

(sorry - 4 parahraphs, I know. Slap my wrist. But don't spank me- if there is spanking to be done, I am the spamker not the spankee)

 

[LupusDei]

Thanks. I am 1000 words in, and tentatively have Cassie having joined Seth and Gaby as a life partner, but one who has visited home often enough to have a couple of kids with Horace the Horse. you idea is fun though. I might play with it. Or bank it for a future story about another maid.

Dang, I forgot to mention the tentacle monster, a very female one, and now may have to write the whole thing myself and still without any tentacles...

The Gaby's dad having a maid I instantly went "YES" to, but so far have not figured out how it works in- suggestions?

All since her eighteen birthday (obviously) Gabby's have wondered what the true deal between her dad, maid and mom is. But instead of daddy issues she got sappic desires, with a bunch of associated hangups (sinners burning in hell and all that fun) for just thinking through the stuff. There somewhere might be reasons for both why Carla failed to ambush her (wouldn't go as Gabby's no true lesbian anyhow, but that would imply, for the usual black&white logic) and why Seth get only missionary until way in the honeymoon -- especially if Gabby isn't too sure is mom happy with the arrangement she imagines (as Seth had not been exactly secretive about his inclinations, as demonstrated by that flashback of the conversation after Gabby had walked in on Carla fucking whomever in a closet or wherever it was).

When Seth stripped Cassie, the walls finally crumbled... Now freshly liberated Gabby's more determined to find out what's really going on with her parent's maid than ever (even while, maybe especially because, having Cassie for herself to play the part -- with may not be without otherwise unexplainable complications either). The kicker? It's all probably ever been only in poor Gabby's imagination, at least up until she intervenes.

Where it goes? Do I know? Probably not far, if you stick with promise to keep this out of incest, for now, so maybe it's just some groundwork for the grand finale three generation orgy in the third book, but perhaps Seth (and/or Carla? Cassie?) gets to play with Father-in-law's maid with or without the old guy's permission somehow, for Gabby's benefit, of course (but her misguided fantasies mustn't be necessary fully exposed yet). Have they somehow borrowed her for the trip?

 

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a beach IS a good place for a tentacle monster...
...I was thinking Gaby's Mom died when Gaby was ypooung, but it took Gaby until she was 18 to realize that the maid wasn't really sleeping in the "maid's room", but was sharing Daddy's bed- which is why she sets Cassie up that way. Not sure how to fit it in though.
...still trying to decide if Carla is on the plane, so stalled . Hope I don't end up in a tail spin

You come up with the most intriguing agles, a challenge to make fit, so, alas, not all shall, but I enjoy trying.

 

[LupusDei]

Well, perhaps even Cassie's presence don't deter from or maybe the mentioned temporary absences allows Gabby to "interview" girls for her fantasy maid's position.

 

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Well, perhaps even Cassie's presence don't deter from or maybe the mentioned temporary absences allows Gabby to "interview" girls for her fantasy maid's position.

I am focused on what happens at the resort... this might fit a later chapter, or a free standing story. Don't want to clog this chapter with too much back story.

 

[LupusDei]

...still trying to decide if Carla is on the plane, so stalled . Hope I don't end up in a tail spin

I am focused on what happens at the resort... this might fit a later chapter, or a free standing story. Don't want to clog this chapter with too much back story.

So, the question then is, is Carla still or again just a backstory, if not history. If she's anything more, even just an active distraction still, she's probably right there for this very reason. The very anticipated inclusion of her likely fell of scene anyway, unless, it is somehow deterred all the way till this very next trip. Actually, Cassie thing may help to explain it was.

a beach IS a good place for a tentacle monster...

You come up with the most intriguing agles, a challenge to make fit, so, alas, not all shall, but I enjoy trying.

Is it still a tentacle monster if you can enter any of her multiple labias like a door, be transported by vaginal contractions to an inner garden where living double ended dildoes steal fertilized human zygotes to be grown to apparent maturity in external multi-chambered hive mind enabled wombs?

In all honesty, regarding Cassie, I just tried to obfuscate my "no" in enough nonsense, but apparently failed. With is fine, and I got kinda like yet another superfluous plot summary out of it myself.

Since I'm not target audience for this whole thing anyway, all I can provide is most likely disruption, do not take it as a checklist.

 

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So, the question then is, is Carla still or again just a backstory, if not history. If she's anything more, even just an active distraction still, she's probably right there for this very reason. The very anticipated inclusion of her likely fell of scene anyway, unless, it is somehow deterred all the way till this very next trip. Actually, Cassie thing may help to explain it was.



Is it still a tentacle monster if you can enter any of her multiple labias like a door, be transported by vaginal contractions to an inner garden where living double ended dildoes steal fertilized human zygotes to be grown to apparent maturity in external multi-chambered hive mind enabled wombs?

In all honesty, regarding Cassie, I just tried to obfuscate my "no" in enough nonsense, but apparently failed. With is fine, and I got kinda like yet another superfluous plot summary out of it myself.

Since I'm not target audience for this whole thing anyway, all I can provide is most likely disruption, do not take it as a checklist.

Yes that would I think still be a tentacle monster if it had tentacles. All the better for group gropes

 

[LupusDei]

Yes that would I think still be a tentacle monster if it had tentacles. All the better for group gropes

I think at full size those enormous living hive houses rather delegate the tentacled fun to residing security guards (even more so as on their home planet there's very little outside, as those things basically cover the entire surface stacked cunt-to-cunt in perpetual sexual orgy (housing some three dozen billion humans that had never worn any clothing among various other creatures)), but while growing up in free green environments on newly colonized planets they may indeed join in directly.

 

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I think at full size those enormous living hive houses rather delegate the tentacled fun to residing security guards (even more so as on their home planet there's very little outside, as those things basically cover the entire surface stacked cunt-to-cunt in perpetual sexual orgy (housing some three dozen billion humans that had never worn any clothing among various other creatures)), but while growing up in free green environments on newly colonized planets they may indeed join in directly.

just a bit off the main topic... but fun

 

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I "finessed" the Carla situation to get writing again, but might have created too much backstory. So might need to rewrite to remove or move some later. Even worked in Dad having a maid. but no tentacle monster yet.