Not an erotic question but,,,,,,,

SeaCat

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Okay this is not an erotic question but I thought it was a good one to post here because of the great mix of people and beliefs we have.

The other day I was asked about my Talismans that I wear around my neck. When I explained them to the person asking the question he looked at me and shook his head before asking why I didn't wear a cross. (He was a "priest" (Sorry I don't know the proper name.) for the local Greek Catholic Church.) I explained that my belief was that you don't buy and wear something like that, it has to be given to you. He didn't seem to understand that. (Yes I did at one time wear a cross, it was removed from my body during an operation and subsequently vanished.) I feel quite strongly about this, anyone can buy something and wear it but it means something when it is given to you.

Does anyone else feel this way?

Cat
 
SeaCat said:
Okay this is not an erotic question but I thought it was a good one to post here because of the great mix of people and beliefs we have.

The other day I was asked about my Talismans that I wear around my neck. When I explained them to the person asking the question he looked at me and shook his head before asking why I didn't wear a cross. (He was a "priest" (Sorry I don't know the proper name.) for the local Greek Catholic Church.) I explained that my belief was that you don't buy and wear something like that, it has to be given to you. He didn't seem to understand that. (Yes I did at one time wear a cross, it was removed from my body during an operation and subsequently vanished.) I feel quite strongly about this, anyone can buy something and wear it but it means something when it is given to you.

Does anyone else feel this way?

Cat

yes. :)
 
A talisman is personal. They can be anything - bought, given, found, created, imagined - it depends on the meaning to the individual.

I find mine - usually rocks from far away places I have visited. They remind me to live fully.
 
Something given freely is something given from the heart. It always means more than something bought.

:cool:
 
SeaCat said:
Okay this is not an erotic question but I thought it was a good one to post here because of the great mix of people and beliefs we have.

The other day I was asked about my Talismans that I wear around my neck. When I explained them to the person asking the question he looked at me and shook his head before asking why I didn't wear a cross. (He was a "priest" (Sorry I don't know the proper name.) for the local Greek Catholic Church.) I explained that my belief was that you don't buy and wear something like that, it has to be given to you. He didn't seem to understand that. (Yes I did at one time wear a cross, it was removed from my body during an operation and subsequently vanished.) I feel quite strongly about this, anyone can buy something and wear it but it means something when it is given to you.

Does anyone else feel this way?

Cat

Cat, you've hit the dynamics of the gift spot on.

Most things only *mean* something because they are given to you.

The material object has no meaning in and of itself, it is the quality of "gift" (call it "Mana" or "Hau" if you want to sound very learned and wise) that has meaning.
 
I understand that idea completely, I am not entirely sure why anyone wouldn't. Now, I could understand how one might disagree with it, but it seems perfectly understandable and reasonable.

(Priest is a perfectly acceptable; unless he was a Deacon or a Bishop, then it's less appropriate.)
 
SeaCat said:
Okay this is not an erotic question but I thought it was a good one to post here because of the great mix of people and beliefs we have.

The other day I was asked about my Talismans that I wear around my neck. When I explained them to the person asking the question he looked at me and shook his head before asking why I didn't wear a cross. (He was a "priest" (Sorry I don't know the proper name.) for the local Greek Catholic Church.) I explained that my belief was that you don't buy and wear something like that, it has to be given to you. He didn't seem to understand that. (Yes I did at one time wear a cross, it was removed from my body during an operation and subsequently vanished.) I feel quite strongly about this, anyone can buy something and wear it but it means something when it is given to you.

Does anyone else feel this way?

Cat

Yes, I do feel that way also.
 
dark-glasses said:
I wuz just thinking (ow)...if he wuz a real priest, he would have then given you his (cross).

Do be so sure, or to quick to judge the flaws of men.
 
EXACTLY what I was thinking! But there again, thier cross is given to them when they take the oath so I doubt they would give that up.
C
 
I don't buy jewelery for myself (real jewelery) i picked up on an odd belief somewhere that it was bad luck to purchase for yourself and what you are meant to have will come your way without buying it. So yes I understand.
Nymphy
 
I think we have two kinds of powers: those we feel ourselves, and those others feel in us. Only wearing gifts from others ignores the first.

I'm thinking about tattoos. Think of what you'd end up having if you only wore tattoos other people picked out for you. Not a pretty sight, is it. :D

You can give gifts to yourself, too.
 
dr_mabeuse said:
I think we have two kinds of powers: those we feel ourselves, and those others feel in us. Only wearing gifts from others ignores the first.

I'm thinking about tattoos. Think of what you'd end up having if you only wore tattoos other people picked out for you. Not a pretty sight, is it. :D

You can give gifts to yourself, too.
Thanks, Mab, this is the way I feel. I have a combination of talismanic jewelry from others and gifts I've picked for myself. It's also nice to be able to pull a ring off my finger and pass it to someone else- and I can't always do that with the gift jewellry.
 
SeaCat said:
Okay this is not an erotic question but I thought it was a good one to post here because of the great mix of people and beliefs we have.

The other day I was asked about my Talismans that I wear around my neck. When I explained them to the person asking the question he looked at me and shook his head before asking why I didn't wear a cross. (He was a "priest" (Sorry I don't know the proper name.) for the local Greek Catholic Church.) I explained that my belief was that you don't buy and wear something like that, it has to be given to you. He didn't seem to understand that. (Yes I did at one time wear a cross, it was removed from my body during an operation and subsequently vanished.) I feel quite strongly about this, anyone can buy something and wear it but it means something when it is given to you.

Does anyone else feel this way?

Cat


I don't wear crosses... its just not part of my 'faith'

However I am that way with amulets, pendents, talismans, etc.
I have several crystals that I keep like that as well that were given to me as part of something that either broke or were torn from me and I have kept what was left of them.

I don't usually buy myself something like that... but I have many that were given. In that same vein some that were given were never worn by me because of who gave them and the fact that I wondered about their intentions.

Lizzy
 
Thanks all.

Another belief of mine is that any Talisman I give, I will have at least carried if not worn for at least a short time. An example of this was a Rosary I picked up for a friend of mine when I was in Italy. (No I am not a Catholic but she was/is.) I wore that Rosary around my neck until I saw her next then gave it to her.

Cat
 
SeaCat said:
Thanks all.

Another belief of mine is that any Talisman I give, I will have at least carried if not worn for at least a short time. An example of this was a Rosary I picked up for a friend of mine when I was in Italy. (No I am not a Catholic but she was/is.) I wore that Rosary around my neck until I saw her next then gave it to her.

Cat
Yep. That's kind of important. Puts a little more of your spirit into the gift.
 
Here's a story that dovetails into this discussion:

Many motorcycle clubs have a tradition with a small bell. They believe that placing a small bell somewhere on your bike will keep the road demons away. It will keep you from crashing, etc. The catch is that you CAN'T put your own bell on your bike. You must put a bell that someone else gives to you as a gift. If you place your own bell on your bike, you're inviting trouble from the road demons.

So if you ever see a motorcycle with a small bell on it, that's what it's for.
 
SeaCat said:
Thanks all.

Another belief of mine is that any Talisman I give, I will have at least carried if not worn for at least a short time. An example of this was a Rosary I picked up for a friend of mine when I was in Italy. (No I am not a Catholic but she was/is.) I wore that Rosary around my neck until I saw her next then gave it to her.

Cat

I understand that. It makes it more personal.....as Talismans should be. I have one that my grandmother gave me. My grandfather had made it for her and she had worn it. Now, it is mine. I always wear it(well, except for when they had me take it off at the hospital).
 
I have a silver chain that my mother gave me for my 20th birthday. I consider myself very close to my mother, even though I may not always show it...and I hardly ever take that chain off. For me, it's a reminder of the one woman who will never lie to me, never betray me, never get bored of me, and will always love me, no matter what.
 
Here's a thought

I was given an Islamic pendant by my father six years ago and have yet to remove it. I always considered myself more spiritual than religious. Anyone else.
 
I don't have any talismans, but I certainly agree with the importance of things given...

I had a close friend throughout college, a girl who never quite became a lover, but we were always friends. She came out to visit me in SoCal after graduation, and we went to TJ one day. While there we bought woven friendship bracelets, but tied them around each others ankles instead of on wrists.

I literally wore that friendship "anklet" for years....never took it off. Eventually it broke and fell off.
 
gifts of the heart

Interesting when you give something that you have worn you do give little of yourself to that person. Your intentions are shown at that moment. Love and respect. :cathappy:
 
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