Non consent plot bunnies.

[lovecraft68]

Someone said that your first scene in 'circle' was really hard for her to read. Would the woman have ended up looking like those pictures?

I sent you the first scene, you said it fell well within your criteria.

Try again.

And there is no hypocrisy. Read my reply to Amicus. I like it as rough as it can be. Consensually

And I'm not the one claiming I don't support what is freely available on this site.

I'm not the one who plays funny little games like "don't use rape in a title" because we don't condone that.

as for hypocrisy? Again try again. BDSM is my fantasy? Just mine? Yours as well as I recall.

will any of your partners look like these girls? Nope. Because BDSM is a far cry from rape and you know it. Because if someone accused you of it you would be all up in arms.

But suits your purpose to throw it at me.

So if I'm a hypocrite guess you are too.

Like a duck in a barrel

 

[lovecraft68]

Now see I don;t know what the big deal is here.

This thread will be gone soon as I knew it would be.

Denial is not just a river in Egypt as the old saying goes.

It will be gone because one of the sites toadies reported it therefore action will be taken.

In my time here I've reported a few rape stories and several underage stories that were ridiculously blatant. Many others have as well.

The usual story from people posting that they have is the story remains. The excuse is the report button does not work, but when pm's are involved as well, then what's not working?

I have succeeded in having one story removed here. Because I started a thread about it. Others chimed in as well.

The story had been up for a year featured a 15 year old girl and every public comment stated that, and that it should be removed.

During the course of that thread a few people said they had reported it to no avail. It was gone the second day of the thread because they were called out publicly on it.

So that's what this is.

 

[PennLady]

I know this won't work, because I've done it before and never gotten a direct (or indirect, for that matter) answer, but ...

Okay, LC. You don't like rape stories for any number of reasons, most apparently because you know people who have been victimized by it*, and your wife works with victims, so you have seen the damage first hand. This is no doubt awful and I applaud your wife's work (and what you do to help). You feel, I gather, that those who write non-con stories have no concept of the damage they might be doing, that they glorify something terrible. And not least, that many of the stories violate the stated policy of Literotica.

No problem. I think most here agree that rape is a terrible crime of power and a violation of person, no matter the gender of the perp/victim. If a story falls through the Lit cracks, you can report it via PM; you have before.

However -- what makes your incest stories any better than non-con? Incest is an awful thing with probably just as many repercussions, physical and mental, as rape. What if I knew someone who'd been a victim of incest? What if I thought your stories were glorifying some awful thing? Is it all okay because yours is a "fantasy" where everyone is over 18 and consenting, and because you attempt to make it "realistic" and romantic? Why is that any worse than a non-con story where the 18yo+ woman (or man) eventually consents (which is what Lit's policy is apparently supposed to be)? That's a fantasy, too, right? So why is your fantasy okay and theirs not?

But I've asked before and gotten no answer, and I assume that will happen again.

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* You stated in the past -- and no, I couldn't find a post to quote b/c the search was too general -- that you knew someone who was raped, and that you beat up the rapist and the served jail time. Recently you stated this wasn't true -- the part about a woman being raped -- that you knew someone who had been sexually abused by her father. Which is it?

 

[Stella_Omega]

I sent you the first scene, you said it fell well within your criteria.

Try again.

And there is no hypocrisy. Read my reply to Amicus. I like it as rough as it can be. Consensually

And I'm not the one claiming I don't support what is freely available on this site.

I'm not the one who plays funny little games like "don't use rape in a title" because we don't condone that.

as for hypocrisy? Again try again. BDSM is my fantasy? Just mine? Yours as well as I recall.

will any of your partners look like these girls? Nope. Because BDSM is a far cry from rape and you know it. Because if someone accused you of it you would be all up in arms.

But suits your purpose to throw it at me.

So if I'm a hypocrite guess you are too.

Like a duck in a barrel

Yeah, the girl I played with last week is black and blue from her knees to her belly button, and so are her tits. If I had a photo you would swear she was raped.
If you play hard at all you've seen the same-- some people bruise real easy (and some people like to soak in hot water to bring the bruising up darker).

Meanwhile, I'm not the person who is screaming about how everyone here is condoning rape stories. You're doing that, like a little fuckwaffle.

 

[TxRad]

The fuckwaffle has hit the table. Game over.

 

[Kurokami]

The fuckwaffle has hit the table. Game over.

As potentially gross as that sentence is (imagine it ) I am so glad that word made a comeback.

Beyond that, wow does LC ever have a bee in his bonnet about this. Since he's apparently unwilling to engage in a real dialogue about it I find I'm similarly unwilling to post my own views, aside from mentioning that representation doesn't equal recommendation, something he'd realize if he was willing to calm down from frothing rage for even a second. Otherwise every horror movie would be glorifying murder.

Other than that, you guys have been saying it better than I could.

 

[4glory6]

Is this the same guy who posts BDSM incest here? What a hypocritical doofus.

 

[LettersFromTatyana]

The fuckwaffle has hit the table. Game over.

As potentially gross as that sentence is (imagine it ) I am so glad that word made a comeback.

Beyond that, wow does LC ever have a bee in his bonnet about this. Since he's apparently unwilling to engage in a real dialogue about it I find I'm similarly unwilling to post my own views, aside from mentioning that representation doesn't equal recommendation, something he'd realize if he was willing to calm down from frothing rage for even a second.

Gee thanks, kurokami. Now all I can think of is a frothing fuckwaffle hitting the table.

 

[MSTarot]

I said I wasn't going to get into this debate, but given that a writer who's work I enjoy seems to be this passionate about this maybe I should.

The first thing I will say is I'm neither with you nor against you in this debate. I am an Erotica Writer. Maybe a piss poor one, but it's what i do, and hope to one day do even better.

Will I write stories that as you have stated 'glorify' rape? No. Will i use rape in stories to tell a scene? Yes and I'm not alone.

'The Accused' a movie that shows a woman being repeatedly raped in a bar while a crowd cheers it on.

'I'll Spit on Your Grave' they made a new version of this one recently. basically a girl is raped by a group of people.

"Last house on the Left.' one of the most graphic rape scenes I have ever seen in any movie.

'Deliverance' anyone hear banjo music?

I'm sure there are dozens of others that are just as graphic. In most of them it's become the norm for the girl (or Ned Beattey) to get revenge on her (or his) rapist before the end of the movie. By doing that the director has made it okay for the audience to watch this brutal act.

How about S.V.U. (special victim's unit) Ninety percent of the show is about rape.

It's often mentioned that when a woman would face her accuser on the stand his lawyer would try to make it seem like she was asking for it. Like that it happened was her fault in someway.

We have made Rape a part of our mainstream media. So long as justice prevails!

We write.

We are writers of erotica.

We write to titillate. To encourage the sexual part of our reader to awaken. To place themselves into the scene.

A lot of us, knowing this, write about someone being taken against their will.

I think this says a lot about us as a species.

Will i write non consent? Yes. Will justice always prevail in my stories like it does for Hollywood? Maybe. It will depend on the story.

Will I apologize for what I write? No. Not even the words I spell wrong.



Incest.

A lot of people have stated that incest is just as brutal a crime. I don't think we are talking about incest then. For the most part we are then discussing the molestation of underage children by a member of their family.

If I in my forties went to my Mom and talked her into having sex with me that (outside of being a miracle) would be incest. IF I took advantage of the hero worship some of my younger kin feel for an adult who will pay them attention... I would not be committing incest. That would not be the charge I would be arrested for.

Lovecraft, I love your work.Your a talented story teller. Others on here would bash you for writing incest and bondage stories. While you are deploring them for writing non-con. Rape.

To one extent or another I think both are right, with each having a valid argument. At the same time both are wrong.

We are writers. We write about what turns people on. Some of the things that turn people on are truly disturbing.

we all have our kinks, our fetishes, or the dirty little thing we in the darker part of ourselves might want to do. We wont talk about them. To anyone.

But we will write about them.

It's how a lot of us get through the day without ending up in a padded room.


Damn and that was without a single drop of rum.

M.S.Tarot

 

[Kurokami]

Gee thanks, kurokami. Now all I can think of is a frothing fuckwaffle hitting the table.

Yep, and now I am too. With a sort of wet thump.