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Looks to me like it can't decide whether it's manga or Dread. Too heavy with the political, not enough instant judgement.

In the end (just going by my own kids) comic book readers know that they are reading comic books, because the world that they live in doesn't match up with anything that's been drawn and if it did then it wouldn't be escapism and wouldn't be worth reading.
 
Aurora Black said:
That is so wrong.


Not really. I've done a couple of papers on propaganda from World war II. the racist overtone in the majority is about par for the course. Soviet propaganda was designed to instill hate of all germans. German propaganda was designed to dehumanize slavs. The brits tended to concentrate more on lampooning the Nazi leadership. The american effforts tended to be more aimed at inspiring the tropps. In the ETo the American efforts, with some exception, was pretty clean.

Not so in the PTO. It was viciously, conciously racist. in fairness, the japanese were even more racist, and their efforts were, in general more crude. Americans were portrayed as white devils, usually with fangs and misshapen bodies. In our propaganda japanese were portrayed with glasses, buck teeth and a generally simian apearance.

When you examine these war time efforts, it's imperative that you remember the contemporary mindset in and for which they were produced. All propaganda, to some degree, attempts to dehumanize the foe. In America at the time and japan, the easiest way to do this was via the race differences. It played to the feelings in general of the populaces.

You have to realize too, that this was a war between two powers that shouldn't have gone to war in the first place. They both feared communist agression in Asia. The soviet Union was the natural foe for both. They both were agressive trade nations who favored gernarally similar trade policies. The japanese navy was modled on the Royal navy to such an extent that a lock of nelson's hair was enshrined at etta jima (thier naval college) and one meal every day in the fleet was taken in the anglo mode, complete with forks and tea.

Japan felt America had "forced" her into war, which is, in retrospect, uncomfortably close to the truth. to Americans, the japanese had perpetrated "an unprevoked and dasdardly attack" upon us. So there was plenty of nationalistic hate to be layered over the racicial hate. After Bataan, when word of the unspeakable barbarity the japanese perpetrated on honorablly surrendered soldiers got out, it wasn't even difficult to cast them as not human. The Japanese, by their actions, made the job of american propagandists easy.

In sum, I don't believe much came out from either side in the PTO that didn't have some racist overtones, and the majority, played heavily on the theme.
 
Colleen Thomas said:
Not really. I've done a couple of papers on propaganda from World war II. the racist overtone in the majority is about par for the course. Soviet propaganda was designed to instill hate of all germans. German propaganda was designed to dehumanize slavs. The brits tended to concentrate more on lampooning the Nazi leadership. The american effforts tended to be more aimed at inspiring the tropps. In the ETo the American efforts, with some exception, was pretty clean.

Not so in the PTO. It was viciously, conciously racist. in fairness, the japanese were even more racist, and their efforts were, in general more crude. Americans were portrayed as white devils, usually with fangs and misshapen bodies. In our propaganda japanese were portrayed with glasses, buck teeth and a generally simian apearance.

When you examine these war time efforts, it's imperative that you remember the contemporary mindset in and for which they were produced. All propaganda, to some degree, attempts to dehumanize the foe. In America at the time and japan, the easiest way to do this was via the race differences. It played to the feelings in general of the populaces.

You have to realize too, that this was a war between two powers that shouldn't have gone to war in the first place. They both feared communist agression in Asia. The soviet Union was the natural foe for both. They both were agressive trade nations who favored gernarally similar trade policies. The japanese navy was modled on the Royal navy to such an extent that a lock of nelson's hair was enshrined at etta jima (thier naval college) and one meal every day in the fleet was taken in the anglo mode, complete with forks and tea.

Japan felt America had "forced" her into war, which is, in retrospect, uncomfortably close to the truth. to Americans, the japanese had perpetrated "an unprevoked and dasdardly attack" upon us. So there was plenty of nationalistic hate to be layered over the racicial hate. After Bataan, when word of the unspeakable barbarity the japanese perpetrated on honorablly surrendered soldiers got out, it wasn't even difficult to cast them as not human. The Japanese, by their actions, made the job of american propagandists easy.

In sum, I don't believe much came out from either side in the PTO that didn't have some racist overtones, and the majority, played heavily on the theme.

You're very convincing, Colly. Now I'm embarrassed to ask what PTO is. :eek:
 
Aurora Black said:
You're very convincing, Colly. Now I'm embarrassed to ask what PTO is. :eek:


Sorry, Historian short hand :)

ETO: European theatre of operations
PTO: Pcaific theatre of Operations

ETA: the PTO is often Broken up into smaller units because the area was so large so you get other monikers like the CBI (China/Burma/India) or SEP (Southeastern Pacific)
 
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Colleen Thomas said:
Sorry, Historian short hand :)

ETO: European theatre of operations
PTO: Pcaific theatre of Operations

ETA: the PTO is often Broken up into smaller units because the area was so large so you get other monikers like the CBI (China/Burma/India) or SEP (Southeastern Pacific)

Okay, thanks. :)
 
The person who created this comic is an addict. A hatred addict. Drawing it fed his habit.

Now he's pushing it to feed other addicts. And to create more.

People get bent out of shape about crack addicts. The haters are worse. And hatred is often a socially acceptable addiction.
 
P-U.

The sad part is that a lot of guys are gonna buy it and grin at each other "hey man, this dude tells it like it IS!" Atleast I know a few guys who will. They think that anyone who says something out of the ordinary, be it stupid, inaccurate or plain insulting, is One Cool Dude. :rolleyes:
 
minsue said:
Amicus writes comics? :confused:

*giggle*

I may not have been here long, but I know who amicus is, oh yes... and for everything that is sacred, let's hope amicus IS the author of this crap, because if he isn't, it means that there are MORE like him out there! :eek:
 
TheEarl said:
http://accstudios.com/

Any comment on this would be superfluous.

The Earl
well, that is... different. I will give them kudos for guts and determination... even an interesting topic (if one I have no interest in reading). Being a published comic book author myself (under a different name), I have to give them a thumbs up for daring!
And their tag line for the whole company's vision is "entertaining and offending the comic community"... I'd say they're doing both with this one!
 
I'm wondering, is it satire? ANd maybe the authors are sitting back and laughing at anyone who takes it seriously, because nobody else gets the joke?

I'm all for satire, the more outrageous the better. The more you make fun of a thing the less power you give it. Taking something seriously gives it significance.

(But then again, I'm forever laughing at things that nobody else gets.)
 
Helmets on Kamikaze and Superman -

So they could be recognised as being on the *right* side.

Og
 
Tom Collins said:
Dude...do you actually not believe that propaganda in comics doesn't work?
Check this...Super Propaganda

FYI...As far as I've been able to discover, Superman was developed stricly for the purpose of bolstering the flagging American spirt durring WWI...could be wrong...might have been WWII...and believe me when I tall you that it worked like a fuckin' charm. :cool:

Actually, Superman dates to 1933 so his origins would not be related to either world war. I don't know why he would be wearing a helmet, since he is totally out of uniform otherwise.

What I find most offensive about these comic books is that a 52 page version sold for ten cents and the 96 page book sold for 15 cents. They would be less than half the size now and sell for about twenty times as much.
 
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