Nonconsent idea - lonely virgin teen rapes cheerleader?
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I read nonconsent from time to time, but thats too violent for my taste.
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Wow
If you think you can write it go for it. I commend anybody who is trudging through new teritory around this muthafucker. But be prepared to get slammed from all angles, specially if you go that far out. But have faith, even my Erotic Horror stories have regular readers who are waiting for me to put out more works where girls are drown in their own shit and strangled with their own intestines before they get eaten. There is a crowd for your writing if you have talent. Go for it.
If you think you can write it go for it. I commend anybody who is trudging through new teritory around this muthafucker. But be prepared to get slammed from all angles, specially if you go that far out. But have faith, even my Erotic Horror stories have regular readers who are waiting for me to put out more works where girls are drown in their own shit and strangled with their own intestines before they get eaten. There is a crowd for your writing if you have talent. Go for it.
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If I was writing this one, (which I won't--it's a little too out there for me), I'd have him shoot the boyfriend first. That way, her reaction to what he's done gets worked into the sex.
I would also say that the guy needs more motivation than just being lonely. Something like less that 10% of all rape cases are the result of sexual frustration, and I would doubt that very many of them are the work of virgins. The vast majority of them are the result of mysogynism. Something in his past that has caused serious resentment towards women. I'd recommend developing the guy's back story and make it a bit of a character study piece. Tell it from his perspective.
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He might be on to something
A charachter study and getting into his head will definitly turn a lot of heads. You have to go get out your waist high boots though cus the bullshit about you being sick will pour in, trust someone who knows.
A charachter study and getting into his head will definitly turn a lot of heads. You have to go get out your waist high boots though cus the bullshit about you being sick will pour in, trust someone who knows.
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fogbank:
"If I was writing this one, (which I won't--it's a little too out there for me), I'd have him shoot the boyfriend first. That way, her reaction to what he's done gets worked into the sex."
I'd put the shooting at the end but... that doesn't answer my question. I'm still wondering why he would shoot her boyfriend.
"I would also say that the guy needs more motivation than just being lonely. Something like less that 10% of all rape cases are the result of sexual frustration, and I would doubt that very many of them are the work of virgins. The vast majority of them are the result of mysogynism. Something in his past that has caused serious resentment towards women. I'd recommend developing the guy's back story and make it a bit of a character study piece. Tell it from his perspective."
I don't know how much misogynistic attitudes actually cause rapes. I'm more of the opinion that biology is to blame; if, on average, women, children, or the elderly were as strong, able, and healthy as the average adult male then you'd see a much more equitable demographic distribution in victims.
That said, a large majority of rape is intra-racial. I'm not certain why.
A backstory would be nice but not in the story itself. I can think of a number of reasons and justifications but all of them border of melodrama and all take away from the plight of one cheerleader and her boyfriends.
"If I was writing this one, (which I won't--it's a little too out there for me), I'd have him shoot the boyfriend first. That way, her reaction to what he's done gets worked into the sex."
I'd put the shooting at the end but... that doesn't answer my question. I'm still wondering why he would shoot her boyfriend.
"I would also say that the guy needs more motivation than just being lonely. Something like less that 10% of all rape cases are the result of sexual frustration, and I would doubt that very many of them are the work of virgins. The vast majority of them are the result of mysogynism. Something in his past that has caused serious resentment towards women. I'd recommend developing the guy's back story and make it a bit of a character study piece. Tell it from his perspective."
I don't know how much misogynistic attitudes actually cause rapes. I'm more of the opinion that biology is to blame; if, on average, women, children, or the elderly were as strong, able, and healthy as the average adult male then you'd see a much more equitable demographic distribution in victims.
That said, a large majority of rape is intra-racial. I'm not certain why.
A backstory would be nice but not in the story itself. I can think of a number of reasons and justifications but all of them border of melodrama and all take away from the plight of one cheerleader and her boyfriends.
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But to blame biology is to say that rape is inevitable and natural. Biology plays a role in who the victim is, but biology isn't a motive; it's a reason for why certain groups are more likely to commit rape than others. But consider the geek in the story above--if biology is the major factor in determining rape, then surely the weakling geek would be less strong and able, and thus less likely to commit rape than an athletic jock boyfriend. I mean, why not blame every case of domestic abuse on biology, too?
Hatred, unlike biology, is a motive--sometimes, there is a hatred toward an individual, but more often, it is hatred toward a larger group--women as a whole. Sure, if men and women commited equal numbers of rape then it would be wrong to say that misogyny is the primary motivation for rape. I would have said that misogyny and misandry were equal factors. But that's not the case.
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fogbank:
"..to blame biology is to say that rape is inevitable and natural."
Rape is natural. Whether or not anything is inevitable is a different discussion.
"…biology isn't a motive; it's a reason for why certain groups are more likely to commit rape than others…"
It's a reason why certain groups are more likely to be the victim of rape.
" …the weakling geek would be less strong and able, and thus less likely to commit rape than an athletic jock boyfriend…"
Weakling geeks? Athletic jock boyfriends? Please show me the post in which either of these appear. The situation is this: man rapes woman. The question is this: why?
Making it weak man rapes woman or strong man rapes woman adds little to the discussion. Either way, I've never heard of any data indicating that 'geeks' are more or less likely to rape than 'jocks.' Unless you can provide something of that nature, whatever point you might be making is insubstantial.
" why not blame"
Blame? I've yet to 'blame' anything or anyone for any action. You seem to be the only interested in doing so.
" if men and women commited equal numbers of rape then it would be wrong to say that misogyny is the primary motivation for rape."
I agree, if that were the case then it would be wrong to say so. However, simply because that's not the case does not make it right to say so.
Great, we've finished with your post. Now, I'd like to point out that there's a difference between, "Why does man rape?" and "Why does man rape woman?" To me, it seems as though you want to apply your answer to the second question to the first question. I, on the other hand, haven't touched the first question but you seem to think I have.
"..to blame biology is to say that rape is inevitable and natural."
Rape is natural. Whether or not anything is inevitable is a different discussion.
"…biology isn't a motive; it's a reason for why certain groups are more likely to commit rape than others…"
It's a reason why certain groups are more likely to be the victim of rape.
" …the weakling geek would be less strong and able, and thus less likely to commit rape than an athletic jock boyfriend…"
Weakling geeks? Athletic jock boyfriends? Please show me the post in which either of these appear. The situation is this: man rapes woman. The question is this: why?
Making it weak man rapes woman or strong man rapes woman adds little to the discussion. Either way, I've never heard of any data indicating that 'geeks' are more or less likely to rape than 'jocks.' Unless you can provide something of that nature, whatever point you might be making is insubstantial.
" why not blame"
Blame? I've yet to 'blame' anything or anyone for any action. You seem to be the only interested in doing so.
" if men and women commited equal numbers of rape then it would be wrong to say that misogyny is the primary motivation for rape."
I agree, if that were the case then it would be wrong to say so. However, simply because that's not the case does not make it right to say so.
Great, we've finished with your post. Now, I'd like to point out that there's a difference between, "Why does man rape?" and "Why does man rape woman?" To me, it seems as though you want to apply your answer to the second question to the first question. I, on the other hand, haven't touched the first question but you seem to think I have.
It sounds to me from your argument that you would say that that people commit rape because their biology enables them to do so. Again, that addresses why people can commit rape, but not why they do. Almost every man has the ability to rape (and most women do too, given certain victims), but obviously the vast majority chose not to. If it's merely an issue of biological advantage, as you suggest, why don't more people commit rape?
You say that you have yet to blame anything, only shortly after saying "I'm more of the opinion that biology is to blame." The only thing one can blame for rape is the rapists themselves. Beyond that, I'm merely attempting to discuss motives: "Why do men rape?" Hatred. "Why do men rape women?" Hatred of women, either in specific or general terms. A simplification, yes; no act can be explained with such a plain motive. But hatred is there almost every time.
You say that you have yet to blame anything, only shortly after saying "I'm more of the opinion that biology is to blame." The only thing one can blame for rape is the rapists themselves. Beyond that, I'm merely attempting to discuss motives: "Why do men rape?" Hatred. "Why do men rape women?" Hatred of women, either in specific or general terms. A simplification, yes; no act can be explained with such a plain motive. But hatred is there almost every time.
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I don't get it, why do men always have the most perverted ideas and the least comprehension? 
The geek and the jock bit came from the description posted by xxx xxx, think about this way, in high school who was always the lonely virgin? In mine it was always the geek, the jock comes from cheerleaders boyfriend, who always dated the cheerleaders? In my school it was the jocks, not to say cheerleaders didn't sleep with non jocks, just dated jocks.
Simplest answer as to why he shoots the boyfriend, boyfriend tried to stop him.
Longer answer, boyfriend abused the virgin who came up with raping the cheerleader girlfriend and shoots the boyfriend to make him watch.
Now damn you perverted men, I have to go take a shower now, if I'm lucky in two hours I'll feel clean again.
The geek and the jock bit came from the description posted by xxx xxx, think about this way, in high school who was always the lonely virgin? In mine it was always the geek, the jock comes from cheerleaders boyfriend, who always dated the cheerleaders? In my school it was the jocks, not to say cheerleaders didn't sleep with non jocks, just dated jocks.
Simplest answer as to why he shoots the boyfriend, boyfriend tried to stop him.
Longer answer, boyfriend abused the virgin who came up with raping the cheerleader girlfriend and shoots the boyfriend to make him watch.
Now damn you perverted men, I have to go take a shower now, if I'm lucky in two hours I'll feel clean again.
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Never: Your ideas involving rape are extremely disturbing. And I'm wondering where you learned them...because if you have ever actually looked into anything like that then you would know that all of what you have been saying are falsehoods.
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Never said:
Natural? You've got to be fucking kidding me. Rape is a crime. There's nothing natural about it. It's about the worst kind of assault a person can endure, for it leaves psychological scars which will probably never fully heal.
There is no set profile of a likely rape victim. They can be obese or slim, young or old, white or black, male or female, tall or short.
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xxx xxx said:
"beats and rapes rude cheerleader".
Poetry. Hot idea too.
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Interestingly enough, in Thornhill and Palmer's Natural History Of Rape , it is posited that the omega males of the primate group, skulking frustrated on the sidelines, are the rapists. This is confirmed by observations of chimps, gibbons, bonobos, orang-o-tangs and the like.fogbank said:
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"…biology isn't a motive; it's a reason for why certain groups are more likely to commit rape than others…"
It's a reason why certain groups are more likely to be the victim of rape.
[" if men and women commited equal numbers of rape then it would be wrong to say that misogyny is the primary motivation for rape."
I agree, if that were the case then it would be wrong to say so. However, simply because that's not the case does not make it right to say so.
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I think biology is responsible for why men rape. I think misogyny is an effect (of biology), not a cause (of rape). Testosterone. One of the most underrated (by women) words in the dictionary.
It's a reason why certain groups are more likely to be the victim of rape.
[" if men and women commited equal numbers of rape then it would be wrong to say that misogyny is the primary motivation for rape."
I agree, if that were the case then it would be wrong to say so. However, simply because that's not the case does not make it right to say so.
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I think biology is responsible for why men rape. I think misogyny is an effect (of biology), not a cause (of rape). Testosterone. One of the most underrated (by women) words in the dictionary.
