Non-Silly Ass Thread 1 - The Universe

[Dixon Carter Lee]

Did you read thay they're mapping the Universe? NASA is working on mapping over a million galaxies (discovering the olargest structures in the Universe, collections of Galaxies spinning together called Super Clusters). Very soon a new earthbound telescope will be build which has the ability to filter out the intereference from the atmosphere, and will be 100 times more powerful than the Hubble. We can already look back in time to 12 billion years ago -- with this new telescope I wonder, I just wonder, if we will be able to glimpse back to the moments directly after the Big Bang itself.

Anyone still wanna' cling to Creationism?

 

[Chuckus]

DCL---LOL ROFLMFAO not about the content but the title to this thread......

 

[Chuckus]

Did you read thay they're mapping the Universe? NASA is working on mapping over a million galaxies (discovering the olargest structures in the Universe, collections of Galaxies spinning together called Super Clusters). Very soon a new earthbound telescope will be build which has the ability to filter out the intereference from the atmosphere, and will be 100 times more powerful than the Hubble. We can already look back in time to 12 billion years ago -- with this new telescope I wonder, I just wonder, if we will be able to glimpse back to the moments directly after the Big Bang itself.

Anyone still wanna' cling to Creationism?

How about creative evolution?

 

[Bobtoad777]

Anyone still wanna' cling to Creationism?

Yup, sorry to disappoint ya. Or maybe I didn't disppoint you, I don't know. Does it really matter whether I disappointed you or not, probably not.

 

[Angelique]

Thanks, DCL! Now my post on that OTHER thread looks out of place! lol

 

[Wil_E_Harden]

SEE 12 billion years in the past?

Actually I kinda like this thread. There may not be much we can find in the way of intelligent life in the Universe, much less down the block, but some pops up here occasionally.

Of course it is not precisly true that we see 12 billion years into the past. At least this much I got straight, but those quantum physics guys, they fuck wit' yore haid. They lie.

There is no "time dilation" and we cannot move instantaneously across the Universe by thinking about it, and I still don't think tachyons are only getting started at a bit beyond the speed of light. So there, take THAT Gary Zukav!

Instead, we see light that has been traveling like a Pachinko ball until it arrives at our eyes 12 billion years after it reflected from or was emitted by the place where it began.

Talk about random chance! Gazillions of other photons from the same event keep right on going and we will never, ever know they existed, Some hit the ground right next to where I was squatting 'cause I got me a sore case of the trots, and those photons were soaked up in that runny mess and that 12-billion-year trip just plain wasted right then and there.

Actually the onliest ones we ever see don't come direct to our eyes anyhow. They end up affecting film or other storage means in the telescope and we later get a representation of what was in their brief burst of energy.

And people want to talk about Creationism? Maybe the Deists got it right, a vast, random chaotic action was set in place by a Prime Mover but gadzooks, ever since the entire story is the march of wonderful accident. If anyone genuinely wants to know about the modern challenges and triumphs of evolution as a limited science, not some be-all answer for crackpot social theorists, start and finish with Steven Jay Gould. The guy's brilliant and a lot better-mannered than we who have been jabbing away at others here. (He seriously needs a good editor, though. So does Ray Kurzweil.)

Hey, we started with photons from 12 billion years ago and ended up taking about "The Age of Spiritual Machines." Is there a thread in that somehow?

 

[Countess DeWinter]

clinging

 

[KillerMuffin]

*slinks off to read up on astronomy and phsyics...*

Why couldn't some sort of supreme diety, be it Odin, Jehovah, the Goddess, Satan, or Uncle Fred (he thinks he's Jesus) create the universe? It stands to reason that it is as possible as the whole hoopla happening as an accident. Yeah yeah, a hundred monkeys typing on a hundred typewriters for a hundred years could write a shakespearean play. The odds of that are well, astronomical.

Why are we always trying to figure out the why when the how still escapes us. We think we know the how, but we really don't. We believe the universe began in the Big Bang, but how do we really know, simply by the expansion and physical evidence of expansion. Maybe a giant turtle had gas.

The most recent thing I've read on physics was Stephen Hawking's Brief History of Time, quite some time ago, so I'm relatively ignorant of physhics and astrophysics. However, it seems to me that logically whatever works on a quantum scale would also work on an atomic scale, whatever works on an atomic scale, would work on a molecular scale, and so on and so forth until elephants are teleporting themselves quantumly to Sparky's apartment. If a single quark could move itself a distance 10 times greater than itself in an instant, why could a person do it? Is it moving so fast we couldn't see it or doing "teleportation?"

 

[Cheyenne]

Anyone still wanna' cling to Creationism?

Gladly!