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[TheEarl]

http://accstudios.com/

Any comment on this would be superfluous.

The Earl

 

[Guest]

http://accstudios.com/

Any comment on this would be superfluous.

The Earl

Except - wanna get drubnk?

 

[impressive]

Except - wanna get drubnk?

... and awkard?

 

[Guest]

... and awkard?

LMAO!

Just spit cherry coke all over the screen.

Damn it, imp!!!!!

 

[rgraham666]

I thought the jerkoff that wrote The Turner Diaries died.

Sigh. But his paranoia lives on.

 

[SlickTony]

I figured it was a joke.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Nope, not a joke.
But comic books is about the right place for the neo-con movement. Bright colors, simplified plots.

 

[Guest]

Nope, not a joke.
But comic books is about the right place for the neo-con movement. Bright colors, simplified plots.

 

[Colleen Thomas]

I'll take Sergant rock and Wierd war tales thanks.

I like my comic books to have at least some realism

 

[Lucifer_Carroll]

I'll stick with DC Vertigo comics myself. Watchmen, V for Vendetta, Sandman, Transmetropolitan, Preacher, Y: The Last Man, Lucifer.

I like plot and well-written stories. So sue me.

 

[rgraham666]

Watchmen rocked!

 

[Liar]

Ok...if that is not satire, the writer needs to be have a nightly visit by the Battering ram of Reality until he realize how silly it appears.

 

[Colleen Thomas]

Ok...if that is not satire, the writer needs to be have a nightly visit by the Battering ram of Reality until he realize how silly it appears.

I disagree there. I tisn't aimed at you. It's aimed at a segment of the population that is thought to be vulnerable to the message. The medium chosen is reflective of the audience aimed at.

If you're target audience was lesbians, you wouldn't hire a male spokesman would you? If your target was the 65 to 80 age group, you would probably use radio or TV, rather than internet promotion.

Propaganda is tailored. Not just in the mesage, but in the presentation of the message. I fyou want to get young, adolsescent males, you go with a comic book or video game. Maybe a website with a free game you can play on it.

If you are judgeing it as childish entertainment, then yes, it does seem silly. But to judge it as such is making a fundamental mistake. It's not childish nor meant fo rentertainment. it's nothing short of political indoctrination material.

When the US army found that GI's weren't cleaning their M-16's regularly enough, they issued a manual for doing so. But rather than a regular, non descript military phamplet, they comissioned a comic book artist who drew a fairly voluptuous girl character. To a woman, with a fiarly rational mind, it seems rediculous, but to an 18 year old kid, who dosen't like to read, it was worth it just to view T&A in the war zone. And Gi's started cleaning their rifles.

 

[Liar]

I disagree there. I tisn't aimed at you. It's aimed at a segment of the population that is thought to be vulnerable to the message. The medium chosen is reflective of the audience aimed at.

Not talking about the medium, but about the shaping of the message. It's a hyperbole that has HYPERBOLE written in ten feet, red, blinking letters on the cover and on every page. If it was meant for serious indoctrination of comic reading youths, wouldn't it be wiser to be a little more subtle? Won't kids just pick it up, and go "Uh, dude, this got like, shitloads of politics and stuff in it. Where's my PSP?"

 

[Colleen Thomas]

Not talking about the medium, but about the shaping of the message. It's a hyperbole that has HYPERBOLE written in ten feet, red, blinking letters on the cover and on every page. If it was meant for serious indoctrination of comic reading youths, wouldn't it be wiser to be a little more subtle? Won't kids just pick it up, and go "Uh, dude, this got like, shitloads of politics and stuff in it. Where's my PSP?"

You're making an adult evaluation Liar. Young minds aren't so fully developed. Take a look at some of th eHitler Yourth stuff, particularly the speeches by Con Shirach. It's about as seductive as a razor tipped dildo to a discerning mind, but it worked great with kids. Mostly because it's got a simple, easy to grasp and unequivocal dyamic.

You're aking little bobby to make n informed evaluation, he's just looking for something with cool pictures, neato weapons and a lot of bad guy splatting.

 

[Liar]

You're making an adult evaluation Liar. Young minds aren't so fully developed. Take a look at some of th eHitler Yourth stuff, particularly the speeches by Con Shirach. It's about as seductive as a razor tipped dildo to a discerning mind, but it worked great with kids. Mostly because it's got a simple, easy to grasp and unequivocal dyamic.

You're aking little bobby to make n informed evaluation, he's just looking for something with cool pictures, neato weapons and a lot of bad guy splatting.

Actuaklly, I'm not.

I'm trying to think how little Bobby would react when he gets this, which is bad guy splatting mixed with a lot of political mumbo jumbo, it seems. He can choose that, or regular bad guy splatting without all that confusing, not to meantion boring stuff that he hear grown-ups talk about all the time.

My favourite comins when I was a little Billy was villain splatting in space. There were a whole lot of ideological propaganda in those too, but it was uch less obvious than this.

 

[Colleen Thomas]

Actuaklly, I'm not.

I'm trying to think how little Bobby would react when he gets this, which is bad guy splatting mixed with a lot of political mumbo jumbo, it seems. He can choose that, or regular bad guy splatting without all that confusing, not to meantion boring stuff that he hear grown-ups talk about all the time.

Perhaps you're right. What do I know about young male minds.

 

[Liar]

Perhaps you're right. What do I know about young male minds.

Hey, young male minds don't know shit about shit as it is.

And I consider myself fairly young.

 

[Colleen Thomas]

Hey, young male minds don't know shit about shit as it is.

And I consider myself fairly young.

I've no grasp on male minds period. Youg old or in between.

 

[Lucifer_Carroll]

I disagree. I doubt this is actually targeting little Bobby. Though it may in the same way that books like "There's a Liberal Under my Bed" seek to brainwash the young.

It's actual target is likely conservative adults who remember reading comic books as a kid or who are sick of the often liberal and plot-intensive comic books that come out today and want something that speaks of their values and FOX News beliefs and is also fresher than Superman, Batman, and Fantastic Four. They are also targeting conservatives who have seen this slade of comic book movies coming out and thought I should check that out or I should go back and read some of that and want something fresh, but also in-line with their worldview.

Unfortunately their sales suck, probably because purchase of said comic book would entail purchase of a book, albeit one with pictures and who has time for that when one has TV. Besides, the kid would make fun of you for reading a comic book, because that's kid stuff.

 

[Quiet_Cool]

You're making an adult evaluation Liar. Young minds aren't so fully developed. Take a look at some of th eHitler Yourth stuff, particularly the speeches by Con Shirach. It's about as seductive as a razor tipped dildo to a discerning mind, but it worked great with kids. Mostly because it's got a simple, easy to grasp and unequivocal dyamic.

You're aking little bobby to make n informed evaluation, he's just looking for something with cool pictures, neato weapons and a lot of bad guy splatting.

Actually, I think Colleen has a good point here. The truth is, however, given the medium, those that read this will still be focused on the bad guy splatting, not necessarily on the conservative message behind it. It's easy for us to look at this and judge, but the children aren't looking to judge, nor are they looking for the message or for political direction. They're reading for the splatting. I grew up with Star Wars. I loved Star Wars. I still love Star Wars. It's never affected my viewpoint of the world around me. I don't believe this will either.

The kids who read this aren't going to research who Gore is, or why he's being noted in the book. They'll read past it for the blood and violence. When they're old enough to start looking for true political guidance, comic books won't provide that, and they'll most likely be able to see that.

More over, with parents in place who are capable of raising them, this wouldn't be an issue for any of us.

Q_C

 

[Evil Alpaca]

As long as they don't show Cheney in Batman tights with Bush as his boy wonder . . .

 

[Tom Collins]

*said in a highish, voice* No one expects Propaganda…their main weapon is Propaganda…evil \Propaganda…sick, evil Propaganda…Damn!! Trying again…two adjectives for their primary weapon are sick, twisted, EVIL Propaganda!! OK…that’s three adjectives. I’ll come back in…

 

[Tom Collins]

Not talking about the medium, but about the shaping of the message. It's a hyperbole that has HYPERBOLE written in ten feet, red, blinking letters on the cover and on every page. If it was meant for serious indoctrination of comic reading youths, wouldn't it be wiser to be a little more subtle? Won't kids just pick it up, and go "Uh, dude, this got like, shitloads of politics and stuff in it. Where's my PSP?"

Dude...do you actually not believe that propaganda in comics doesn't work?
Check this...Super Propaganda

FYI...As far as I've been able to discover, Superman was developed stricly for the purpose of bolstering the flagging American spirt durring WWI...could be wrong...might have been WWII...and believe me when I tall you that it worked like a fuckin' charm.

 

[Tom Collins]

More over, with parents in place who are capable of raising them, this wouldn't be an issue for any of us.

Q_C

Aye...there's the rub, Q_C.