Non-fatal case of curiosity.

[Jasmine30]

Can someone please answer these questions for me. It's totally not important in the big scheme of things but it's driving me nuts. I submitted a poem here a while back. It was rejected. No big deal as I had expected it because of the content. However, it still shows on my submission page as being rejected and someone keeps reading/viewing it. The counter attached to it keeps recording views. Uhhhmmm, WHY? If it was rejected, who would have access to it? And why keep viewing it? Why not just copy and paste it into your own computer? Anyone out there? Anyone? Will someone step up to the plate and save this poor woman from her own danged nosiness? I'm dying here.

 

[champagne1982]

Can someone please answer these questions for me. It's totally not important in the big scheme of things but it's driving me nuts. I submitted a poem here a while back. It was rejected. No big deal as I had expected it because of the content. However, it still shows on my submission page as being rejected and someone keeps reading/viewing it. The counter attached to it keeps recording views. Uhhhmmm, WHY? If it was rejected, who would have access to it? And why keep viewing it? Why not just copy and paste it into your own computer? Anyone out there? Anyone? Will someone step up to the plate and save this poor woman from her own danged nosiness? I'm dying here.

If you still have it on your list, simply go to your log in page off the story index screen, open the submissions file and enter the poem editor by clicking on the word pending or "rejected". If you would like to edit the content to make it acceptable here then you can do so and resubmit or if you'd like it removed from the submissions queue, delete the content and make a note in the Notes field asking that the title be deleted from your submissions control page.

The views go up every time you click on the file and every time a Literotica poetry editor opens the file to see if you've made the required edits.

I have a curiousity question, too. If you knew that the submission was going to be rejected for content, why did you submit it in the first place?

 

[WickedEve]

Can someone please answer these questions for me. It's totally not important in the big scheme of things but it's driving me nuts. I submitted a poem here a while back. It was rejected. No big deal as I had expected it because of the content. However, it still shows on my submission page as being rejected and someone keeps reading/viewing it. The counter attached to it keeps recording views. Uhhhmmm, WHY? If it was rejected, who would have access to it? And why keep viewing it? Why not just copy and paste it into your own computer? Anyone out there? Anyone? Will someone step up to the plate and save this poor woman from her own danged nosiness? I'm dying here.

I have poems that are still in "preview" and not submitted yet. They still get views. Not sure if the views are coming from the owners or the person in charge of posting the poems online.
You should be able to edit or delete your poem, if you want to.
By the way, what kind of content was rejected? I understand if you don't want to answer. I'm curious, too.

 

[WickedEve]

I have a curiousity question, too. If you knew that the submission was going to be rejected for content, why did you submit it in the first place?

Ah, I see you asked a rejected content question too. Glad I'm not the only curious one.

 

[champagne1982]

Ah, I see you asked a rejected content question too. Glad I'm not the only curious one.

It made me into a curiousity kitten simply because it seems a bit pointless to proceed with an effort, when it's already known that it will have an unfavourable outcome; unless, in some perverse way, the author needed another human to read and be outraged by the objectionable content.

 

[Jasmine30]

In response to why I submitted anyway, I guess the answer is this: on a site that has pretty much every fetish known to man with the exception of a few unmentionable ones, I wanted to see if they would accept a controversial poem coming from the viewpoint of a child who was abused. In essence it was a poem from the abuser telling the child its ok. Not condoning it, quite the opposite, but I found it telling that a site that allows incest won't allow poetry that shows how sick child abusers are. I won't change it just so Lit can post it. I will post it elsewhere. Thanks for the replies!

 

[champagne1982]

In response to why I submitted anyway, I guess the answer is this: on a site that has pretty much every fetish known to man with the exception of a few unmentionable ones, I wanted to see if they would accept a controversial poem coming from the viewpoint of a child who was abused. In essence it was a poem from the abuser telling the child its ok. Not condoning it, quite the opposite, but I found it telling that a site that allows incest won't allow poetry that shows how sick child abusers are. I won't change it just so Lit can post it. I will post it elsewhere. Thanks for the replies!

So, as I said, you needed another human to be outraged. Very telling indeed.

 

[Jasmine30]

While I did say I expected my submission to be rejected, that is quite different from something "already known". Sometimes boundaries are defined in the testing of them.

It is 'curious' that you think a poem expressing the ugliness of child molestation was born of a 'need to outrage another human'.

Also 'curious' is that in light of some of the content readily available on Literotica, you would find this matter "perverse".

And that, to me, is "very telling indeed".

 

[WickedEve]

a controversial poem coming from the viewpoint of a child who was abused. In essence it was a poem from the abuser telling the child its ok. Not condoning it, quite the opposite, but I found it telling that a site that allows incest won't allow poetry that shows how sick child abusers are.

Hi, Jasmine. I think a poem like the one you wrote would find a better home on some other site. Literotica has a rule about stories/poems/images depicting someone under the age of 18. Your poem sounds like it needs a non-adult/non-porn site. Seriously.


No sexual activity involving bestiality (you can write stories about supernatural beasts like ghosts, unicorns, werewolves, etc.) or underage persons will be considered. For the purposes of this site, the minimum legal age is 18. This site does not publish stories, articles, essays, or other material supporting, encouraging, or defending child abuse and/or exploitation.

 

[champagne1982]

While I did say I expected my submission to be rejected, that is quite different from something "already known". Sometimes boundaries are defined in the testing of them.

It is 'curious' that you think a poem expressing the ugliness of child molestation was born of a 'need to outrage another human'.

Also 'curious' is that in light of some of the content readily available on Literotica, you would find this matter "perverse".

And that, to me, is "very telling indeed".

I didn't write the guidelines here. As WickedEve reminds, this is an erotic adult website. If you have a serious poem about child sexual abuse that isn't meant to arouse hidden perversions in some readers, then you really shouldn't want it published here.

I think it's outrageous that you would decide to submit content about genuine torture. I won't defend my views about these things. I also won't be bullied by you into apologizing for my tone. I feel sorry that there is a factual instance of sexual torture in your life, but for all I know, you could be some predator disguising yourself as an abuse victim and getting your jollies by writing it down.

It's all in the VENUE choice and you chose the inappropriate one to attempt to "test boundaries". I imagine that any publication of material such as what you say you've submitted would result in heavy fines to the site administrators and very realistically could cause charges to be laid against the membership.

As a mature person, it's up to you to find the best way to show your work. Maybe, there's a legitimate adult survivors' group you could join and share your writing with. If you've included graphic and explicit detail of the sex, then yes, that's unneccessary. There are better ways to express your experience in better places than the archives of Literotica, amongst stories of incest, mind control and nonconsent.

It's a fine line, and Literotica's managers keep the definition of acceptance narrow so that the legal requirements governing pornographic content are satisfied and not challenged. We all choose what we want to write and have others read and if our material is published at Literotica, there's a realistic expectation that it could cause orgasm in some people, no matter how innocuous the content is perceived by others.

 

[Jasmine30]

All this for asking a question?

I wouldn't dream of asking or in your words 'bullying' you for an apology. None is needed nor been asked for. You are condemning me for something you know nothing about, for something you haven't even read, and yet I'm the outrageous one for expressing myself. And here I am on a site proclaiming Free Speech. HA HA HA. Free speech only for what they approve of is not free speech.

I'm very familiar with Literotica's guidelines as I've written here for some time. I don't need them quoted back to me. Probably made someone mad at me for that too. Oh well. I know that the poem wouldn't garner fines or investigations. That's just plain silly.

But I guess I'll take the fall on this one. What and whom I choose to write about is my business and my business alone. I also won't apologize for what I write. I simply had a question, which I stil don't have answers for.

For the record the poem did not contain sex, or situations of torture. Simply a small poem showing how an abuser can pursuade little ones. It wasn't written as a victim but as a victim's advocate. And where I choose to post is again my business. I didn't ask for your advice, judment or assumptions concerning that and yet I'm subject to them anyway. That's what I get for asking for help from a forum board.

It's also not a lot of effort to post a poem on Literotica, it takes 30 seconds of my time to submit a poem. The effort comes from writing it, and contrary to what you may believe, most of what I write is not written for Literotica.

"Arguing on the Internet is like the special olympics, even if you win you're still a retard."

I probably offended you with that, too, but who cares?

Thanks for the replies!

 

[Safe_Bet]

[...]"Arguing on the Internet is like the special olympics, even if you win you're still a retard."

I probably offended you with that, too, but who cares?

Thanks for the replies!

Yes, you have. That comment was insulting and completely unnecessary.

For a person who allegedly espouses support for "abused children" to use a derogatory reference, regarding mentally challenged children and adults, to insult another person is even more unacceptable.

I am embarassed for you.
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P.S. Child abuse IS one of the most vile types of torture.

 

[MickNasty]

...And here I am on a site proclaiming Free Speech. HA HA HA. Free speech only for what they approve of is not free speech...

Freedom of the press is limited to those who own one.
- A. J. Liebling

You're free to *speak* your mind all you wish.

 

[WickedEve]

I'm very familiar with Literotica's guidelines as I've written here for some time. I don't need them quoted back to me. Probably made someone mad at me for that too. Oh well.
I have no way of knowing that. I was only giving you the guidelines to be helpful. Personally, I'm not mad.

But I guess I'll take the fall on this one. What and whom I choose to write about is my business and my business alone. I also won't apologize for what I write. I simply had a question, which I stil don't have answers for.
I don't think anyone wants you to apologize. You did get two replies to your original question.

And where I choose to post is again my business. Yeah, right. I don't think anyone is saying it isn't. I didn't ask for your advice, judment or assumptions concerning that and yet I'm subject to them anyway. That's what I get for asking for help from a forum board. We did give you help. You could have simply said you didn't want to discuss why the poem was rejected or you could have emailed literotica or PMed a poetry moderator, like me or Angeline and kept all this private. Right?

"Arguing on the Internet is like the special olympics, even if you win you're still a retard."

I probably offended you with that, too, but who cares? As I mom of a child with autism who has had physical therapy, well, I'm not offended. Your comments are too odd and irrational to be offensive.

 

[Jasmine30]

Keep it private

In response to Wicked Eve, I did email Literotica three times and did not receive a response. I had no idea I could pm a moderator and ask in private, otherwise I would have. This is my first time in these forums and as such I was unaware of that feature. And yes, I did get replies, I just didn't get answers to my specific questions.

Thanks for the replies.

 

[champagne1982]

If you still have it on your list, simply go to your log in page off the story index screen, open the submissions file and enter the poem editor by clicking on the word pending or "rejected". If you would like to edit the content to make it acceptable here then you can do so and resubmit or if you'd like it removed from the submissions queue, delete the content and make a note in the Notes field asking that the title be deleted from your submissions control page.

The views go up every time you click on the file and every time a Literotica poetry editor opens the file to see if you've made the required edits.

I have a curiousity question, too. If you knew that the submission was going to be rejected for content, why did you submit it in the first place?

Cited in order to illustrate that your questions were in fact answered. I did not insult you or your poem. I simply wanted to know WTF you're doing submitting a poem you already knew was going to be rejected. You answered that with far more venom than was warranted, IMO.

You are tactless and aggressive and I am sorry I've had this exchange. For such a prolific Literotica author as you proclaim to be, I would have expected a bit more knowledge about the rules governing publication and a bit more sensitivity towards the people that give you free access to a site on which you can show your writing.

I really hope you find a new outlet for all of that pent up aggression. This passive expression of it, will only give you ulcers.

 

[WickedEve]

Here is site that may interest you. The lighthouse sanctuary has a forum. One of the boards is Awash with Words -- it's a place for poetry. You do need to join, though. I didn't, so I haven't been able to read anything on the fourm. It may be worth checking out.

 

[bluerains]

Here is site that may interest you. The lighthouse sanctuary has a forum. One of the boards is Awash with Words -- it's a place for poetry. You do need to join, though. I didn't, so I haven't been able to read anything on the fourm. It may be worth checking out.

not sure about this area ...but,,,dang evie...who's feet...

 

[WickedEve]

not sure about this area ...but,,,dang evie...who's feet...

Mine!

 

[Tzara]

Mine!

Eve Has Her Foot in Her Mouth

It looks comfortable there, oddly,
as if she were beginning to eat
someone's leg. (Dead, one hopes,

and cooked.) Her dark eyes track
the unflinchingliness of camera,
which records her like a book

or like a song or like a rock
or like a poet. Or like all of them,
like, well, those squirmy ones Above.

 

[WickedEve]

Eve Has Her Foot in Her Mouth

It looks comfortable there, oddly,
as if she were beginning to eat
someone's leg. (Dead, one hopes,

and cooked.) Her dark eyes track
the unflinchingliness of camera,
which records her like a book

or like a song or like a rock
or like a poet. Or like all of them,
like, well, those squirmy ones Above.

dead, cooked,
and with parsley,
so as not to appear barbaric

 

[UnderYourSpell]

IMHO internet sites for abuse victims are not for everyone well certainly not for me, you just end up taking onboard everyone elses anger to fuel your own. A bit like mass hysteria in a large gathering

 

[shy slave]

Colour me confused.

In one post the OP says they have written for Lit for 'some time,' in a later post they say this is the first time in these forums.

The rules don't change from forum to forum.

How can someone be aware of a rule, and then inexplicably be unaware of the same rule?

I know sometimes it is difficult to use the same skill in a different arena, but this seems a bit out of kilter somehow.

As for the comment about the Special Olympics, I won't take myself to the same level as the OP, but it doesn't mean I didn't consider it.

 

[Jasmine30]

Isn't this done yet?

Well, here I go again. I have written here for some time, however, this is my first time in the forums. I did not research how to ask someone a question privately. I do not spend my time here pm'ing people or posting. What started out as a simple post to ask some curiosity questions has turned into a nightmare.

I won't be back to these forums again as I've found them to be a most unwelcome place to spend my time.

Thanks for your replies.

 

[champagne1982]

Well, here I go again. I have written here for some time, however, this is my first time in the forums. I did not research how to ask someone a question privately. I do not spend my time here pm'ing people or posting. What started out as a simple post to ask some curiosity questions has turned into a nightmare.

I won't be back to these forums again as I've found them to be a most unwelcome place to spend my time.

Thanks for your replies.

You're welcome .